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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #163
168. Yes it does..
Christians, Republicans, white heterosexual males, all victims of liberalism and the horrors they perpetrate on an unsuspecting public.
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  -How a Victim Mentality Makes You Remain in the Hurtful Past rpgamerd00d  Jan-17-07 01:29 PM   #0 
  - happy belated Martin Luther King Jr. Day to you too...  nashville_brook   Jan-17-07 01:31 PM   #1 
  - Ditto that.  theHandpuppet   Jan-17-07 01:57 PM   #18 
  - Good post. Any group of positive persons is more powerful than only one.  Peake   Jan-17-07 01:31 PM   #2 
  - seems like a lounge post to me but whatever  pitohui   Jan-17-07 01:35 PM   #3 
  - Victim and Victim mentality are different, as per the article.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:36 PM   #4 
     - in real life the phrase victim mentality is code for STFU w. yr liberal issues  pitohui   Jan-17-07 01:53 PM   #12 
        - I disagree. This has nothing to do with real victims of real offenses.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:54 PM   #13 
           - well that is patently untrue  pitohui   Jan-17-07 01:56 PM   #17 
           - Show me a slave in the USA, and I'll give you $1000.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:58 PM   #22 
              - Just because it was abolished doesn't mean they don't exist..  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:05 PM   #42 
              - OK, you're right, I should have said "legal slavery"  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:06 PM   #45 
              - I will send you my address  Madspirit   Jan-17-07 04:27 PM   #148 
           - Depends on your definition of slavery.  Kerrytravelers   Jan-17-07 02:02 PM   #31 
              - what is your definition of "is" ?  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:03 PM   #34 
                 - That's pretty sad.  crispini   Jan-17-07 02:18 PM   #54 
                 - Well said! And it's not all financial either!  ieoeja   Jan-17-07 02:42 PM   #82 
                 - good post, but those 'people alive today' have adult grandchildren  hfojvt   Jan-17-07 03:01 PM   #107 
                    - The economic impact is the biggest thing I am thinking of.  crispini   Jan-17-07 03:37 PM   #122 
                 - So now you're quoting Republic spin against Clinton.  ieoeja   Jan-17-07 02:31 PM   #72 
  - Rescuers need Victims in the Melodrama of Life.  TahitiNut   Jan-17-07 01:37 PM   #5 
  - I like that phrase.  igil   Jan-17-07 02:37 PM   #78 
     - It's a melodrama for the Victims, the Rescuers, and the Villains.  TahitiNut   Jan-17-07 03:27 PM   #118 
  - The problem is that the damage caused by slavery has never been entirely fixed.  porphyrian   Jan-17-07 01:41 PM   #6 
  - It is disingenuous to blame todays issues on slavery, and it is just as  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:43 PM   #8 
     - It's not slavery's "fault," but the damage it caused did not end with the practice.  porphyrian   Jan-17-07 02:03 PM   #35 
     - I feel that doing so would re-victimize those same people youre trying to help.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:11 PM   #48 
        - Did you even read the resolution?...  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:17 PM   #53 
        - If you ignore the history parts of it, here is the only relevant piece:  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:20 PM   #57 
           - If you ignore the history parts of it?  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:22 PM   #60 
           - Its a resolution, and all it does is blather on and on until it finally gets to  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:24 PM   #64 
              - Okay, you had me going there for a while...  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:31 PM   #71 
           - atone "1. To make amends, as for a sin or fault: These crimes must be atoned for."  bananas   Jan-17-07 03:06 PM   #111 
        - No one has to accept an apology, but no one can accept one that isn't given.  porphyrian   Jan-17-07 02:20 PM   #58 
     - no it's not  mark414   Jan-17-07 02:22 PM   #61 
  - I think this "just don't think like a victim and the world is your oyster" is a load of crap.  fasttense   Jan-17-07 01:43 PM   #7 
  - Again, real victim isn't the same thing as victim mentality, you should read more carefully  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:44 PM   #9 
     - people can read just fine, it's the OP that is poorly written  pitohui   Jan-17-07 01:55 PM   # 
     - Well, since Im farther to the left than pretty much everyone here,  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:56 PM   #16 
     - facts not in evidence, sorry  pitohui   Jan-17-07 01:58 PM   #21 
     - OK, you need to re-read everything, because now you're just making shit up.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:59 PM   #24 
     - You're so damn far to the left that you've made it all the way to the extreme right.  Sapphire Blue   Jan-17-07 02:01 PM   #27 
     - Uh, no, this is a very liberal viewpoint.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:01 PM   #28 
        - sounds a bit Ayn Rand-ian... maybe she was a liberal and we just didn't get it  nashville_brook   Jan-17-07 02:07 PM   #46 
        - liberal not = left  iverglas   Jan-17-07 04:02 PM   #136 
           - That is very well put  crispini   Jan-17-07 04:46 PM   #155 
              - I didn't read a lot of the thread ...  iverglas   Jan-17-07 05:21 PM   #159 
              - Exactly. Symbols have power.  crispini   Jan-17-07 05:48 PM   #164 
                 - here's one to ponder  iverglas   Jan-17-07 06:29 PM   #167 
              - self-deleted; it told me my post didn't work the first time (n/t)  iverglas   Jan-17-07 05:23 PM   #160 
     - HAHAHAHAHAHA!  Zhade   Jan-17-07 03:04 PM   #110 
     - Hmm, lets see.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:08 PM   #113 
     - That is amazing! I had no idea we had clairvoyants on this board!  Midlodemocrat   Jan-17-07 03:45 PM   #128 
     - Forgiveness is an act of personal change. n/t  Dora   Jan-17-07 02:04 PM   #40 
     - And you should read my response more carefully.  fasttense   Jan-17-07 02:00 PM   #25 
  - This is a good article,  Marie26   Jan-17-07 01:50 PM   #10 
  - Blacks do need to "get over" slavery.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:53 PM   #11 
     - So that was the real point  Marie26   Jan-17-07 01:59 PM   #23 
     - You are, of course, totally wrong.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:00 PM   #26 
        - Sorry that symbolic gestures are over yours...n/t  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:04 PM   #38 
        - No, I am totally right  Marie26   Jan-17-07 02:04 PM   #39 
     - Slavery doesn't affect us?  Connie_Corleone   Jan-17-07 02:02 PM   #30 
     - This may help you some with the family tree thing (congress to act on it):  The Straight Story   Jan-17-07 04:05 PM   #137 
     - This post is one of the most offensive that I have ever read on this site.  Sapphire Blue   Jan-17-07 02:02 PM   #32 
     - Then why are you replying here?  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:04 PM   #37 
     - Perhaps To Let You Know It Was Offensive?  ProfessorGAC   Jan-17-07 02:29 PM   #69 
     - Because this is where you posted your offensive crap.  Sapphire Blue   Jan-17-07 02:33 PM   #73 
     - It's certainly up there. nt  Marie26   Jan-17-07 02:16 PM   #52 
     - I know you think the resolution is bullshit...  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:03 PM   #33 
     - That might well be, I don't live there. I'll take your word for it.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:04 PM   #41 
     - Let me guess - you're white, right?  lukasahero   Jan-17-07 02:39 PM   #79 
        - Please keep the racism out of my thread, thanks.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:42 PM   #84 
           - BWAAHAHA!  lukasahero   Jan-17-07 02:43 PM   #85 
           - Nothing I've said is remotely racist.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:46 PM   #88 
           - LOL!  Marie26   Jan-17-07 02:43 PM   #86 
  - Ah, I see we're back to this topic again:  Kerrytravelers   Jan-17-07 01:55 PM   #14 
  - What a narrow view of history  MadHound   Jan-17-07 01:55 PM   #15 
  - Great. Now, how does VA apologizing for slavery help?  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 01:57 PM   #20 
     - How does South Africa  Marie26   Jan-17-07 02:04 PM   #36 
     - And clearly, your articles is the definitive opinion that we must all subscribe to.  Kerrytravelers   Jan-17-07 02:06 PM   #43 
     - Delusions of grandeur, indeed.  Bunny   Jan-17-07 03:51 PM   #135 
     - This is how..  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:12 PM   #49 
     - Not exactly an answer to what I asked, but lemme go with it.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:16 PM   #51 
        - Based on your false premise, it doesn't...  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:21 PM   #59 
        - Um yeah, they are, read it:  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:25 PM   #66 
        - Umm, you cherry-picked one line out of the resolution..  Virginia Dare   Jan-17-07 02:51 PM   #94 
        - that's an interesting point  Bill McBlueState   Jan-17-07 03:41 PM   #124 
        - you have articles written by psychologists that clearly show it would hurt the situation?  fishwax   Jan-17-07 05:50 PM   #165 
     - Well, first of all, I think that your two articles are POS, nothing personal  MadHound   Jan-17-07 02:24 PM   #63 
     - got google?  iverglas   Jan-17-07 05:45 PM   #162 
  - Agreed. Victimization encourages passivity. nt  MookieWilson   Jan-17-07 01:57 PM   #19 
  - And frequently leads to behaviors that prevent further victimization. n/t  fasttense   Jan-17-07 02:02 PM   #29 
     - Yes and no. Being a victim and being victimized are different. nt  MookieWilson   Jan-17-07 02:06 PM   #44 
        - this thread is frizzy with split hairs  nashville_brook   Jan-17-07 02:09 PM   #47 
        - True but you start out as a victim.  fasttense   Jan-17-07 02:14 PM   #50 
  - Good post  mongo   Jan-17-07 02:19 PM   #55 
  - And on the other hand,  Marie26   Jan-17-07 02:33 PM   #75 
  - My personal opinion?  distantearlywarning   Jan-17-07 02:19 PM   #56 
  - I disagree. I think personal responsibility is not a right or left issue.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:23 PM   #62 
  - have you read Wayward Puritans?  iverglas   Jan-17-07 05:35 PM   #161 
  - Best post on the thread  Mandate My Ass   Jan-17-07 02:25 PM   #65 
  - Nailed it.  Marie26   Jan-17-07 02:28 PM   #68 
  - Excellent post. Don't think you'll convince the OP, though.  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 02:31 PM   #70 
  - You sure you're not a neocon? You just blamed me for shit I didn't say.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:36 PM   #77 
     - Did you or did you not say black people have to get over slavery?  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 02:42 PM   #81 
        - There are no victims of slavery. You claimed I said there were. Thats not true.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:44 PM   #87 
           - You said blacks need to get over it.  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 02:50 PM   #92 
              - Of course they do! They were never affected by it!  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:53 PM   #97 
                 - Where did that racism, intolerance and ignorance come from?  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 02:56 PM   #102 
                 - Look, I do understand your point, I'm not stupid.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:00 PM   #106 
                    - Can't change the past. But you can work to change its effect  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 03:08 PM   #114 
                       - Its very important that you address the actual issues, however.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:15 PM   #116 
                          - It's not as if  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 03:24 PM   #117 
                             - Actually, youre right, I shouldn't have implied the apology needed to wait.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:28 PM   #120 
                                - From your perspective it may seem like a waste of time.  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 03:39 PM   #123 
                                - I am a nit-picker by nature. Its just how I am.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:42 PM   #125 
                                   - And that's not a bad attribute, generally speaking.  Pithlet   Jan-17-07 03:48 PM   #130 
                                - I think you have revised your point a little bit.  crispini   Jan-17-07 03:45 PM   #127 
                                   - Well, sorry, I just suck at writing.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:49 PM   #132 
                                      - Oh, come on.  crispini   Jan-17-07 04:11 PM   #140 
                                         - None of that is true. but thanks for the accusation, that fosters discussion.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:12 PM   #142 
                                            - See, there you go again, ignoring my point.  crispini   Jan-17-07 04:20 PM   #146 
                 - WOW!!!  Karenina   Jan-17-07 04:17 PM   #145 
  - You're not paying attention.  Midlodemocrat   Jan-17-07 03:50 PM   #133 
  - DEEPLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION FOR VICTIMS OF CHILDHOOD ABUSE.  dogindia   Jan-17-07 02:26 PM   #67 
  - Exactly.  mongo   Jan-17-07 09:33 PM   #173 
  - Wow this sounds just like Michael Savages claims  walldude   Jan-17-07 02:33 PM   #74 
  - I think the second article makes some interesting points, though I'm not sure how it relates  fishwax   Jan-17-07 02:35 PM   #76 
  - Its because slavery is no longer the issue, prejudice and intolerance are.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:41 PM   #80 
     - So then I take it you are willing to let George Bush  walldude   Jan-17-07 02:47 PM   #89 
     - Of course not, are you crazy?  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:48 PM   #90 
        - It's your strawman I used, that bother you a little?  walldude   Jan-17-07 02:55 PM   #99 
           - Bush is alive and can be held accountable.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:57 PM   #104 
              - So as long as the person who kept your ancestors  walldude   Jan-17-07 03:07 PM   #112 
                 - The resolution in VA does.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:11 PM   #115 
                    - The resolution in Va, Donald McEachin, D-Henrico County.  walldude   Jan-17-07 03:29 PM   #121 
     - they didn't emerge in a vacuum  fishwax   Jan-17-07 05:20 PM   #158 
  - So have you actually read Sojourner Truth?  Bornaginhooligan   Jan-17-07 02:42 PM   #83 
  - Congratulations!  DrunkenMaster   Jan-17-07 02:49 PM   #91 
  - Its not even remotely racist in the slightest.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:50 PM   #93 
     - bullshite  DrunkenMaster   Jan-17-07 02:53 PM   #96 
        - So, to you, talking about blacks in any way is racist? Hmm, sounds racist to me.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:54 PM   #98 
           - what a stupid response  DrunkenMaster   Jan-17-07 03:00 PM   #105 
              - No, it doesnt!! OMFG! Read everything!  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:02 PM   #109 
  - Buuuullllshit! History is not static, it's a continuum.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-17-07 02:52 PM   #95 
  - LMAO.. "History From A Self-Help" book  walldude   Jan-17-07 02:56 PM   #103 
  - 'Victim mentality' = code for GET OVER IT! nt  Bluebear   Jan-17-07 02:55 PM   #100 
  - No its not, I actually said "Get over it" when I meant "Get over it"  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 02:56 PM   #101 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-07 03:01 PM   #108 
  - Can you provide actual examples of this so-called "entitlement" that the issue of slavery engenders?  impeachdubya   Jan-17-07 03:28 PM   #119 
  - wait a sec... aren't you the one who says that Japan doesn't owe us an apology for Pearl Harbor?  NorthernSpy   Jan-17-07 03:45 PM   #126 
  - They dont.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 03:47 PM   #129 
     - Oh, gawd! You really don't understand the difference between a state and an individual person?  NorthernSpy   Jan-17-07 04:22 PM   #147 
        - (... and by "undying" or "immortal", I mean *highly persistent*...)  NorthernSpy   Jan-17-07 04:33 PM   #149 
        - Very well said.  crispini   Jan-17-07 04:34 PM   #151 
        - So, you're saying that entities never change?  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:51 PM   #156 
  - I suspect that you, sir, have at least one thing in common with George Bush.  crispini   Jan-17-07 03:48 PM   #131 
  - Interesting opinion.  Rex   Jan-17-07 03:50 PM   #134 
  - But slavery still does affect us today  DireStrike   Jan-17-07 04:07 PM   #138 
  - I never said they werent related. I don't know where you get that from.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:09 PM   #139 
     - Just a little jump in here: maybe the poster got the idea from your post  blonndee   Jan-17-07 04:12 PM   #141 
     - Doesn't say it there, either.  rpgamerd00d   Jan-17-07 04:13 PM   #143 
        - Or here, maybe.  blonndee   Jan-17-07 04:15 PM   #144 
     - Cause and effect  kwassa   Jan-17-07 06:59 PM   #170 
  - You should have posted this thread in the African American forum.  cat_girl25   Jan-17-07 04:34 PM   #150 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-07 04:39 PM   #153 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-07 04:44 PM   #154 
     - Dim bulb? Morons who don't get it?  walldude   Jan-17-07 05:18 PM   #157 
  - Please don't give him any ideas  Karenina   Jan-17-07 05:52 PM   #166 
  - even worse  Madspirit   Jan-17-07 04:36 PM   #152 
  - There are MANY forms of discrimination  Perragrande   Jan-17-07 06:59 PM   #171 
  - Yep  BoneDaddy   Jan-17-07 05:46 PM   #163 
  - Yes it does..  walldude   Jan-17-07 06:42 PM   #168 
     - I include them as  BoneDaddy   Jan-17-07 09:04 PM   #172 
  - Tangential yet relevant  Book Lover   Jan-17-07 06:47 PM   #169 
     - here's an interesting one  iverglas   Jan-18-07 02:37 PM   #174 
 

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