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131. Religion is the belief in stupid stuff for no legitimate reason.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 11:08 AM by TheUniverse
And in many faiths there is anti guy stuff. Christianity has it over and over again throughout the old and new testaments, including one passage in leviticus that orders you to kill gay people. Don't say that people who want gay people executed aren't religious. They are probably very religious, and that is the problem. Religion leads away from freedom and tolerance. People who support homosexual rights are generally less religious and more secular.
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  -I think if religious people had thier way, we'd extend tolerance and love to Gays in this country. Zandor  Sep-26-07 12:30 PM   #0 
  - Do you make a living out of making provocative, false statements?  Flabbergasted   Sep-26-07 12:32 PM   #1 
  - No, it's just his hobby here at DU. nm  dicksteele   Sep-27-07 07:29 AM   #99 
  - This is as much BS as the OP it is a copycat of. nt.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 12:32 PM   #2 
  - yeah tell em troll. tell em.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:33 PM   # 
  - I'm tempted to start my own thread now. nt.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 12:42 PM   #15 
  - It has, however, successfully proven  spoony   Sep-29-07 05:33 AM   #171 
  - Does tolerance include gay rights? The right to marry?  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 12:32 PM   #3 
  - Depends on the faith  Prophet 451   Sep-26-07 01:11 PM   #69 
     - People in my  Irishonly   Sep-28-07 02:47 PM   #151 
  - what bullshit.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:33 PM   #4 
  - Religous people are good people, by and large  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:38 PM   #12 
     - umm yeah, this is why theocracies are such examples of love peace and kindess  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:39 PM   #13 
     - "In this country" - America  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:46 PM   #18 
        - this is what you said 'Religous people are good people, by and large'  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:48 PM   #21 
           - I was refering to religous people in America  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:52 PM   #29 
              - so only american religious people are good, the rest are crappy.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:53 PM   #30 
              - Didn't say that  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:54 PM   #31 
              - as i said on gd before, america's slogan should be "we could be much worse"  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:55 PM   #33 
                 - hey...don't be bashing America. nt.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #36 
                 - Yes, much worse  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:57 PM   #39 
                 - ok so irans worse. no one is denying that. how is that related to goodness of american religious  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #44 
                    - Somebody brought it up  Zandor   Sep-26-07 01:00 PM   #49 
                       - you did. not post 13.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:00 PM   #50 
                          - Is your hatred of religious people, as a group, any more justifiable?  treestar   Oct-01-07 05:36 AM   #183 
                             - i dont hate religious people as a group. and no my ideal regime wouldnt burn anybody  lionesspriyanka   Oct-02-07 07:38 PM   #190 
                 - As long as we're two degrees above absolute shit we're great!  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #43 
              - LOL  Scurrilous   Sep-26-07 12:54 PM   #32 
              - Why are you offended by that? You agree with half of it.  spoony   Sep-29-07 05:28 AM   #170 
              - So a religious Iranian is not a "good person"?  SOS   Sep-28-07 11:10 AM   #133 
     - Really? Then why is it that just about the only reason people give as to why gay marriage should  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 12:40 PM   #14 
     - It's thier religous belief, for many  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:48 PM   #20 
     - They oppose it because of their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 12:50 PM   #24 
     - hmm...  PDenton   Sep-26-07 12:59 PM   #47 
        - Yeah, and religion also says that women should be subordinate to men  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 01:02 PM   # 
        - I'm not sure a persons religious beliefs  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:11 PM   #67 
        - but that's not true  Bill McBlueState   Sep-28-07 10:26 AM   #116 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-28-07 11:05 AM   #130 
     - just as long as they don't do that icky same sex - homosexhul - marriage girlyboy bikerdyky thingy.  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:34 PM   #148 
     - It's a big stretch  PDenton   Sep-26-07 12:55 PM   #34 
        - The OP is not about executing gays, it says that there would be love and tolerance  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #38 
        - fair enough  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:01 PM   #51 
        - whew - that make is OK then...  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:42 PM   #150 
        - not really - its just one small step...  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:39 PM   #149 
     - are they against DADT?  varun   Sep-26-07 01:03 PM   #55 
     - Following the upheaval in the Episcopal Church much?  PassingFair   Sep-27-07 08:16 AM   #101 
     - I don't disagree with you.  PassingFair   Sep-27-07 08:18 AM   #102 
     - Religious people account for more death and torture than all the other people added together.  renie408   Sep-28-07 10:45 AM   #122 
     - When you account for the deaths in the Soviet Union  treestar   Oct-01-07 05:26 AM   #180 
     - And atheists are bad people, by and large?  Ignis   Oct-03-07 01:49 PM   #193 
  - You mean religious people do NOT get their way?  TechBear_Seattle   Sep-26-07 12:33 PM   #5 
  - I think it's more a matter that most religious people dont want to politicize what they believe.  StrongBad   Sep-26-07 12:37 PM   #9 
  - I think you may be confusing spirituality with religion  KitchenWitch   Sep-26-07 12:33 PM   #6 
  - A fair point  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:37 PM   #10 
  - and my experience is : not so much.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:44 PM   #16 
  - Tolerance and love  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:50 PM   #23 
     - i am not talking legality. you can perform a same sex wedding without it having any state/fed rights  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:51 PM   #27 
        - As is thier right  Zandor   Sep-26-07 12:56 PM   #37 
           - but not as much as they love/tolerate straights?  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:57 PM   #41 
  - Which Religions Would Those Be?  Crisco   Sep-26-07 01:12 PM   #70 
  - except for all that SEX part...  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:48 PM   #152 
  - That is EXACTLY what I was going to say. There is a lot of 'religion' without spirituality. n/t  renie408   Sep-28-07 10:49 AM   #125 
  - I agree, KW.  I Have A Dream   Oct-02-07 11:10 AM   #186 
  - Your statement  H2O Man   Sep-26-07 12:33 PM   #7 
  - It does seem to that. But the OP was just trying to be nice and got  King Coal   Sep-28-07 03:39 PM   #166 
     - So true!  treestar   Oct-01-07 05:28 AM   #181 
  - Define what you mean by "if religious people had their way", please.  impeachdubya   Sep-26-07 12:36 PM   #8 
  - To a great extent, they do  Zandor   Sep-26-07 01:02 PM   #52 
  - You didn't answer my question, though:Are you trying to say that religious people are inherently  impeachdubya   Sep-26-07 02:37 PM   #96 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-26-07 12:38 PM   #11 
  - Ahh, I see. It's the Atheists that are the homophobes...  SidDithers   Sep-26-07 12:46 PM   #17 
  - yeah we are such bastards/  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:47 PM   #19 
  - many are. nt.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 12:49 PM   #22 
  - And so are many religious...nt  SidDithers   Sep-26-07 12:59 PM   #48 
  - no disagreemnent there. nt.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 01:06 PM   #59 
  - I may not be religious.....  demgurl   Sep-28-07 11:42 AM   #138 
  - What percentage, exactly?  Ignis   Oct-03-07 01:51 PM   #194 
  - Yep  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Sep-26-07 03:10 PM   #97 
  - You are the judge of what constitutes "religious"?  Selatius   Sep-26-07 12:50 PM   #25 
  - Then why haven't they? Why is it that every major religion is anti-gay?  Beelzebud   Sep-26-07 12:50 PM   #26 
  - Don't hold your breath waiting for recommendations on this thread...  bullwinkle428   Sep-26-07 12:52 PM   #28 
  - You have got to be kidding yourself  supernova   Sep-26-07 12:55 PM   #35 
  - No...  dicksteele   Sep-27-07 07:34 AM   #100 
  - on a side note...what exactly is tolerance?  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 12:57 PM   #40 
  - Apparently it means they don't lock you up and execute you.  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 12:58 PM   #45 
  - tolerance is apparanly the lack of hanging in public squares. so long as we arent doing that  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 12:59 PM   #46 
  - Tolerance doen't mean acceptance or affirmation  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:05 PM   #56 
     - You're comparing tolerance of a sport...to the acceptance of legal rights.  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 01:05 PM   #57 
     - so we should tolerate gays in the same way we tolerate a crappy sport?  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:06 PM   #58 
     - EXACTLY! don't you people get it?!?! They're really NICE people!!!  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:53 PM   #154 
     - do you think gay people or nascar fans need you to condone them?  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:08 PM   #61 
     - no... but there seems to be a cult of affirmation  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:13 PM   #71 
        - "Maybe they don't buy into every bit of gay rights"  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:14 PM   #72 
        - I tolerate blacks, I just don't think they should share the same stuff as whites or vote  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 01:16 PM   #75 
        - excellent!!! i mean we dont have to buy their whole point about equality now do we?  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:17 PM   #76 
        - "Tolerance doen't mean acceptance or affirmation"  SemiCharmedQuark   Sep-26-07 01:21 PM   #82 
        - that's a strawman  PDenton   Sep-26-07 01:24 PM   #85 
        - thats not a strawman. gays and straights dont enjoy the same rights.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-27-07 07:23 AM   #98 
        - It's hardly a strawman. It's a clear, direct comparison.  dicksteele   Sep-28-07 02:58 AM   #104 
        - WOW!  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:57 PM   #156 
        - manonman SEX!!! EEEEK!!! but they could watch girlongirlsex - THAT'S HOT!!!!!  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:55 PM   #155 
        - sadly that might be a better way to change people's negative attitudes...  tigereye   Oct-03-07 01:16 PM   #192 
        - Gay rights? Guess what, gay people are---people and they are entitled to the same rights  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:17 PM   #77 
        - i guess my brilliant marketing has atleast worked on you.  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:19 PM   #79 
           - indeed! Plastics are the future young lady and i think you have one helluva  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:21 PM   #81 
        - your use of the word tolerance is bigoted and offensive.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 01:25 PM   #87 
           - ...  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:26 PM   #89 
           - thank you for your tolerance. nt.  IndianaJones   Sep-26-07 01:28 PM   #90 
           - Indeed.  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 09:06 AM   #105 
     - Uh oh. Looks like this one got TS'd.  quantessd   Oct-02-07 04:32 PM   #189 
  - No True Scotsman n/t  Kelly Rupert   Sep-26-07 12:57 PM   #42 
  - The eternal defense.  BlooInBloo   Sep-28-07 10:34 AM   #119 
  - um what? Aren't you the same person that wants to bomb Iran and now you're  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:02 PM   #53 
  - Nope  Zandor   Sep-26-07 01:08 PM   #62 
  - right uh huh sure.  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:09 PM   #64 
  - Of course. It's all the World's Most Obvious Facade.  BlooInBloo   Sep-28-07 10:50 AM   #126 
  - You aren't from my part of the country, are you?  mmonk   Sep-26-07 01:02 PM   #54 
  - Looks like somebody is bored.  Breeze54   Sep-26-07 01:06 PM   #60 
  - Depends on the religion and the believer  Prophet 451   Sep-26-07 01:08 PM   #63 
  - Yes, religions have ALWAYS been a beacon of understanding  Goblinmonger   Sep-26-07 01:10 PM   #65 
  - That's not true  terrya   Sep-26-07 01:11 PM   #66 
  - the op is describing tolerance only by the lack of imprisonment and killing  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:11 PM   #68 
  - Nope.  Zandor   Sep-26-07 01:14 PM   #73 
  - read what you have to say yourself and your idiotic circular arguments  lionesspriyanka   Sep-26-07 01:15 PM   #74 
     - Go right up to post 1  Zandor   Sep-26-07 01:18 PM   #78 
        - you know what i saw the message board you started and after reading your posts  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:19 PM   #80 
           - Link or cached page?  GoneOffShore   Sep-26-07 01:23 PM   #83 
              - check your pm ok?  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:24 PM   #84 
                 - Can I get in  Zandor   Sep-26-07 01:25 PM   #86 
                 - sorry dude, i'm not religious so i don't have to tolerate you or your flamefests any longer.  chimpsrsmarter   Sep-26-07 01:26 PM   #88 
                 - Got it.  GoneOffShore   Sep-26-07 01:40 PM   #93 
  - So, if you don't imprison and torture somebody for something you disagree with, you are tolerant?  renie408   Sep-28-07 10:48 AM   #124 
  - That was the other thread's standard, actually.  spoony   Sep-29-07 05:35 AM   #172 
  - You're holding all religious people responsible for the view of  treestar   Oct-01-07 05:30 AM   #182 
  - "..those few": Few? They carried the election for Bush** twice on hatred and  AlinPA   Sep-26-07 01:28 PM   #91 
  - The religious people want to make this country & the world a better place.  baldguy   Sep-26-07 01:28 PM   #92 
  - you're begging for this shit  hiphopnation23   Sep-26-07 01:46 PM   #94 
  - Religious is too broad a term here...  Solon   Sep-26-07 01:47 PM   #95 
  - The MLK avatar is a nice touch, btw.  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 02:54 AM   #103 
  - ..  lionesspriyanka   Sep-28-07 09:07 AM   #106 
  - Aren't we LUCKY not to have been rounded up by now?  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 09:13 AM   #107 
     - well they just have to 'tolerate us'....and so long as we are a few steps above iran  lionesspriyanka   Sep-28-07 09:14 AM   #108 
        - I credit the religious people for looking out for us.  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 09:15 AM   #109 
           - you know the same people who have the 2 lines from leviticus tattooed on their brain  lionesspriyanka   Sep-28-07 09:17 AM   #110 
           - Hey!  DuStrange   Sep-29-07 10:06 PM   #178 
           - Shouldn't you be trolling MySpace for cannon fodder?  spoony   Sep-29-07 05:38 AM   #174 
  - Good thing she/he made a "support the troops" thread - else she/he'd have trouble..  BlooInBloo   Sep-28-07 10:52 AM   #127 
  - !  Raster   Sep-28-07 11:02 AM   #128 
  - All religion is poison, it doesn't matter whom you believe to be  NoFederales   Sep-28-07 09:19 AM   #111 
  - I can't find this  Enthusiast   Sep-28-07 09:47 AM   #112 
     - well look upthread: i think by 'tolerance' they mean 'not killing, imprisoning or maiming"  lionesspriyanka   Sep-28-07 10:15 AM   #113 
     - Is your post for the original OP? Mine is contrary: Religion is poison. nt  NoFederales   Sep-28-07 11:27 AM   #136 
  - Hehehe, 115 replies and only 1 rec...  SidDithers   Sep-28-07 10:16 AM   #114 
  - Riiiiiiiiiight.  Oregonian   Sep-28-07 10:22 AM   #115 
  - I hate to tell you this but...  youthere   Sep-28-07 10:28 AM   #117 
  - but religious people do have their way  Bill McBlueState   Sep-28-07 10:32 AM   #118 
  - EXACTLY.  youthere   Sep-28-07 10:35 AM   #120 
  - Jesse Ventura.... A congressman in california... Thats about it.  TheUniverse   Sep-28-07 11:10 AM   #134 
  - Clearly you don't live near a Southern Baptist megachurch  Rob H.   Sep-28-07 10:41 AM   #121 
  - Amen. n/t  renie408   Sep-28-07 10:46 AM   #123 
  - This is pure flamebait and it devalues your other threads and posts  yardwork   Sep-28-07 11:04 AM   #129 
  - No it doesn't - they're exactly the same value.  BlooInBloo   Sep-28-07 11:09 AM   #132 
  - OOH! SNAP!  youthere   Sep-28-07 11:10 AM   #135 
  - I disagree  Zandor   Sep-28-07 11:57 AM   #140 
     - I've yet to see a thread by you  charlie   Sep-28-07 12:00 PM   #141 
     - Sorry you feel the need to make a personal attack  Zandor   Sep-28-07 12:03 PM   #142 
        - "we're all progressives here"  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-28-07 02:50 PM   #153 
     - Fair & Balanced, eh Zandor?  BlooInBloo   Sep-28-07 12:16 PM   #143 
        - As subtle as a heart attack, isn't it?  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 02:26 PM   #144 
           - HEY! Be nice Bluebear! Just be nice.  King Coal   Sep-28-07 03:51 PM   #167 
  - Religion is the belief in stupid stuff for no legitimate reason.  TheUniverse   Sep-28-07 11:08 AM   #131 
  - I am not sure about that.  demgurl   Sep-28-07 11:31 AM   #137 
  - !!??  ronnie624   Sep-28-07 11:53 AM   #139 
  - depends on your meaning of 'religious'  spanone   Sep-28-07 02:27 PM   #145 
  - ohforchrissake...  TankLV   Sep-28-07 02:30 PM   #146 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-28-07 02:33 PM   #147 
  - "Why the f**k do DUers keep nominating these threads?"  Zandor   Sep-28-07 03:01 PM   #157 
     - What is your platform? The "Democrats like you" who are getting louder & whose voices are unheard?  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 03:11 PM   #159 
     - I love diverse opinions, really. But you are starting some odd discussions  paxmusa   Sep-28-07 03:13 PM   #160 
     - 'a certain slick, devisive precision'  Bluebear   Sep-28-07 03:21 PM   #162 
     - Well if people were slightly brighter  spoony   Sep-29-07 06:05 AM   #176 
        - Yes, exactly. Too many DUers are playing right into it and I wonder  paxmusa   Sep-29-07 10:45 AM   #177 
     - Why do you say "DUers" --- as if you are NOT one? hmmmmm?  Tuesday Afternoon   Oct-05-07 02:07 AM   #195 
  - Show me a homophobic asshole on DU or in the real world.  Evoman   Sep-28-07 03:05 PM   #158 
  - You are confusing religious people with spiritual people  Juniperx   Sep-28-07 03:14 PM   #161 
  - And those few that don't like haggis, it's hard to consider True Scotsmen.  LeftyMom   Sep-28-07 03:24 PM   #163 
  - I could take considerable offense at that remark.  baby_mouse   Oct-02-07 03:51 PM   #188 
  - that is simply not true, have you never studied history?  pitohui   Sep-28-07 03:30 PM   #164 
  - So what's/who's stopping them? The Pope? God? n/t  scorpiogirl   Sep-28-07 03:32 PM   #165 
  - .  Zenlitened   Sep-28-07 08:28 PM   #168 
  - Zen, Zen, Zen. Why did you kick this steaming pile of crap?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Sep-29-07 01:36 AM   #169 
     - The stink is coming from one clearly identifiable direction.  spoony   Sep-29-07 05:37 AM   #173 
        - indeed it is  sniffa   Oct-02-07 11:02 AM   #185 
  - First of all, you mis-spelled,  Beerboy   Sep-29-07 05:54 AM   #175 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-29-07 10:07 PM   #179 
  - Talk about a patently false statement (nm)  lynyrd_skynyrd   Oct-01-07 03:58 PM   #184 
  - Zandor approves of gay marriage. Bravo!  gatorboy   Oct-02-07 11:18 AM   #187 
  - My Bullshit-o-Meter just went haywire.  Jamastiene   Oct-02-07 08:57 PM   #191 
 

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