| 135. not true, not true at all- |
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and we 'got' here because you are making the claim that passengers on planes should pay by weight- And one poster said their 2 kids would fit into one seat- FYI- Johns Hopkins doesn't want carseats made manditory on flights, because they are afraid that parents would rather not have to pay for a seat for thier child, and thus would travel by car instead, increasing their chance of dying in an accident- I kid you NOT- Here is what the FAA recomends- It is most definately NOT safer in an airplane for a child to be 'held'. Why use your child’s car seat in flight? * A child riding on your lap could be torn from your arms in a crash or even in rough air! * “Clear air turbulence” (rough air or a sudden drop) can happen without warning. Most car seats (child safety seats) are tested to hold a child securely if this happens. * The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends car seat use in aircraft by all children up to 40 pounds. * Your child is likely to behave better on the trip if he or she is riding in a familiar, comfortable car seat. * You will enjoy the trip more without a restless baby in your lap. * The car seat will be ready for use at the end of the trip. * You don't need to worry about loss or damage that could happen if the car seat is sent as checked baggage. You and your baby deserve the best possible protection! The Federal Aviation Adminstration (FAA) recommends that all passengers fly buckled up at all times. http://www.saferidenews.com/html/Airplane_Eng.htm
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| -Is this harmful? Justified? Why should I defend this? |
neverevergivein |
Feb-08-06 01:14 PM |
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Or it might be because she's so large |
Mythsaje |
Feb-08-06 01:18 PM |
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Name removed |
Feb-08-06 01:21 PM |
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Sorry, but why should I pay full price |
Mythsaje |
Feb-08-06 01:26 PM |
#9 |
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you know i am small enough, when i sit next to a really large person |
seabeyond |
Feb-08-06 01:29 PM |
#13 |
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Must be nice |
Mythsaje |
Feb-08-06 01:31 PM |
#16 |
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I'm strictly average size, but find it distincctly uncomfortable to be |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 01:34 PM |
#20 |
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ya, you are probably that guy that insists on having body totally |
seabeyond |
Feb-08-06 01:41 PM |
#23 |
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Actually |
Mythsaje |
Feb-08-06 01:56 PM |
#29 |
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well i am with you on that. nothing about flying or cramped spaces |
seabeyond |
Feb-08-06 02:00 PM |
#32 |
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I've only been on a plane twice as an adult |
Mythsaje |
Feb-08-06 02:08 PM |
#36 |
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that is funny. i hate it too. i am hoping i ma on the no fly list. |
seabeyond |
Feb-08-06 02:36 PM |
#51 |
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LOL! |
Swamp Rat |
Feb-08-06 02:56 PM |
#68 |
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So is it your opinion that the airline should be held responsible for |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 01:27 PM |
#10 |
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when i had babies, my family always got the front bench seats |
seabeyond |
Feb-08-06 01:56 PM |
#28 |
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Yes, but would you raise hell and want to sue the airlines if they |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:06 PM |
#34 |
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On that line of reasoning, why shouldn't my three year old |
madinmaryland |
Feb-08-06 02:23 PM |
#43 |
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In a perfect world, perhaps, but in this world, she takes up a seat, |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:32 PM |
#48 |
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Because they sell seats by the whole seat unit |
petronius |
Feb-08-06 02:36 PM |
#52 |
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Well, then, two kids can fit nicely in |
FlaGranny |
Feb-09-06 10:06 AM |
#157 |
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That would be fine with me... |
petronius |
Feb-09-06 01:05 PM |
#171 |
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problem solved. put all the fat people next to the children. |
seabeyond |
Feb-08-06 02:38 PM |
#54 |
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Ding, ding, ding! |
madinmaryland |
Feb-08-06 02:54 PM |
#67 |
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It is my understanding that many/some airlines offer reduced fares |
Dora |
Feb-08-06 03:57 PM |
#111 |
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Do they not do that on airlines in the States? |
tenshi816 |
Feb-09-06 01:44 PM |
#172 |
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do you mean "charge by the pound"? |
cry baby |
Feb-08-06 02:37 PM |
#53 |
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Once again, it's quite simple. If you can't fit in the seat, you pay for |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:45 PM |
#59 |
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How about if someone crowds you a little under the armrest |
cry baby |
Feb-08-06 03:02 PM |
#77 |
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Sorry, but requiring people to pay for the seats the occupy is NOT cruel |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:06 PM |
#82 |
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That creates such a out of proportion picture with you squished |
cry baby |
Feb-08-06 03:16 PM |
#92 |
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Only if that person is coming into my apartment, then hell yeah |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:19 PM |
#96 |
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Excellent post! |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-08-06 03:07 PM |
#84 |
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I think the kindhearted liberals here at DU have exhausted all ways to |
Beausoir |
Feb-08-06 11:51 PM |
#138 |
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Except for the fact that nobody here has ridiculed or ostracized anyone, |
ET Awful |
Feb-09-06 07:36 AM |
#141 |
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Wow. You have an awful lot of knowledge about people. |
Beausoir |
Feb-09-06 11:12 PM |
#179 |
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Considering how much I helped the guy when he was installing |
ET Awful |
Feb-10-06 05:16 AM |
#180 |
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How About Only One Bag of Peanuts? |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 08:43 AM |
#146 |
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Fine With Me |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 08:38 AM |
#145 |
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Why can't petite people like me pay half price? That would RULE! |
Vektor |
Feb-08-06 06:55 PM |
#125 |
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You Got That Right - And Cheap People With Their Kids On Their Lap, Too |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 08:25 AM |
#144 |
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Agreed. Also, whether someone is in the seat next to them is irrelevant |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 01:24 PM |
#8 |
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You lost me with that one - if the next seat is unoccupied |
KurtNYC |
Feb-09-06 02:10 PM |
#174 |
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Did you even read the article? She flies Southwest often and has never... |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-08-06 01:28 PM |
#11 |
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I agree with the consistency part of it. |
Mythsaje |
Feb-08-06 01:30 PM |
#15 |
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She brought the suit because... |
zanne |
Feb-08-06 01:18 PM |
#2 |
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Thank you |
wryter2000 |
Feb-08-06 01:19 PM |
#4 |
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I'm a big person, I've never been asked to buy two seats, but |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 01:32 PM |
#17 |
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NBA and NFL players fly first class, thus they have wider seats |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 01:35 PM |
#21 |
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there are people of similar size that are not athletes, however...my point |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 01:44 PM |
#25 |
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Because, your car is designed to fit only a few people, and is |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 01:51 PM |
#27 |
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My wife is a former flight attendant. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 01:57 PM |
#30 |
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What does employment of your wife have to do with policy regarding |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:04 PM |
#33 |
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you're not listening. You used weight/viability of flight argument |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 02:13 PM |
#38 |
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Weight is the easiest measure to use. They aren't going to sit there |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:15 PM |
#40 |
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really? did they have this woman stand on a scale? |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 02:17 PM |
#42 |
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I'm not sure why you think someone who takes up two seats should |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:31 PM |
#47 |
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I'm not sure why you keep shifting the argument |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 02:38 PM |
#55 |
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Your entire premise that someone who takes up more than one seat |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:43 PM |
#58 |
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the penalization I'm referring to is restricted space. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 02:57 PM |
#69 |
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How is building a seat to fit an average size disciminatory? |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:59 PM |
#73 |
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Is the Echo the only car available? |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:07 PM |
#83 |
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Ah yes, but ALL of those cars you pay more for do you not? |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:08 PM |
#87 |
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LOL! do you ever even bother to understand the other person's points? |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:16 PM |
#93 |
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Nonsense. |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:23 PM |
#101 |
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LOL! well, we've obviously taken this as far as your attention span |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:27 PM |
#102 |
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He's got you there |
breakfastofchampions |
Feb-08-06 06:17 PM |
#121 |
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Actually, the truck will rarely cost less these days. |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 07:28 PM |
#130 |
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Where Are You Finding A Full Size Truck As Cheap As An Echo? |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 09:24 AM |
#153 |
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So Do All Those Cars Cost the Same? No Bigger Ones Cost More |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 09:03 AM |
#148 |
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Have You Noticed That Obesity Is A Growing Problem In the US? |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 09:20 AM |
#151 |
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Cape Air Weighs Their Passengers On Small Planes & Assigns Seat According |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 09:08 AM |
#150 |
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Actually, weight matters, even on a big jet. |
Tesha |
Feb-08-06 02:57 PM |
#70 |
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Bingo. n/t |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:00 PM |
#74 |
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And your experience in the airline industry is? |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:10 PM |
#89 |
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And your experience as a licensed pilot is? (NT) |
Tesha |
Feb-08-06 04:55 PM |
#117 |
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If you will sit down and actually THINK about what Lerkfish |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 02:42 PM |
#56 |
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Mmmmhmmm. . . sorry, if you are squishing me out of my seat, then |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:48 PM |
#60 |
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If my son only occupies |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 03:01 PM |
#76 |
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Ah, but if your son is squriming around, and leaning into other seats |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:03 PM |
#79 |
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no, |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 03:19 PM |
#98 |
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True, you're proving that right now. n/t |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:20 PM |
#99 |
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ayuh.... ;^) it's always "them"- |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 03:55 PM |
#110 |
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compassionate liberalism? don't think so. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:04 PM |
#80 |
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Ah, so now you're putting words in my mouth. Well done. |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:07 PM |
#85 |
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can you not even remember what you say? |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:21 PM |
#100 |
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Ah, but NOWHERE does that say they are not allowed to fly |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:37 PM |
#104 |
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I'll let you get the last dig in. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:52 PM |
#107 |
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thank you. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 02:58 PM |
#71 |
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hey- Thank YOU- my |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 03:08 PM |
#86 |
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She eventually got out of the business. It was unhealthy for her |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 03:18 PM |
#95 |
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glad to hear |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 03:50 PM |
#106 |
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Its a shame that telling the truth should be "courageous". |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 04:11 PM |
#113 |
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and a voice- you're willing to use without fear of intimidation!! n/t |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 04:49 PM |
#116 |
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Hmmm- Diet Pills and Starving Will Only Shut Your Metabolism Down Further |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 10:32 AM |
#161 |
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So You Would Be Willing To Trade Seats with Me If I am Seated Next to A |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 09:51 AM |
#156 |
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Here's Something Else That Sucks - Paying To Fly & Having Someone Squeeze |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 08:57 AM |
#147 |
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You are the size you are |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-09-06 10:48 AM |
#164 |
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Good Post |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 11:12 AM |
#168 |
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Personally, the race card may not really apply. Most airlines require |
formerrepuke |
Feb-08-06 01:19 PM |
#3 |
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It's been known for awhile now that Southwest makes |
woodsprite |
Feb-08-06 01:20 PM |
#5 |
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So Actually She Had Been Lucky So Far Because They Should Have Been... |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 09:32 AM |
#154 |
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Southwest enforces their "customer of size" policy haphazardly |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-08-06 01:23 PM |
#7 |
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and as a result of this lawsuit I forsee them coming up with a way to |
bleedingheart |
Feb-08-06 03:29 PM |
#103 |
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Last year when flying to Miami |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-08-06 01:28 PM |
#12 |
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You make a very good point Midlodemocrat |
Yupster |
Feb-08-06 01:33 PM |
#19 |
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a few years ago my boss decided to take a few of us on a road trip |
bleedingheart |
Feb-08-06 03:09 PM |
#88 |
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I think most people here agree with the airlines policy |
neverevergivein |
Feb-08-06 01:30 PM |
#14 |
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Why are you feeling defensive? |
yardwork |
Feb-08-06 01:36 PM |
#22 |
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well, I for one don't agree with it. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-08-06 01:45 PM |
#26 |
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Maybe they should charge by the pound and adjust the seats to fit. |
ToolTex |
Feb-08-06 01:33 PM |
#18 |
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I don't see that this is a left/right issue. |
Yollam |
Feb-08-06 01:42 PM |
#24 |
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Their policy is due to passenger weight. Nothing to do with race. |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Feb-08-06 01:58 PM |
#31 |
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So, then, why don't the airlines charge less for a child? |
Boredtodeath |
Feb-08-06 02:11 PM |
#37 |
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Because your 10 year-old takes up a single seat. No more. |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:14 PM |
#39 |
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I can put my 3 and 5 yr old in one seat, but i still |
madinmaryland |
Feb-08-06 02:29 PM |
#45 |
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Now you're getting into safety regulations. Airline regulations only |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:30 PM |
#46 |
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Oh, yeah, ever see what an infant held by an adult |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 03:40 PM |
#105 |
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We aren't talking about cars here are we? I could have sworn we |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 06:07 PM |
#120 |
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because there are none, do you |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 07:44 PM |
#131 |
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Wait a second here. . . . how did we go from discussing how airline |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 07:55 PM |
#133 |
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not true, not true at all- |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 09:00 PM |
#135 |
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Then a parent might want to purchase a seat for thier infant? |
breakfastofchampions |
Feb-09-06 12:30 AM |
#139 |
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I stand corrected, I was citing regulations as of the time when I was |
ET Awful |
Feb-09-06 05:04 AM |
#140 |
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You are so right about that. |
tenshi816 |
Feb-09-06 02:06 PM |
#173 |
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Don't Take This Wrong,But Does Your 10 Year Old Sit Still or Wiggle Around |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 10:41 AM |
#162 |
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If it is strictly a weight issue why don't they |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 02:50 PM |
#62 |
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It's not a weight issue, but a SIZE issue. |
Ignis |
Feb-08-06 03:53 PM |
#109 |
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I'm afraid you |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 04:20 PM |
#114 |
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Lovely argument, but I fear not to the same issue. |
Ignis |
Feb-09-06 11:57 AM |
#170 |
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Another incentive to stay on a diet. |
MathGuy |
Feb-08-06 02:07 PM |
#35 |
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People who are assholes and hog the arm rests on both sides |
nini |
Feb-08-06 02:17 PM |
#41 |
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Or men who sit with their legs sprawled out so I can't spread mine out |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-08-06 02:32 PM |
#49 |
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See, now the man who sits there with his legs spread, is in effect |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:49 PM |
#61 |
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Another Winner! People - Stay In Your Own Space - Stay Out of Mine |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 10:21 AM |
#160 |
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Whenever I'm next to someone |
tenshi816 |
Feb-09-06 02:12 PM |
#175 |
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Unfortunately for her she will probably loose... |
MadMaddie |
Feb-08-06 02:25 PM |
#44 |
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I hope you are wrong, but |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 02:54 PM |
#66 |
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Actually, many court decisions have ruled that morbid obesity... |
rucky |
Feb-08-06 03:03 PM |
#78 |
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It will get you out of jury duty... |
annabanana |
Feb-08-06 03:05 PM |
#81 |
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I don't like this practice by the airlines |
dogday |
Feb-08-06 02:36 PM |
#50 |
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Here's what the bastards should do: |
rucky |
Feb-08-06 02:42 PM |
#57 |
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I love that idea |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-08-06 02:51 PM |
#63 |
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Actually, the better solution would be to offer a discounted rate |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:53 PM |
#65 |
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And if the person sitting next to said passenger is flying in order to |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 02:51 PM |
#64 |
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Great Idea - I Would Be Satisfied with the Travel Voucher |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 10:56 AM |
#165 |
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What does this have to do with conservatism versus liberalism? |
bleedingheart |
Feb-08-06 02:59 PM |
#72 |
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So they can create arguments on DU, why else? |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:01 PM |
#75 |
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ever since I embarrassed my freeper coworkers |
bleedingheart |
Feb-08-06 03:10 PM |
#90 |
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Mine just cower and say "you should have been a politician instead |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:11 PM |
#91 |
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this whole thread is interesting because... |
bleedingheart |
Feb-08-06 03:18 PM |
#94 |
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Bingo and well said. n/t |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 03:19 PM |
#97 |
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who says you should be? c'mon there are more important things to be |
radio4progressives |
Feb-08-06 03:52 PM |
#108 |
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The skinny skank with greasy hair that reclines into my space needs to be |
Beausoir |
Feb-08-06 04:09 PM |
#112 |
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self delete- it's been a long day- |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-08-06 04:25 PM |
#115 |
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Wow, which airline has seats that recline far enough to infringe |
greyhound1966 |
Feb-08-06 05:02 PM |
#118 |
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I don't know if they're still in business or not, but "Tower Air" |
ET Awful |
Feb-08-06 06:04 PM |
#119 |
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Ewww, sounds horrible, glad I've never been subjected to that one. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Feb-08-06 07:08 PM |
#128 |
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Tower air -- Mmmmmmmm |
KurtNYC |
Feb-09-06 03:22 PM |
#177 |
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All of them |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-08-06 07:48 PM |
#132 |
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Admittedly I haven't flown much since 2000, but unless I was in business |
greyhound1966 |
Feb-09-06 09:21 AM |
#152 |
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Loads of them, |
tenshi816 |
Feb-09-06 02:23 PM |
#176 |
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nope |
Djinn |
Feb-08-06 08:11 PM |
#134 |
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Completely justified |
breakfastofchampions |
Feb-08-06 06:28 PM |
#122 |
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Welcome to DU, B.O.C.! |
Vektor |
Feb-08-06 06:58 PM |
#126 |
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IMO the woman is using the wrong defence. |
mwooldri |
Feb-08-06 06:38 PM |
#123 |
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That actually makes a lot more sense. |
Vektor |
Feb-08-06 06:59 PM |
#127 |
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They do have wider seats |
breakfastofchampions |
Feb-08-06 07:18 PM |
#129 |
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Yes they do. They also have all-business class airlines now. |
mwooldri |
Feb-08-06 10:27 PM |
#137 |
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What AN Idea - Biggie-Size An Airline! |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 11:02 AM |
#166 |
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This is a tough one, really. |
Vektor |
Feb-08-06 06:51 PM |
#124 |
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An inlaw of mine who is white... |
ljaycox |
Feb-08-06 10:05 PM |
#136 |
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I hate their policy |
WernhamHogg |
Feb-09-06 07:55 AM |
#142 |
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I Hate That Too - I Agree - and Not Only On Flights - |
we can do it |
Feb-09-06 11:22 AM |
#169 |
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Well, if there is one fat honkey who didn't have to pay double... |
HypnoToad |
Feb-09-06 07:57 AM |
#143 |
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I'm Ambivalent |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-09-06 09:04 AM |
#149 |
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The war against overweight people and airline scrooges |
savemefromdumbya |
Feb-09-06 09:41 AM |
#155 |
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hey corporate Ameirca... |
DetroitProle |
Feb-09-06 10:07 AM |
#158 |
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Really, all this argument - |
FlaGranny |
Feb-09-06 10:20 AM |
#159 |
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Thanks for the |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-09-06 11:08 AM |
#167 |
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We're all spoiled brats |
FlaGranny |
Feb-09-06 06:15 PM |
#178 |
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I flew from Chicago to Boston seated next to a woman who was huge. |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-09-06 10:45 AM |
#163 |