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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:40 PM
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20. Hmm, not "accountable", "responsible". Hard to explain...
:::: "(Although, I do want to ask - does that mean that whining and doing nothing is a valid choice, so long as I admit that my choice is whining and doing nothing?)"

Yep.

:::: "But what about the thing happening in the first place? It bothers me a lot that there is still this statement floating out there that my choice to drive my car to the red light in the first place makes me accountable for what happens next."

Not accountable, responsible.

People should not think "Ok, I got rear-ended, someone should be responsible for getting this problem resolved." and then proceed to not be proactive and take care of everything that needs to be taken care of. What if the guy fights in court? What if he has no insurance? What if he refuses to pay? You need to figure out what you're gonna do, what your options are, and how to make due in the mean time. Did you save enough money to buy a replacement car? Can you set up a carpool with a co-worker? Can you take public transportation? All of these things are the Responsibility of the individual, and have little to do with "legal recourse, and reparations due to fault".

That's all I'm sayin.
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  -Poll: Victim Mentality distantearlywarning  Jan-17-07 03:20 PM   #0 
  - I think a far more accurate statement would be; "Those who don't remember the past  impeachdubya   Jan-17-07 03:23 PM   #1 
  - This reminds me of the joke that...  HappyWeasel   Jan-17-07 03:24 PM   #2 
     - I don't get it.  impeachdubya   Jan-17-07 03:30 PM   #3 
  - I reject the premise of the poll.  porphyrian   Jan-17-07 03:31 PM   #4 
  - While people do need to take responsibiltiy for their feelings TOWARDS their experiences,  uppityperson   Jan-17-07 03:33 PM   #5 
  - I view "Responsibility" and "Fault" as two different things.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:39 PM   #6 
     - This is an extremely disturbing viewpoint.  distantearlywarning   Jan-17-07 04:03 PM   #12 
        - I agree with everything you said.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:06 PM   #13 
           - I see.  distantearlywarning   Jan-17-07 04:12 PM   #16 
              - I'll explain.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:17 PM   #18 
                 - Ok.  distantearlywarning   Jan-17-07 04:30 PM   #19 
                    - Hmm, not "accountable", "responsible". Hard to explain...  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:40 PM   #20 
  - "Many"? Yes.  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-17-07 03:39 PM   #7 
  - I don't really know -- can only speak for my own experience.  SmokingJacket   Jan-17-07 03:45 PM   #8 
  - That's the sort of poll that I would never participate in. Way too  TerdlowSmedley   Jan-17-07 03:46 PM   #9 
  - Personal responsibility IS necessary. It is NOT sufficient. (n/t)  IndyOp   Jan-17-07 03:50 PM   #10 
  - Ooo, I like that phrase, I'm gonna steal it. :) -nt  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:51 PM   #11 
  - While I believe there are people who live the victim mentality,  walldude   Jan-17-07 04:08 PM   #14 
  - I Think Many Could Improve To Differing Degrees; But Cured? That's A Bit Of An Exaggeration IMHO.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jan-17-07 04:10 PM   #15 
  - No I don't. I don't even think the statement makes any sense.  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 04:16 PM   #17 
  - I think it's irresponsible to conflate larger ills with personal responsibility.  crispini   Jan-17-07 05:00 PM   #21 
 

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