| 146. It's your fucking arrogance in having |
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a hammerlock on the "Truth"!!!! You have an issue with certain belief systems that don't coincide with yours. Rational debate is one thing, but the vehemence of the responses to my little post is another. You are all so angry that I called YOUR belief system's validity into question, when, indeed, your beliefs are the absolute truth!
Nothing and I mean Nothing is for certain. Get that, Skippy, and you will have taken a giant step toward wisdom. Until then, you're just another spouting sophist with nothing but more opinions to back up your certitude.
MOreover, you still don't know where I stand on the issue.
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| -Liberal educated non-fundies accept evolution; conservative uneducated fundies don't |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 10:05 AM |
#0 |
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In other news... |
deadmessengers |
Jan-14-07 10:19 AM |
#1 |
  -
Hah! |
sakabatou |
Jan-14-07 10:15 PM |
#120 |
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Fearful people need to define God in order to feel safe. |
patrice |
Jan-14-07 10:37 AM |
#2 |
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Your short post says a lot! |
quantessd |
Jan-14-07 10:28 PM |
#123 |
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What I find interesting is the middle ground: fundie liberals, for example. |
SmokingJacket |
Jan-14-07 10:42 AM |
#3 |
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And yet we still have people using the word "fundie" to describe people who take our positions. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-16-07 11:23 AM |
#156 |
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So, how do we explain Bush? He has a Master's degree! |
young_at_heart |
Jan-14-07 10:56 AM |
#4 |
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I'll bet he does secretly believe in evolution but won't say so |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-15-07 05:04 PM |
#147 |
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So 14% of Grad School non-fundies don't believe in evolution? |
mainegreen |
Jan-14-07 10:56 AM |
#5 |
| -
I was caught by that too |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 12:39 PM |
#8 |
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And, of course, believe in the theory of gravity... |
krispos42 |
Jan-14-07 02:11 PM |
#18 |
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you mean "intelligent falling" |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:40 PM |
#40 |
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rotflmfwao! |
krispos42 |
Jan-14-07 02:54 PM |
#43 |
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Aye that's a major flaw in our language |
Conan_The_Barbarian |
Jan-14-07 03:56 PM |
#86 |
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"Believe" is only taken to mean "faith-based" by a small section of the populace. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-14-07 05:06 PM |
#92 |
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Evolution is fact, Darwinism is theory |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-14-07 10:08 PM |
#118 |
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Keep in mind: they still count low-objective-test-scoring fields such as education and journalism... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 12:48 PM |
#11 |
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And we all know how stupid teachers are |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 02:02 PM |
#14 |
| -
Yup. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:19 PM |
#24 |
| -
that link has no statics or anything quantifiable to support your hypothesis |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:04 PM |
#49 |
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That 'claim' has been going around since before you were born |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:10 PM |
#53 |
| -
yup |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:19 PM |
#59 |
| -
There are also bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad politicians, |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:22 PM |
#61 |
| -
Oh. When was I born? |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:42 PM |
#69 |
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Yesterday, apparently, since you don't even know your source is a RIGHTWING LIAR. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:45 PM |
#73 |
| -
lol - thanks for that piece of info. Thankfully the straight gre numbers can't lie. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:48 PM |
#78 |
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No, see, your argument has been defeated. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:50 PM |
#81 |
| -
what numbers? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:51 PM |
#82 |
| -
Sorry - was watching the football game. Ok, I whipped this up from ETS... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:01 PM |
#108 |
| -
she wasn't talking to you. n/t |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:46 PM |
#76 |
| -
Actually I wasn't talking to you |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 08:12 PM |
#112 |
| -
LOL!!! You don't like 1 link = game over. Must be a teacher. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:41 PM |
#68 |
| -
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:44 PM |
#71 |
| -
Not only that, the source is highly dubious. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:47 PM |
#77 |
| -
just saw that. LOL. |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:48 PM |
#79 |
| -
Your one link is to a LYING RIGHTWINGER, game over. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:46 PM |
#75 |
| -
Why are you buying lies from a rightwinger? |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:44 PM |
#70 |
| -
I'm going out on a limb here.... |
quantessd |
Jan-14-07 11:21 PM |
#124 |
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And now I feel like I'm a huge failure. |
quantessd |
Jan-15-07 12:51 AM |
#128 |
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but aren't you glad to see the support |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:21 PM |
#28 |
| -
And again with this "Teachers have low SAT / GRE scores crap" |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 02:59 PM |
#44 |
| -
besides which, I figure I'm bright enough to have figured out |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:04 PM |
#47 |
| -
Have a look at the ETS' numbers? (Just saw this thread pop back up) |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-15-07 12:03 PM |
#142 |
| -
Teachers don't have to grad school |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Jan-15-07 01:06 PM |
#145 |
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I'm writing this title and the first paragraph with an open mind, then I'll google. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-14-07 06:34 PM |
#96 |
| -
so, what's your take on the claim that |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 06:56 PM |
#99 |
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I doubt the first; the second needs more qualification but has some truth to it. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-15-07 06:17 AM |
#140 |
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(a) thus the conceptual interest in the bet I made (with myself, as it were)... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-16-07 06:54 PM |
#174 |
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"X are more Y than Z" without qualifiers means "All X are more Y than any Z". |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-16-07 07:32 PM |
#177 |
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"false"'/"invalid" isn't the same as "elliptical"/"enthymematic". |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-17-07 08:31 AM |
#179 |
| -
"That doctorates of Education have lower standards that PhDs." |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 07:45 PM |
#102 |
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No. |
JohnLocke |
Jan-14-07 07:58 PM |
#107 |
| -
PhDs in Education are PhDs |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 08:08 PM |
#111 |
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i have seen |
Perragrande |
Jan-15-07 02:55 AM |
#134 |
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Here's the ETS' numbers, if you find that helpful... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:03 PM |
#109 |
| -
excuse me, I will be going into education to TEACH biology |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:18 PM |
#22 |
| -
(shrug) Noted. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:20 PM |
#25 |
| -
Have you been here long enough to notice |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:15 PM |
#56 |
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bib didn't start honestly; the link is from a rightwing author. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:48 PM |
#80 |
| -
High Five!! |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 07:51 PM |
#105 |
| -
lol! error = lie only to education majors. And an admitted error.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:04 PM |
#110 |
| -
You lied about the GRE significance, as p2bl busted you on. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 08:38 PM |
#114 |
| -
Oops - replied in wrong sub-branch.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:43 PM |
#116 |
| -
I lied about nothing. You're welcome to continue repeating it though... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:40 PM |
#115 |
| -
Pelosi isn't 3rd in line for the Presidency? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-14-07 10:12 PM |
#119 |
| -
Note to self: Don't ever overestimate people. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 10:22 PM |
#121 |
| -
See post #125 you'll find I've replied to you in the 3rd person |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-15-07 02:58 AM |
#135 |
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Second...if you want to be anal about it. I'm sure you know that it goes |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-14-07 11:40 PM |
#125 |
| -
lol! Now the difference between 2nd and 3rd in line for the POTUS is being "anal".... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 11:59 PM |
#126 |
| -
First off, I was not mistaken. Second, you know that s/he knows what |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-15-07 12:05 AM |
#127 |
| -
(shrug) You're the one who said it was "anal". |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-15-07 12:56 AM |
#129 |
| -
Wow -you are really not very bright |
Reterr |
Jan-15-07 01:22 AM |
#130 |
| -
I was going to say second, but I didn't want to argue with his premise |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-15-07 02:54 AM |
#133 |
| -
let us know how the bet turns out. |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:22 PM |
#29 |
| -
LOL!! |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:23 PM |
#31 |
| -
just for fun, maybe I should pull something out of *my* ass and offer |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:33 PM |
#37 |
| -
I will - I just don't know offhand how to easily settle it.... Don't matter tho..... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:27 PM |
#34 |
| -
you're a real treat |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:32 PM |
#36 |
| -
I don't just the dumb ones, and those who don't want smarter ones. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:50 PM |
#41 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-14-07 03:08 PM |
#51 |
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(shrug) Blame the football game :) |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:39 PM |
#65 |
| -
oh, ok. |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:36 PM |
#38 |
| -
I'll take your word for it. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:50 PM |
#42 |
| -
no need for that. |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:02 PM |
#46 |
| -
you *are* going to do this, aren't you? |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:51 PM |
#83 |
| -
Good God man |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 05:22 PM |
#93 |
| -
And using lying rightwing nutjobs as "proof" is pretty, well, stupid! |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 06:39 PM |
#98 |
| -
Yup |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 08:20 PM |
#113 |
| -
Bwwwwaaaaahhhhh !!!!!!!! |
Kerrytravelers |
Jan-14-07 10:24 PM |
#122 |
| -
Yup |
nam78_two |
Jan-15-07 01:29 AM |
#131 |
| -
Do you have anything to back up your opinion? |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:09 PM |
#52 |
| -
Nope. Just the truth about gre scores. Well, and a jillion google links. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:40 PM |
#66 |
| -
LOL! |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:44 PM |
#72 |
| -
Um, no, your 'GRE truth' was debunked as a lie upthread. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:52 PM |
#84 |
| -
I am fascinated by you |
Reterr |
Jan-15-07 01:41 AM |
#132 |
| -
And your degree would be in what field? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:20 PM |
#60 |
| -
Which one? lol - doesn't matter - none of the three are in education - that's enough... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:40 PM |
#67 |
| -
It might be, once you actually present some credible evidence. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:55 PM |
#85 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-14-07 05:04 PM |
#91 |
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I kinda figured none were in education |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 07:49 PM |
#103 |
| -
Let me guess... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-16-07 04:47 PM |
#162 |
| -
I'm an education grad from an evangelical college. |
knitter4democracy |
Jan-14-07 05:53 PM |
#95 |
| -
Self-delete. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-16-07 11:18 AM |
#155 |
| -
I know a guy with a degree in Biology who doesn't believe in evolution. |
Marr |
Jan-14-07 03:33 PM |
#64 |
| -
Fundamentalist vs. Not |
quantessd |
Jan-14-07 11:12 AM |
#6 |
| -
Here is the ScienceBlogs link |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 02:17 PM |
#21 |
| -
A/As can't be included, as this graph plots the religious, not those lacking religion. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:10 PM |
#54 |
| -
How did they define fundamentalist? |
knitter4democracy |
Jan-14-07 12:34 PM |
#7 |
| -
Non-fundie "moderates" significantly dumber than their liberal counterparts.nt |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 12:41 PM |
#9 |
| -
That's because today's 'moderate' is yesterday's conservative. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:12 PM |
#55 |
| -
a friend and i, and our kids went thru a museum at our university. |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 12:44 PM |
#10 |
| -
Oh, well that explains EVERYTHING then...(refers to bold text below) |
badgerpup |
Jan-14-07 01:32 PM |
#12 |
| -
living in california i didnt come up against the fundamentalist. catholics, yes |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:04 PM |
#16 |
| -
that's tragic |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:25 PM |
#33 |
| -
"science isn't factual"? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 01:56 PM |
#13 |
| -
damn, that hurt to read |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:02 PM |
#15 |
| -
well, my SO's entire family & friends don't believe in evolution... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:15 PM |
#19 |
| -
it is the fundamentalist, i agree. and the answer, i told you.... science is theory |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:18 PM |
#23 |
| -
but by definition the tree rings are factual... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:21 PM |
#27 |
| -
that is why when i said what i did to friend, knowing it was there and we |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:30 PM |
#35 |
| -
smart IS a good thing-- good for you! |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:39 PM |
#39 |
| -
Good move. Laughing at people who believe insane shit is necessary. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:57 PM |
#87 |
| -
IMHO, I disagree. It's not necessary to laugh at people, unless they're fair game, |
pinto |
Jan-14-07 05:35 PM |
#94 |
| -
If they vote, I disagree - then they're trying to inflict their insanity on everyone. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 06:37 PM |
#97 |
| -
we are good friends. i told you she is smart. i laughed because it was funny |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 07:39 PM |
#100 |
| -
Only 57% of conservatives in grad school believe in evolution? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 02:04 PM |
#17 |
| -
welcome to America |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:16 PM |
#20 |
| -
An that's not just "conservatives," it's non-fundy conservatives |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 02:21 PM |
#26 |
| -
And only 86% of liberals in grad school believe in evolution |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-14-07 02:22 PM |
#30 |
| -
DU has a lot of sympathetic psuedoscience nuts |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:24 PM |
#32 |
| -
Yeah, I'm ignorant of "ID" and "new-wave shit" |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-14-07 03:07 PM |
#50 |
| -
I'll try... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:17 PM |
#57 |
| -
I am beginning to wonder about this poll |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:01 PM |
#45 |
| -
Here's the link: |
impeachdubya |
Jan-14-07 07:45 PM |
#101 |
| -
I'm in college and I could get by without a biology class if I wanted to |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-14-07 10:05 PM |
#117 |
| -
The damages of magical thinking, plotted out for all to see. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:04 PM |
#48 |
| -
Interesting graph |
Patchuli |
Jan-14-07 03:18 PM |
#58 |
| -
You would be on the non-fundy side |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 07:51 PM |
#104 |
| -
why get hung up |
nathan hale |
Jan-14-07 03:27 PM |
#62 |
| -
science isn't mythology |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:33 PM |
#63 |
| -
Can you imagine a fundie making the same statement? |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:48 AM |
#137 |
| -
I don't even know where to start with this post. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-14-07 03:45 PM |
#74 |
| -
Holy Mackerel! |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:53 AM |
#138 |
| -
The point is, trying to argue that science backed up by physical evidence is an equivalent "myth" |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 11:59 AM |
#141 |
| -
This is science versus mythlogy, not a war between equals. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 05:00 PM |
#89 |
| -
So, then... |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:57 AM |
#139 |
| -
You don't have to be an expert in Quantum Mechanics to know that evolution is a FACT. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 12:05 PM |
#143 |
| -
There. See? |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:15 PM |
#168 |
| -
Yes, but you don't get to the places where science is weird |
impeachdubya |
Jan-16-07 05:38 PM |
#170 |
| -
Ok... |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:58 PM |
#173 |
| -
There's a few things going on here. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-16-07 07:01 PM |
#175 |
| -
Here's the simple truth: |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 07:24 PM |
#176 |
| -
I'd disagree with a few things there. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-16-07 08:55 PM |
#178 |
| -
How very ignorant n/t |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-14-07 07:53 PM |
#106 |
| -
excuse me??? |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:45 AM |
#136 |
| -
"All I did was ask a question" No, you called evolution an equivalent mythology to creationism |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 12:35 PM |
#144 |
| -
It's your fucking arrogance in having |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 04:58 PM |
#146 |
| -
Would you consider the theory of gravity to be a mythology? |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-15-07 05:09 PM |
#148 |
| -
In no way is this about what I believe or don't believe |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:00 AM |
#151 |
| -
Postmodernist solipsistic crap sucks. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-16-07 11:10 AM |
#152 |
| -
So does nihilistic shallow dismissal. |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 04:53 PM |
#163 |
| -
Dismissal of the shallow is not in and of itself shallow n/t |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:56 PM |
#165 |
| -
Kelly, |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:46 PM |
#172 |
| -
Believe it or not, I really wasn\'t trying to be snide when... |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-16-07 01:34 PM |
#157 |
| -
You know? |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:00 PM |
#166 |
| -
I am a progressive because as Colbert states "reality has a well known liberal bias." |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-16-07 05:46 PM |
#171 |
| -
No scientist asserts absolute truth. |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:20 PM |
#160 |
| -
I don't think I have a hammerlock on "truth". I *DO* think it's idiotic to assert |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 07:11 PM |
#149 |
| -
it is for certain, earth is not 6000 yrs old. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-16-07 11:15 AM |
#153 |
| -
While I hate to break this to you, philosophy is worthless. |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:15 PM |
#159 |
| -
If you are attempting to persuade |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 04:41 PM |
#161 |
| -
I can tell by the reactions you have received |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:54 PM |
#164 |
| -
What, exactly, am I trying to persuade you of |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:07 PM |
#167 |
| -
Your question reveals a fundamental poverty of knowledge, |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:04 PM |
#158 |
| -
I just read a section from George Carlin's newest book |
Oregonian |
Jan-14-07 03:59 PM |
#88 |
| -
Hell, UFOs exist. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 05:03 PM |
#90 |
| -
UFOs exist on the same plane as strangers exist... |
Solon |
Jan-15-07 08:20 PM |
#150 |
| -
Twice as many conservitive fundamentalists believe in evolution if they have gone to grad school |
jsamuel |
Jan-16-07 11:17 AM |
#154 |
| -
I count myself in this group. |
eagler |
Jan-16-07 05:18 PM |
#169 |
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