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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:23 PM
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31. ;-)
What you both said.
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  -So, how are you gonna feel about impeachment if Pelosi does it now & we get 55 senators vote yes LynneSin  Jan-19-07 02:52 PM   #0 
  - Yes, you are right.  AndyA   Jan-19-07 02:57 PM   #1 
  - Likewise. Agree and Rec! n/t  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:24 PM   #73 
  - Clinton served his entire term and...  LoZoccolo   Jan-19-07 02:58 PM   #2 
  - Oh I'm not doubting that - just saying that we impeached him but nothing changed  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 02:59 PM   #4 
     - Well, one thing changed. We got to say we were right and they were wrong about BC...  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:26 PM   #75 
     - if Bush impeached but acquited, will put historic stink on him & lead to comparison to Clinton  yurbud   Jan-19-07 05:02 PM   #91 
     - I think his point is supporting yours, LynneSin.  pnwmom   Jan-19-07 06:13 PM   #97 
  - I trust Pelosi's strategic descisionmaking  Taverner   Jan-19-07 02:59 PM   #3 
  - Actually the 'pulling off' really is in Harry Reid's hands  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:00 PM   #8 
     - Yes and with all that is on the table  Taverner   Jan-19-07 03:02 PM   #11 
  - I agree with you, and ...  Akoto   Jan-19-07 02:59 PM   #5 
  - Yes that is correct  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:00 PM   #9 
  - People are angry for Pelosi cutting the funding  DearAbby   Jan-19-07 03:58 PM   #48 
     - It's weird, I noticed that too...  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:28 PM   #78 
     - Do you have a source for that so I can go read? n/t  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 04:41 PM   #83 
     - I can do a search  DearAbby   Jan-19-07 04:44 PM   # 
        - Oh -- don't. I can do that. Because, when I listened to the WJ callers  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 04:53 PM   #89 
           - I have no problem with accounting for every dime  DearAbby   Jan-19-07 05:13 PM   #94 
     - it's cuz the goddam media has people brainwashed to believe that's not 'supporting the troops'  NotGivingUp   Jan-19-07 05:39 PM   #96 
  - I've said this until I was blue in the face  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 02:59 PM   #6 
  - ;-)  Richardo   Jan-19-07 03:23 PM   #31 
  - I just KNEW you'd show up  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 03:48 PM   #43 
  - I couldn't agree more.  pnwmom   Jan-19-07 06:14 PM   #98 
  - Investigate, uncover, report, (voters) demand impeachment  LiberalFighter   Jan-19-07 03:00 PM   #7 
  - I'll hope that they have everything necessary to convict.  ContraBass Black   Jan-19-07 03:01 PM   #10 
  - Bush wouldn't last through the investigation stage - he'd resign before it reached impeachment.  blm   Jan-19-07 03:02 PM   #12 
  - That would be grand now wouldn't it. Save money, time, and effort.  lonestarnot   Jan-20-07 10:03 AM   #116 
  - That's exactly right  sandnsea   Jan-19-07 03:02 PM   #13 
  - No, dammit, NO, LynneSin! I want to lose an impeachment bid RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!!  Hobarticus   Jan-19-07 03:03 PM   #14 
  - I thought Impeachment is off the table.  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:03 PM   #15 
  - Somewhat of a strawman argument you have there ...  cool user name   Jan-19-07 03:04 PM   #16 
  - Let's just say any number less than 67 senators  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:14 PM   #22 
  - How do you KNOW that we don't have 67 senators?  cool user name   Jan-19-07 03:19 PM   #27 
  - Oh trust me, I could easily name 30-40 senators we wouldn't get right now  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:20 PM   #28 
  - Well, I guess you and I are somewhat on the same page ...  cool user name   Jan-19-07 03:35 PM   #35 
  - I think we're all on the same page  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 03:58 PM   #49 
  - I call bullshit. You don't. You have no way of knowing when the rats  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 03:40 PM   #39 
     - Actually that's how we'll get Bush out of office - you called it exactly!!  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:02 PM   #52 
        - I think that's right. In a way, they will do it to themselves.  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 04:14 PM   # 
  - Which R's in the Senate do you think would vote to get rid of him?  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 03:56 PM   #46 
  - Well I think anyone opposing the surge COULD be a candidate  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:01 PM   #51 
     - Is that anyone other than Hagel?  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 04:11 PM   #59 
  - You have it backwards. You need to know you have 67 to start....  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:33 PM   #80 
  - You certainly can't count on lieberman's vote n/t  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:31 PM   #79 
  - I think LynneSin is being generous with 55  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 03:54 PM   #45 
     - I think at this point its "generous" to assume that the votes are there in the House  onenote   Jan-20-07 10:35 AM   #125 
  - I keep my S&P on the stove...  libnnc   Jan-19-07 03:04 PM   #17 
  - You nailed it!  Nightjock   Jan-19-07 03:08 PM   #18 
  - You're arguing a non-issue.  porphyrian   Jan-19-07 03:08 PM   #19 
  - I think this is more of a reactionary post to the 800 "Nancy Sucks because she won't impeach" thread  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:16 PM   #24 
     - Reactionary posts? On DU?  porphyrian   Jan-19-07 03:45 PM   #42 
        - And that's very true but asking for Nancy Pelosi's head isn't gonna help  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:59 PM   #50 
           - Yeah, that's extreme.  porphyrian   Jan-19-07 04:04 PM   #53 
              - I know from experience that this website is monitored by all sorts of folks  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:08 PM   #55 
                 - We should determine our behavior by what other people think about it?  porphyrian   Jan-19-07 04:14 PM   #63 
                    - When you NEED the cooperation of other people to succeed, YES!  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:40 PM   #82 
                       - But it works in both directions. Persuasion.  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 04:44 PM   #86 
                       - I'm sorry. I don't really understand what you were trying to say. n/t  GOTV   Jan-20-07 06:21 PM   #132 
                       - Wrong.  porphyrian   Jan-19-07 04:49 PM   #87 
                          - You cannot stop Bush without the help of others. It's a simple fact.  GOTV   Jan-20-07 06:20 PM   #131 
  - Yes, exactly!  JerseygirlCT   Jan-19-07 03:09 PM   #20 
  - Impeachment process  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:13 PM   #21 
  - Thanks for the great breakdown of the process  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:17 PM   #26 
  - I messed up. I meant 3rd and 4th.  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:20 PM   #29 
  - Also, I used president in the description but of course, it  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:29 PM   #33 
  - But Pelosi said Steps #1 and #2 are off the table. So, no CRIMINAL investigation in Congress.  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 09:46 AM   #112 
     - You don't believe Congressman Waxman will uncover anything?  porphyrian   Jan-20-07 09:49 AM   #113 
        - The current inquiries are not structured in a way capable of uncovering criminal wrongdoing.  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 09:57 AM   #115 
           - You don't believe the people can or will demand impeachment as the facts are revealed?  porphyrian   Jan-20-07 10:20 AM   #120 
              - They are only afraid of Democrats who have money. That's why the Clintons are so powerful  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 10:29 AM   #123 
                 - Won't the campaign finance reform change this?  porphyrian   Jan-20-07 10:33 AM   #124 
  - Impeachment is an indictment by the House. Removal follows a conviction  Seabiscuit   Jan-21-07 08:44 AM   #139 
  - impeachment  Parche   Jan-19-07 03:15 PM   #23 
  - Senators aren't required to impeach. Impeach is to charge.  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:40 PM   #38 
  - impeach  Parche   Jan-19-07 03:42 PM   #41 
  - My postion is this (and I know a lot of people disagree).  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:48 PM   #44 
     - And then after all the hoopla is done we get less than 67 senators to support it  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:25 PM   #74 
        - Even with all the evidence laid out in front of the public?  mmonk   Jan-19-07 04:42 PM   #85 
        - Dem Senators that will never in a million years vote for Bush impeachment:  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 10:09 AM   #117 
           - Good list. It shows how much work we need to do before impeachment. n/t  GOTV   Jan-20-07 06:33 PM   #134 
  - That's why we count Senators. Impeachment is not removal and therefore useless by itself  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:42 PM   #84 
     - So you are also counting there will not be enough evidence?  mmonk   Jan-19-07 05:11 PM   #93 
        - No. I'm counting on the fact there is CURRENTLY not enough evidence...  GOTV   Jan-20-07 06:31 PM   #133 
  - Surely you think wiretapping every man, woman and child is horrible enough  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 09:49 AM   #114 
  - The call for impeachment...  Wildewolfe   Jan-19-07 03:16 PM   #25 
  - How do you figure that?  mmonk   Jan-19-07 03:57 PM   #47 
  - ABC played Leahy going off on Gonzo last night  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 04:06 PM   #54 
     - Enough to keep all the White House lawyers sleep-deprived.  mmonk   Jan-19-07 04:13 PM   #60 
        - Thanks  wryter2000   Jan-19-07 04:14 PM   #64 
  - Republican support will be the tipping point, but Dems should NOT leave it to them to initiate it  yurbud   Jan-19-07 04:21 PM   #69 
  - You're right. We should have waited for the Nazis to initiate the Nuremberg trials too  yurbud   Jan-19-07 04:22 PM   #70 
  - LOVE the salt & pepper analogy!  kineta   Jan-19-07 03:22 PM   #30 
  - Yeah, I'm not sure which one made a mess  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 03:29 PM   #34 
  - Do it wrong, we might get 55 votes in the Senate  Jack Rabbit   Jan-19-07 03:27 PM   #32 
  - TWO reasons to do it anyway:  yurbud   Jan-19-07 03:36 PM   #36 
  - Isn't that what the investigation is doing?  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:09 PM   #58 
     - I think it relates to a slightly smaller issue of Democrats communication style: incrementalism vs.  yurbud   Jan-19-07 04:17 PM   #65 
  - You're right, Lynne. We're moving 'way too fast on impeaching  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 03:39 PM   #37 
  - well, there is no evidence he has committed cannibalism in the oval office  yurbud   Jan-19-07 04:18 PM   #67 
     - I'm sorry if I'm misreading Lynne, which I've done before. All I know is  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 04:38 PM   #81 
     - you and I agree completely. We don't have to be circumspect and SHOULDN'T  yurbud   Jan-19-07 04:56 PM   #90 
     - He turned me into a Newt!  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 10:14 AM   #118 
  - We have a different role than congress. Our job is to yell to impeach until it seems inevitable  yurbud   Jan-19-07 03:42 PM   #40 
  - No, impeachment is their job (and duty).  mmonk   Jan-19-07 04:08 PM   #56 
  - We can be publically for impeachment. Congressional Dems should play it differently  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:19 PM   #68 
     - In no way we should shush about impeachment  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:28 PM   #77 
  - Thhis impeachment hawk gives a K&R for a voice of sound reason.  Husb2Sparkly   Jan-19-07 04:08 PM   #57 
  - 55 Senators not equal wrist slap. It equals W being totally vindicated, validated and consecrated.  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:14 PM   #61 
  - One additional note about Investigation vs. Impeachment  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:14 PM   #62 
  - Oh yes, let's wait  DancingBear   Jan-19-07 04:18 PM   #66 
  - So instead we should just rush right thru it, get less than 67 senators  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:22 PM   #71 
  - No - YOU don't get it  DancingBear   Jan-19-07 06:59 PM   #102 
     - The next kid dead is one too many.  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-07 10:15 PM   #106 
        - Too many for you and me but not for others unfortunately...  GOTV   Jan-20-07 06:40 PM   #136 
  - We need enough Americans to die to convince 67 Senators. Until that happens Impeachment wont stop W  GOTV   Jan-19-07 04:22 PM   #72 
     - Isn't that a really crappy concept  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 04:27 PM   #76 
        - It's the same concept some "anti-war" folks falsely held: "When the body bags start coming home..."  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 10:22 AM   #121 
        - I never said dead Americans WOULD convince Senators...  GOTV   Jan-20-07 06:13 PM   #130 
        - It's the same concept held by a few who were "anti-war": "When the body bags start comin home..."  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-20-07 10:24 AM   #122 
  - Pelosi does not want to begin the process. Ever.  Tom Joad   Jan-19-07 04:52 PM   #88 
  - Tom - see #102  DancingBear   Jan-19-07 07:01 PM   #103 
  - Clinton served his full term because the IMPEACHMENT of him was bogus  omega minimo   Jan-19-07 05:08 PM   #92 
  - Wrong. He served the full term because the Senate failed to convict.  pnwmom   Jan-19-07 06:19 PM   #99 
     - The Senate didn't convict because the IMPEACHMENT was totally bogus  omega minimo   Jan-19-07 06:55 PM   #101 
        - Did the bogus nature of the charges against BC prevent the House from  pnwmom   Jan-20-07 02:25 AM   #108 
           - Actually, the impeachment of President Clinton was to honor him  B Calm   Jan-20-07 06:25 AM   #111 
              - True. And so it backfired on the Repubs. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-21-07 06:35 AM   #137 
                 - Yes, it backfired on them. They thought he would act like a guilty  B Calm   Jan-21-07 01:04 PM   #141 
                    - I'm not sure that he's mentally healthy enough to know he's guilty. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-21-07 03:16 PM   #142 
                       - Good point, but unlike the impeachment of President Clinton they  B Calm   Jan-21-07 07:39 PM   #145 
  - Have you ever read any of H2OMan's threads on impeachment?  bobbolink   Jan-19-07 05:29 PM   #95 
  - I've read them, and I still agree with LynneSin. She's not fear-mongering,  pnwmom   Jan-19-07 06:23 PM   #100 
  - Fear mongering.  bobbolink   Jan-20-07 03:48 PM   #127 
  - I have never said we shouldn't impeach  LynneSin   Jan-19-07 07:56 PM   #105 
     - You can be frustrated all you wish.  bobbolink   Jan-20-07 03:51 PM   #128 
  - Bbbbut We Haven't Counted The Vvvotes! How Do You Know Huh? NO ONE KNOWS!!! Roaarrrr! Block Block  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jan-19-07 07:03 PM   #104 
  - We probably can't get enough votes to remove Bush. Impeach Gonzales?  meldroc   Jan-19-07 10:21 PM   #107 
  - Hmmm . . . there's a thought. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-20-07 02:28 AM   #109 
  - With all due respect...  Everybody   Jan-20-07 06:12 AM   #110 
  - I can think of two hearings that shined a nice bright light on this admin.  halobeam   Jan-20-07 10:15 AM   #119 
  - one investigation will make impeachment take care of itself--2001 Cheney Energy Task Force  yurbud   Jan-20-07 01:06 PM   #126 
  - Why are you repeating an already-corrected misstatement?  Zhade   Jan-20-07 03:51 PM   #129 
  - I trust you on this n/t  NNN0LHI   Jan-20-07 06:36 PM   #135 
  - I basically agree...  sendero   Jan-21-07 06:46 AM   #138 
  - he's the biggest goddam criminal alive today...impeach now..which INCLUDES investigation  NotGivingUp   Jan-21-07 08:57 AM   #140 
  - GREAT POST!!!!  xultar   Jan-21-07 03:17 PM   #143 
  - Sheesh. Fight the fights that are worth fighting - not *just* the ones you think you can win...  BlooInBloo   Jan-21-07 03:18 PM   #144 
 

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