| 45. OK, you're right, I should have said "legal slavery" |
| -How a Victim Mentality Makes You Remain in the Hurtful Past |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:29 PM |
#0 |
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happy belated Martin Luther King Jr. Day to you too... |
nashville_brook |
Jan-17-07 01:31 PM |
#1 |
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Ditto that. |
theHandpuppet |
Jan-17-07 01:57 PM |
#18 |
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Good post. Any group of positive persons is more powerful than only one. |
Peake |
Jan-17-07 01:31 PM |
#2 |
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seems like a lounge post to me but whatever |
pitohui |
Jan-17-07 01:35 PM |
#3 |
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Victim and Victim mentality are different, as per the article. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:36 PM |
#4 |
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in real life the phrase victim mentality is code for STFU w. yr liberal issues |
pitohui |
Jan-17-07 01:53 PM |
#12 |
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I disagree. This has nothing to do with real victims of real offenses. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:54 PM |
#13 |
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well that is patently untrue |
pitohui |
Jan-17-07 01:56 PM |
#17 |
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Show me a slave in the USA, and I'll give you $1000. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:58 PM |
#22 |
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Just because it was abolished doesn't mean they don't exist.. |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:05 PM |
#42 |
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OK, you're right, I should have said "legal slavery" |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:06 PM |
#45 |
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I will send you my address |
Madspirit |
Jan-17-07 04:27 PM |
#148 |
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Depends on your definition of slavery. |
Kerrytravelers |
Jan-17-07 02:02 PM |
#31 |
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what is your definition of "is" ? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:03 PM |
#34 |
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That's pretty sad. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 02:18 PM |
#54 |
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Well said! And it's not all financial either! |
ieoeja |
Jan-17-07 02:42 PM |
#82 |
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good post, but those 'people alive today' have adult grandchildren |
hfojvt |
Jan-17-07 03:01 PM |
#107 |
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The economic impact is the biggest thing I am thinking of. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 03:37 PM |
#122 |
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So now you're quoting Republic spin against Clinton. |
ieoeja |
Jan-17-07 02:31 PM |
#72 |
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Rescuers need Victims in the Melodrama of Life. |
TahitiNut |
Jan-17-07 01:37 PM |
#5 |
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I like that phrase. |
igil |
Jan-17-07 02:37 PM |
#78 |
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It's a melodrama for the Victims, the Rescuers, and the Villains. |
TahitiNut |
Jan-17-07 03:27 PM |
#118 |
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The problem is that the damage caused by slavery has never been entirely fixed. |
porphyrian |
Jan-17-07 01:41 PM |
#6 |
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It is disingenuous to blame todays issues on slavery, and it is just as |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:43 PM |
#8 |
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It's not slavery's "fault," but the damage it caused did not end with the practice. |
porphyrian |
Jan-17-07 02:03 PM |
#35 |
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I feel that doing so would re-victimize those same people youre trying to help. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:11 PM |
#48 |
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Did you even read the resolution?... |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:17 PM |
#53 |
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If you ignore the history parts of it, here is the only relevant piece: |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:20 PM |
#57 |
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If you ignore the history parts of it? |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:22 PM |
#60 |
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Its a resolution, and all it does is blather on and on until it finally gets to |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:24 PM |
#64 |
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Okay, you had me going there for a while... |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:31 PM |
#71 |
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atone "1. To make amends, as for a sin or fault: These crimes must be atoned for." |
bananas |
Jan-17-07 03:06 PM |
#111 |
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No one has to accept an apology, but no one can accept one that isn't given. |
porphyrian |
Jan-17-07 02:20 PM |
#58 |
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no it's not |
mark414 |
Jan-17-07 02:22 PM |
#61 |
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I think this "just don't think like a victim and the world is your oyster" is a load of crap. |
fasttense |
Jan-17-07 01:43 PM |
#7 |
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Again, real victim isn't the same thing as victim mentality, you should read more carefully |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:44 PM |
#9 |
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people can read just fine, it's the OP that is poorly written |
pitohui |
Jan-17-07 01:55 PM |
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Well, since Im farther to the left than pretty much everyone here, |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:56 PM |
#16 |
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facts not in evidence, sorry |
pitohui |
Jan-17-07 01:58 PM |
#21 |
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OK, you need to re-read everything, because now you're just making shit up. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:59 PM |
#24 |
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You're so damn far to the left that you've made it all the way to the extreme right. |
Sapphire Blue |
Jan-17-07 02:01 PM |
#27 |
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Uh, no, this is a very liberal viewpoint. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:01 PM |
#28 |
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sounds a bit Ayn Rand-ian... maybe she was a liberal and we just didn't get it |
nashville_brook |
Jan-17-07 02:07 PM |
#46 |
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liberal not = left |
iverglas |
Jan-17-07 04:02 PM |
#136 |
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That is very well put |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 04:46 PM |
#155 |
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I didn't read a lot of the thread ... |
iverglas |
Jan-17-07 05:21 PM |
#159 |
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Exactly. Symbols have power. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 05:48 PM |
#164 |
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here's one to ponder |
iverglas |
Jan-17-07 06:29 PM |
#167 |
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self-deleted; it told me my post didn't work the first time (n/t) |
iverglas |
Jan-17-07 05:23 PM |
#160 |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA! |
Zhade |
Jan-17-07 03:04 PM |
#110 |
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Hmm, lets see. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:08 PM |
#113 |
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That is amazing! I had no idea we had clairvoyants on this board! |
Midlodemocrat |
Jan-17-07 03:45 PM |
#128 |
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Forgiveness is an act of personal change. n/t |
Dora |
Jan-17-07 02:04 PM |
#40 |
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And you should read my response more carefully. |
fasttense |
Jan-17-07 02:00 PM |
#25 |
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This is a good article, |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 01:50 PM |
#10 |
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Blacks do need to "get over" slavery. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:53 PM |
#11 |
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So that was the real point |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 01:59 PM |
#23 |
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You are, of course, totally wrong. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:00 PM |
#26 |
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Sorry that symbolic gestures are over yours...n/t |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:04 PM |
#38 |
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No, I am totally right |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 02:04 PM |
#39 |
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Slavery doesn't affect us? |
Connie_Corleone |
Jan-17-07 02:02 PM |
#30 |
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This may help you some with the family tree thing (congress to act on it): |
The Straight Story |
Jan-17-07 04:05 PM |
#137 |
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This post is one of the most offensive that I have ever read on this site. |
Sapphire Blue |
Jan-17-07 02:02 PM |
#32 |
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Then why are you replying here? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:04 PM |
#37 |
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Perhaps To Let You Know It Was Offensive? |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-17-07 02:29 PM |
#69 |
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Because this is where you posted your offensive crap. |
Sapphire Blue |
Jan-17-07 02:33 PM |
#73 |
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It's certainly up there. nt |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 02:16 PM |
#52 |
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I know you think the resolution is bullshit... |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:03 PM |
#33 |
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That might well be, I don't live there. I'll take your word for it. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:04 PM |
#41 |
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Let me guess - you're white, right? |
lukasahero |
Jan-17-07 02:39 PM |
#79 |
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Please keep the racism out of my thread, thanks. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:42 PM |
#84 |
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BWAAHAHA! |
lukasahero |
Jan-17-07 02:43 PM |
#85 |
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Nothing I've said is remotely racist. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:46 PM |
#88 |
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LOL! |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 02:43 PM |
#86 |
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Ah, I see we're back to this topic again: |
Kerrytravelers |
Jan-17-07 01:55 PM |
#14 |
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What a narrow view of history |
MadHound |
Jan-17-07 01:55 PM |
#15 |
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Great. Now, how does VA apologizing for slavery help? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 01:57 PM |
#20 |
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How does South Africa |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 02:04 PM |
#36 |
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And clearly, your articles is the definitive opinion that we must all subscribe to. |
Kerrytravelers |
Jan-17-07 02:06 PM |
#43 |
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Delusions of grandeur, indeed. |
Bunny |
Jan-17-07 03:51 PM |
#135 |
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This is how.. |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:12 PM |
#49 |
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Not exactly an answer to what I asked, but lemme go with it. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:16 PM |
#51 |
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Based on your false premise, it doesn't... |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:21 PM |
#59 |
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Um yeah, they are, read it: |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:25 PM |
#66 |
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Umm, you cherry-picked one line out of the resolution.. |
Virginia Dare |
Jan-17-07 02:51 PM |
#94 |
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that's an interesting point |
Bill McBlueState |
Jan-17-07 03:41 PM |
#124 |
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you have articles written by psychologists that clearly show it would hurt the situation? |
fishwax |
Jan-17-07 05:50 PM |
#165 |
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Well, first of all, I think that your two articles are POS, nothing personal |
MadHound |
Jan-17-07 02:24 PM |
#63 |
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got google? |
iverglas |
Jan-17-07 05:45 PM |
#162 |
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Agreed. Victimization encourages passivity. nt |
MookieWilson |
Jan-17-07 01:57 PM |
#19 |
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And frequently leads to behaviors that prevent further victimization. n/t |
fasttense |
Jan-17-07 02:02 PM |
#29 |
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Yes and no. Being a victim and being victimized are different. nt |
MookieWilson |
Jan-17-07 02:06 PM |
#44 |
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this thread is frizzy with split hairs |
nashville_brook |
Jan-17-07 02:09 PM |
#47 |
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True but you start out as a victim. |
fasttense |
Jan-17-07 02:14 PM |
#50 |
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Good post |
mongo |
Jan-17-07 02:19 PM |
#55 |
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And on the other hand, |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 02:33 PM |
#75 |
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My personal opinion? |
distantearlywarning |
Jan-17-07 02:19 PM |
#56 |
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I disagree. I think personal responsibility is not a right or left issue. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:23 PM |
#62 |
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have you read Wayward Puritans? |
iverglas |
Jan-17-07 05:35 PM |
#161 |
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Best post on the thread |
Mandate My Ass |
Jan-17-07 02:25 PM |
#65 |
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Nailed it. |
Marie26 |
Jan-17-07 02:28 PM |
#68 |
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Excellent post. Don't think you'll convince the OP, though. |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 02:31 PM |
#70 |
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You sure you're not a neocon? You just blamed me for shit I didn't say. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:36 PM |
#77 |
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Did you or did you not say black people have to get over slavery? |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 02:42 PM |
#81 |
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There are no victims of slavery. You claimed I said there were. Thats not true. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:44 PM |
#87 |
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You said blacks need to get over it. |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 02:50 PM |
#92 |
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Of course they do! They were never affected by it! |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:53 PM |
#97 |
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Where did that racism, intolerance and ignorance come from? |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 02:56 PM |
#102 |
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Look, I do understand your point, I'm not stupid. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:00 PM |
#106 |
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Can't change the past. But you can work to change its effect |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 03:08 PM |
#114 |
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Its very important that you address the actual issues, however. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:15 PM |
#116 |
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It's not as if |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 03:24 PM |
#117 |
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Actually, youre right, I shouldn't have implied the apology needed to wait. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:28 PM |
#120 |
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From your perspective it may seem like a waste of time. |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 03:39 PM |
#123 |
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I am a nit-picker by nature. Its just how I am. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:42 PM |
#125 |
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And that's not a bad attribute, generally speaking. |
Pithlet |
Jan-17-07 03:48 PM |
#130 |
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I think you have revised your point a little bit. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 03:45 PM |
#127 |
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Well, sorry, I just suck at writing. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:49 PM |
#132 |
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Oh, come on. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 04:11 PM |
#140 |
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None of that is true. but thanks for the accusation, that fosters discussion. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 04:12 PM |
#142 |
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See, there you go again, ignoring my point. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 04:20 PM |
#146 |
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WOW!!! |
Karenina |
Jan-17-07 04:17 PM |
#145 |
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You're not paying attention. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jan-17-07 03:50 PM |
#133 |
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DEEPLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION FOR VICTIMS OF CHILDHOOD ABUSE. |
dogindia |
Jan-17-07 02:26 PM |
#67 |
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Exactly. |
mongo |
Jan-17-07 09:33 PM |
#173 |
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Wow this sounds just like Michael Savages claims |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 02:33 PM |
#74 |
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I think the second article makes some interesting points, though I'm not sure how it relates |
fishwax |
Jan-17-07 02:35 PM |
#76 |
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Its because slavery is no longer the issue, prejudice and intolerance are. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:41 PM |
#80 |
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So then I take it you are willing to let George Bush |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 02:47 PM |
#89 |
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Of course not, are you crazy? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:48 PM |
#90 |
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It's your strawman I used, that bother you a little? |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 02:55 PM |
#99 |
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Bush is alive and can be held accountable. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:57 PM |
#104 |
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So as long as the person who kept your ancestors |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 03:07 PM |
#112 |
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The resolution in VA does. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:11 PM |
#115 |
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The resolution in Va, Donald McEachin, D-Henrico County. |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 03:29 PM |
#121 |
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they didn't emerge in a vacuum |
fishwax |
Jan-17-07 05:20 PM |
#158 |
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So have you actually read Sojourner Truth? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-17-07 02:42 PM |
#83 |
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Congratulations! |
DrunkenMaster |
Jan-17-07 02:49 PM |
#91 |
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Its not even remotely racist in the slightest. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:50 PM |
#93 |
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bullshite |
DrunkenMaster |
Jan-17-07 02:53 PM |
#96 |
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So, to you, talking about blacks in any way is racist? Hmm, sounds racist to me. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:54 PM |
#98 |
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what a stupid response |
DrunkenMaster |
Jan-17-07 03:00 PM |
#105 |
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No, it doesnt!! OMFG! Read everything! |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:02 PM |
#109 |
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Buuuullllshit! History is not static, it's a continuum. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-17-07 02:52 PM |
#95 |
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LMAO.. "History From A Self-Help" book |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 02:56 PM |
#103 |
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'Victim mentality' = code for GET OVER IT! nt |
Bluebear |
Jan-17-07 02:55 PM |
#100 |
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No its not, I actually said "Get over it" when I meant "Get over it" |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 02:56 PM |
#101 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-17-07 03:01 PM |
#108 |
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Can you provide actual examples of this so-called "entitlement" that the issue of slavery engenders? |
impeachdubya |
Jan-17-07 03:28 PM |
#119 |
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wait a sec... aren't you the one who says that Japan doesn't owe us an apology for Pearl Harbor? |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-07 03:45 PM |
#126 |
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They dont. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 03:47 PM |
#129 |
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Oh, gawd! You really don't understand the difference between a state and an individual person? |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-07 04:22 PM |
#147 |
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(... and by "undying" or "immortal", I mean *highly persistent*...) |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-07 04:33 PM |
#149 |
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Very well said. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 04:34 PM |
#151 |
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So, you're saying that entities never change? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 04:51 PM |
#156 |
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I suspect that you, sir, have at least one thing in common with George Bush. |
crispini |
Jan-17-07 03:48 PM |
#131 |
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Interesting opinion. |
Rex |
Jan-17-07 03:50 PM |
#134 |
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But slavery still does affect us today |
DireStrike |
Jan-17-07 04:07 PM |
#138 |
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I never said they werent related. I don't know where you get that from. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 04:09 PM |
#139 |
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Just a little jump in here: maybe the poster got the idea from your post |
blonndee |
Jan-17-07 04:12 PM |
#141 |
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Doesn't say it there, either. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-17-07 04:13 PM |
#143 |
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Or here, maybe. |
blonndee |
Jan-17-07 04:15 PM |
#144 |
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Cause and effect |
kwassa |
Jan-17-07 06:59 PM |
#170 |
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You should have posted this thread in the African American forum. |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-17-07 04:34 PM |
#150 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-17-07 04:39 PM |
#153 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-17-07 04:44 PM |
#154 |
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Dim bulb? Morons who don't get it? |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 05:18 PM |
#157 |
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Please don't give him any ideas |
Karenina |
Jan-17-07 05:52 PM |
#166 |
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even worse |
Madspirit |
Jan-17-07 04:36 PM |
#152 |
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There are MANY forms of discrimination |
Perragrande |
Jan-17-07 06:59 PM |
#171 |
| -
Yep |
BoneDaddy |
Jan-17-07 05:46 PM |
#163 |
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Yes it does.. |
walldude |
Jan-17-07 06:42 PM |
#168 |
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I include them as |
BoneDaddy |
Jan-17-07 09:04 PM |
#172 |
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Tangential yet relevant |
Book Lover |
Jan-17-07 06:47 PM |
#169 |
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here's an interesting one |
iverglas |
Jan-18-07 02:37 PM |
#174 |
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