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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 09:43 PM
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47. OK read here so we discuss facts,2144,1894686,00.htm...

So it shows that those laws if they still exist are not applied

exactly the same than in the US

In the United States, the First Amendment guarantees a relatively unlimited right of free speech, although some US states still have blasphemy laws on the books. Chapter 272 of the Massachusetts General Laws states, for example:

Section 36. Whoever wilfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, his creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior.

However, the US Supreme Court in Joseph Burstyn, Inc v Wilson 1952 held that the New York State blasphemy law was an unconstitutional prior restraint on freedom of speech. The court stated that "It is not the business of government in our nation to suppress real or imagined attacks upon a particular religious doctrine, whether they appear in publications, speeches or motion pictures."

But I know that the Muslim fundies want a blasphemy crime written in the Norwegian constitution.


"But the Europeans don't follow our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Shocking, I know."

OK take it easy, even if you are ironic

our Constitutions can be far more elaborated than yours because they have been rewritten those last 220 years (and not by judges, God beware). Most of them incorporate the UN declaration of human rights, which the US doesn't. Compare for example the European RIGHT TO PRIVACY with the "penumbra" of the US constitution...

Have you ever tried to read them ?

Holocaust denial is hate speech. What's wrong in prohibiting hate speech ? OOh I know it's far more important to prohibit the 3 s appearance of a covered nipple at the SuperBowl...

Breasts are evil... but denying the Jews their recent memory is OK ? When every one knows that THIS is used as the recent base of antisemitism...

Please, no lessons, if they were any intended, please
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  -Danish Cartoonist Editor is a big Neocon !! AntiFascist  Feb-09-06 05:56 PM   #0 
  - You don't say...  redqueen   Feb-09-06 05:57 PM   #1 
  - he also refused to run cartoons depicting Christianity even though he  cryingshame   Feb-09-06 09:19 PM   #40 
  - Too bad Fleming Rose isn't one of the cartoonists. nt  greyl   Feb-09-06 06:13 PM   #2 
  - and another thing, the Americans upset about the cartoons  greyl   Feb-09-06 06:23 PM   #3 
  - Freedom of the press is one thing....  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 06:38 PM   #7 
  - Freedom of the press is one thing, whined G.W.Bush,  greyl   Feb-09-06 06:56 PM   #13 
  - the issue is who benefits from running up this story....  pretzel4gore   Feb-09-06 06:41 PM   #8 
  - You do know that Danish law makes blasphemy a crime?  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 07:00 PM   #15 
     - OK read here so we discuss facts  tocqueville   Feb-09-06 09:43 PM   #47 
        - Depicting all Muslims as terrorists, as several of those cartoons did  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 09:50 PM   #48 
  - The article says he is the editor who commissioned the cartoonists. nt  glitch   Feb-09-06 06:26 PM   #4 
     - Yeah, I know who he is. The title of the OP isn't true. nt  greyl   Feb-09-06 06:36 PM   #5 
     - It is now n/t  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 06:45 PM   #10 
     - "Commission" is an ok word;  igil   Feb-09-06 06:52 PM   #11 
  - your source is "antizionist", says it all, QUOTE IT ALL  tocqueville   Feb-09-06 06:38 PM   #6 
  - Well that just makes them big socialists then, doesn't it?  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 06:44 PM   #9 
  - Here are the guy's thoughts on mossad  jim3775   Feb-09-06 07:00 PM   #14 
  - The source of your story is nuts  jim3775   Feb-09-06 06:52 PM   #12 
  - Well it didn't take much to "inflame" certain DUers, did it?  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 07:02 PM   #17 
  - See above  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 07:05 PM   #18 
  - I am not disputing the allegation directly, others are doing that  jim3775   Feb-09-06 07:07 PM   #19 
  - Maybe so, but I really don't want to start a gigantic sub-thread..  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 07:18 PM   #23 
  - guilty by association?  tocqueville   Feb-09-06 07:25 PM   #24 
     - You are absolutely wrong about the paper, and here are two sources  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 07:41 PM   #25 
     - yep but even a fucking "liberal" in Europe...  tocqueville   Feb-09-06 08:15 PM   #26 
        - Obviously caricatures of Jesus are not so acceptable  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 08:30 PM   #30 
        - The French Revolution was anticlerical  tocqueville   Feb-09-06 09:03 PM   #37 
           - Okay, yeah, that makes a bit more sense, thanks  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 09:22 PM   #41 
        - The paper is NEO-Liberal which means NOT REGULATING CORPORATIONS  cryingshame   Feb-09-06 09:25 PM   #43 
     - A HA ! a French neocon....  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 08:19 PM   #28 
     - Pipes is a neocon yes and he has an agenda...  tocqueville   Feb-09-06 08:42 PM   #33 
        - I don't give a rat's ass what Daniel Pipes thinks about anything  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 08:49 PM   #34 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-09-06 09:18 PM   #39 
              - Well perhaps you should know that  Ms. Clio   Feb-09-06 09:29 PM   #45 
     - It isn't "Liberal" as we use the term in the US. It is NEO-Liberal which  cryingshame   Feb-09-06 09:23 PM   #42 
  - and Christopher Bollyn is a bloody anti-semitic nazi who writes for the  Monkey see Monkey Do   Feb-09-06 08:20 PM   #29 
  - An interview doesn't equal "clear ties" as implied.  greyl   Feb-09-06 07:01 PM   #16 
  - The much more "clear tie" is the article that was penned.....  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 07:09 PM   #20 
     - That would be the author's responsibility to check,  igil   Feb-09-06 07:14 PM   #22 
  - I would agree that the worst of militant Islam is  igil   Feb-09-06 07:11 PM   #21 
  - "the fascism that would result from militant Islam makes Soviet communism  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 08:58 PM   #36 
  - I wouldn't at all be surprised if a big scoundrel like Pipes  entanglement   Feb-09-06 08:18 PM   #27 
  - Here's a better source to support your point  Domitan   Feb-09-06 08:35 PM   #31 
  - So they're doing this on purpose perhaps?  FreedomAngel82   Feb-09-06 08:36 PM   #32 
  - Seems Bahrain and Iran agree...  Behind the Aegis   Feb-09-06 08:56 PM   #35 
  - I don't agree with the anti-Zionist position that Israel should be...  AntiFascist   Feb-09-06 09:08 PM   #38 
  - It seems Bahrain and Iran have a point  cryingshame   Feb-09-06 09:28 PM   #44 
  - Bollyn and Nimmo are both notorious nazi filth.  Jim Sagle   Feb-09-06 09:38 PM   #46 
  - Locking.  pinto   Feb-09-06 09:51 PM   #49 

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