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In the strict sense of the term, I mean, not that the "aliens among us" types exist.
Gods? No evidence whatsoever.
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| -Liberal educated non-fundies accept evolution; conservative uneducated fundies don't |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 10:05 AM |
#0 |
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In other news... |
deadmessengers |
Jan-14-07 10:19 AM |
#1 |
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Hah! |
sakabatou |
Jan-14-07 10:15 PM |
#120 |
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Fearful people need to define God in order to feel safe. |
patrice |
Jan-14-07 10:37 AM |
#2 |
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Your short post says a lot! |
quantessd |
Jan-14-07 10:28 PM |
#123 |
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What I find interesting is the middle ground: fundie liberals, for example. |
SmokingJacket |
Jan-14-07 10:42 AM |
#3 |
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And yet we still have people using the word "fundie" to describe people who take our positions. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-16-07 11:23 AM |
#156 |
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So, how do we explain Bush? He has a Master's degree! |
young_at_heart |
Jan-14-07 10:56 AM |
#4 |
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I'll bet he does secretly believe in evolution but won't say so |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-15-07 05:04 PM |
#147 |
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So 14% of Grad School non-fundies don't believe in evolution? |
mainegreen |
Jan-14-07 10:56 AM |
#5 |
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I was caught by that too |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 12:39 PM |
#8 |
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And, of course, believe in the theory of gravity... |
krispos42 |
Jan-14-07 02:11 PM |
#18 |
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you mean "intelligent falling" |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:40 PM |
#40 |
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rotflmfwao! |
krispos42 |
Jan-14-07 02:54 PM |
#43 |
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Aye that's a major flaw in our language |
Conan_The_Barbarian |
Jan-14-07 03:56 PM |
#86 |
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"Believe" is only taken to mean "faith-based" by a small section of the populace. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-14-07 05:06 PM |
#92 |
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Evolution is fact, Darwinism is theory |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-14-07 10:08 PM |
#118 |
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Keep in mind: they still count low-objective-test-scoring fields such as education and journalism... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 12:48 PM |
#11 |
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And we all know how stupid teachers are |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 02:02 PM |
#14 |
| -
Yup. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:19 PM |
#24 |
| -
that link has no statics or anything quantifiable to support your hypothesis |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:04 PM |
#49 |
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That 'claim' has been going around since before you were born |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:10 PM |
#53 |
| -
yup |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:19 PM |
#59 |
| -
There are also bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad politicians, |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:22 PM |
#61 |
| -
Oh. When was I born? |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:42 PM |
#69 |
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Yesterday, apparently, since you don't even know your source is a RIGHTWING LIAR. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:45 PM |
#73 |
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lol - thanks for that piece of info. Thankfully the straight gre numbers can't lie. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:48 PM |
#78 |
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No, see, your argument has been defeated. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:50 PM |
#81 |
| -
what numbers? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:51 PM |
#82 |
| -
Sorry - was watching the football game. Ok, I whipped this up from ETS... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:01 PM |
#108 |
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she wasn't talking to you. n/t |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:46 PM |
#76 |
| -
Actually I wasn't talking to you |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 08:12 PM |
#112 |
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LOL!!! You don't like 1 link = game over. Must be a teacher. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:41 PM |
#68 |
| -
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:44 PM |
#71 |
| -
Not only that, the source is highly dubious. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:47 PM |
#77 |
| -
just saw that. LOL. |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:48 PM |
#79 |
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Your one link is to a LYING RIGHTWINGER, game over. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:46 PM |
#75 |
| -
Why are you buying lies from a rightwinger? |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:44 PM |
#70 |
| -
I'm going out on a limb here.... |
quantessd |
Jan-14-07 11:21 PM |
#124 |
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And now I feel like I'm a huge failure. |
quantessd |
Jan-15-07 12:51 AM |
#128 |
| -
but aren't you glad to see the support |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:21 PM |
#28 |
| -
And again with this "Teachers have low SAT / GRE scores crap" |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 02:59 PM |
#44 |
| -
besides which, I figure I'm bright enough to have figured out |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:04 PM |
#47 |
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Have a look at the ETS' numbers? (Just saw this thread pop back up) |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-15-07 12:03 PM |
#142 |
| -
Teachers don't have to grad school |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Jan-15-07 01:06 PM |
#145 |
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I'm writing this title and the first paragraph with an open mind, then I'll google. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-14-07 06:34 PM |
#96 |
| -
so, what's your take on the claim that |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 06:56 PM |
#99 |
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I doubt the first; the second needs more qualification but has some truth to it. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-15-07 06:17 AM |
#140 |
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(a) thus the conceptual interest in the bet I made (with myself, as it were)... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-16-07 06:54 PM |
#174 |
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"X are more Y than Z" without qualifiers means "All X are more Y than any Z". |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-16-07 07:32 PM |
#177 |
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"false"'/"invalid" isn't the same as "elliptical"/"enthymematic". |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-17-07 08:31 AM |
#179 |
| -
"That doctorates of Education have lower standards that PhDs." |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 07:45 PM |
#102 |
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No. |
JohnLocke |
Jan-14-07 07:58 PM |
#107 |
| -
PhDs in Education are PhDs |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 08:08 PM |
#111 |
| -
i have seen |
Perragrande |
Jan-15-07 02:55 AM |
#134 |
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Here's the ETS' numbers, if you find that helpful... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:03 PM |
#109 |
| -
excuse me, I will be going into education to TEACH biology |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:18 PM |
#22 |
| -
(shrug) Noted. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:20 PM |
#25 |
| -
Have you been here long enough to notice |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:15 PM |
#56 |
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bib didn't start honestly; the link is from a rightwing author. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:48 PM |
#80 |
| -
High Five!! |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 07:51 PM |
#105 |
| -
lol! error = lie only to education majors. And an admitted error.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:04 PM |
#110 |
| -
You lied about the GRE significance, as p2bl busted you on. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 08:38 PM |
#114 |
| -
Oops - replied in wrong sub-branch.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:43 PM |
#116 |
| -
I lied about nothing. You're welcome to continue repeating it though... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 08:40 PM |
#115 |
| -
Pelosi isn't 3rd in line for the Presidency? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-14-07 10:12 PM |
#119 |
| -
Note to self: Don't ever overestimate people. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 10:22 PM |
#121 |
| -
See post #125 you'll find I've replied to you in the 3rd person |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-15-07 02:58 AM |
#135 |
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Second...if you want to be anal about it. I'm sure you know that it goes |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-14-07 11:40 PM |
#125 |
| -
lol! Now the difference between 2nd and 3rd in line for the POTUS is being "anal".... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 11:59 PM |
#126 |
| -
First off, I was not mistaken. Second, you know that s/he knows what |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-15-07 12:05 AM |
#127 |
| -
(shrug) You're the one who said it was "anal". |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-15-07 12:56 AM |
#129 |
| -
Wow -you are really not very bright |
Reterr |
Jan-15-07 01:22 AM |
#130 |
| -
I was going to say second, but I didn't want to argue with his premise |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-15-07 02:54 AM |
#133 |
| -
let us know how the bet turns out. |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:22 PM |
#29 |
| -
LOL!! |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:23 PM |
#31 |
| -
just for fun, maybe I should pull something out of *my* ass and offer |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:33 PM |
#37 |
| -
I will - I just don't know offhand how to easily settle it.... Don't matter tho..... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:27 PM |
#34 |
| -
you're a real treat |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:32 PM |
#36 |
| -
I don't just the dumb ones, and those who don't want smarter ones. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:50 PM |
#41 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-14-07 03:08 PM |
#51 |
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(shrug) Blame the football game :) |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:39 PM |
#65 |
| -
oh, ok. |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 02:36 PM |
#38 |
| -
I'll take your word for it. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 02:50 PM |
#42 |
| -
no need for that. |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:02 PM |
#46 |
| -
you *are* going to do this, aren't you? |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:51 PM |
#83 |
| -
Good God man |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 05:22 PM |
#93 |
| -
And using lying rightwing nutjobs as "proof" is pretty, well, stupid! |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 06:39 PM |
#98 |
| -
Yup |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 08:20 PM |
#113 |
| -
Bwwwwaaaaahhhhh !!!!!!!! |
Kerrytravelers |
Jan-14-07 10:24 PM |
#122 |
| -
Yup |
nam78_two |
Jan-15-07 01:29 AM |
#131 |
| -
Do you have anything to back up your opinion? |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:09 PM |
#52 |
| -
Nope. Just the truth about gre scores. Well, and a jillion google links. |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:40 PM |
#66 |
| -
LOL! |
ulysses |
Jan-14-07 03:44 PM |
#72 |
| -
Um, no, your 'GRE truth' was debunked as a lie upthread. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:52 PM |
#84 |
| -
I am fascinated by you |
Reterr |
Jan-15-07 01:41 AM |
#132 |
| -
And your degree would be in what field? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:20 PM |
#60 |
| -
Which one? lol - doesn't matter - none of the three are in education - that's enough... |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-14-07 03:40 PM |
#67 |
| -
It might be, once you actually present some credible evidence. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:55 PM |
#85 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-14-07 05:04 PM |
#91 |
| -
I kinda figured none were in education |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 07:49 PM |
#103 |
| -
Let me guess... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-16-07 04:47 PM |
#162 |
| -
I'm an education grad from an evangelical college. |
knitter4democracy |
Jan-14-07 05:53 PM |
#95 |
| -
Self-delete. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-16-07 11:18 AM |
#155 |
| -
I know a guy with a degree in Biology who doesn't believe in evolution. |
Marr |
Jan-14-07 03:33 PM |
#64 |
| -
Fundamentalist vs. Not |
quantessd |
Jan-14-07 11:12 AM |
#6 |
| -
Here is the ScienceBlogs link |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 02:17 PM |
#21 |
| -
A/As can't be included, as this graph plots the religious, not those lacking religion. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:10 PM |
#54 |
| -
How did they define fundamentalist? |
knitter4democracy |
Jan-14-07 12:34 PM |
#7 |
| -
Non-fundie "moderates" significantly dumber than their liberal counterparts.nt |
Reterr |
Jan-14-07 12:41 PM |
#9 |
| -
That's because today's 'moderate' is yesterday's conservative. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:12 PM |
#55 |
| -
a friend and i, and our kids went thru a museum at our university. |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 12:44 PM |
#10 |
| -
Oh, well that explains EVERYTHING then...(refers to bold text below) |
badgerpup |
Jan-14-07 01:32 PM |
#12 |
| -
living in california i didnt come up against the fundamentalist. catholics, yes |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:04 PM |
#16 |
| -
that's tragic |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:25 PM |
#33 |
| -
"science isn't factual"? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 01:56 PM |
#13 |
| -
damn, that hurt to read |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:02 PM |
#15 |
| -
well, my SO's entire family & friends don't believe in evolution... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:15 PM |
#19 |
| -
it is the fundamentalist, i agree. and the answer, i told you.... science is theory |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:18 PM |
#23 |
| -
but by definition the tree rings are factual... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:21 PM |
#27 |
| -
that is why when i said what i did to friend, knowing it was there and we |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 02:30 PM |
#35 |
| -
smart IS a good thing-- good for you! |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:39 PM |
#39 |
| -
Good move. Laughing at people who believe insane shit is necessary. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:57 PM |
#87 |
| -
IMHO, I disagree. It's not necessary to laugh at people, unless they're fair game, |
pinto |
Jan-14-07 05:35 PM |
#94 |
| -
If they vote, I disagree - then they're trying to inflict their insanity on everyone. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 06:37 PM |
#97 |
| -
we are good friends. i told you she is smart. i laughed because it was funny |
seabeyond |
Jan-14-07 07:39 PM |
#100 |
| -
Only 57% of conservatives in grad school believe in evolution? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 02:04 PM |
#17 |
| -
welcome to America |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:16 PM |
#20 |
| -
An that's not just "conservatives," it's non-fundy conservatives |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 02:21 PM |
#26 |
| -
And only 86% of liberals in grad school believe in evolution |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-14-07 02:22 PM |
#30 |
| -
DU has a lot of sympathetic psuedoscience nuts |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 02:24 PM |
#32 |
| -
Yeah, I'm ignorant of "ID" and "new-wave shit" |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-14-07 03:07 PM |
#50 |
| -
I'll try... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:17 PM |
#57 |
| -
I am beginning to wonder about this poll |
proud2Blib |
Jan-14-07 03:01 PM |
#45 |
| -
Here's the link: |
impeachdubya |
Jan-14-07 07:45 PM |
#101 |
| -
I'm in college and I could get by without a biology class if I wanted to |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-14-07 10:05 PM |
#117 |
| -
The damages of magical thinking, plotted out for all to see. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 03:04 PM |
#48 |
| -
Interesting graph |
Patchuli |
Jan-14-07 03:18 PM |
#58 |
| -
You would be on the non-fundy side |
DinoBoy |
Jan-14-07 07:51 PM |
#104 |
| -
why get hung up |
nathan hale |
Jan-14-07 03:27 PM |
#62 |
| -
science isn't mythology |
WindRavenX |
Jan-14-07 03:33 PM |
#63 |
| -
Can you imagine a fundie making the same statement? |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:48 AM |
#137 |
| -
I don't even know where to start with this post. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-14-07 03:45 PM |
#74 |
| -
Holy Mackerel! |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:53 AM |
#138 |
| -
The point is, trying to argue that science backed up by physical evidence is an equivalent "myth" |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 11:59 AM |
#141 |
| -
This is science versus mythlogy, not a war between equals. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 05:00 PM |
#89 |
| -
So, then... |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:57 AM |
#139 |
| -
You don't have to be an expert in Quantum Mechanics to know that evolution is a FACT. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 12:05 PM |
#143 |
| -
There. See? |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:15 PM |
#168 |
| -
Yes, but you don't get to the places where science is weird |
impeachdubya |
Jan-16-07 05:38 PM |
#170 |
| -
Ok... |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:58 PM |
#173 |
| -
There's a few things going on here. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-16-07 07:01 PM |
#175 |
| -
Here's the simple truth: |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 07:24 PM |
#176 |
| -
I'd disagree with a few things there. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-16-07 08:55 PM |
#178 |
| -
How very ignorant n/t |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-14-07 07:53 PM |
#106 |
| -
excuse me??? |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 03:45 AM |
#136 |
| -
"All I did was ask a question" No, you called evolution an equivalent mythology to creationism |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 12:35 PM |
#144 |
| -
It's your fucking arrogance in having |
nathan hale |
Jan-15-07 04:58 PM |
#146 |
| -
Would you consider the theory of gravity to be a mythology? |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-15-07 05:09 PM |
#148 |
| -
In no way is this about what I believe or don't believe |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:00 AM |
#151 |
| -
Postmodernist solipsistic crap sucks. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-16-07 11:10 AM |
#152 |
| -
So does nihilistic shallow dismissal. |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 04:53 PM |
#163 |
| -
Dismissal of the shallow is not in and of itself shallow n/t |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:56 PM |
#165 |
| -
Kelly, |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:46 PM |
#172 |
| -
Believe it or not, I really wasn\'t trying to be snide when... |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-16-07 01:34 PM |
#157 |
| -
You know? |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:00 PM |
#166 |
| -
I am a progressive because as Colbert states "reality has a well known liberal bias." |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-16-07 05:46 PM |
#171 |
| -
No scientist asserts absolute truth. |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:20 PM |
#160 |
| -
I don't think I have a hammerlock on "truth". I *DO* think it's idiotic to assert |
impeachdubya |
Jan-15-07 07:11 PM |
#149 |
| -
it is for certain, earth is not 6000 yrs old. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-16-07 11:15 AM |
#153 |
| -
While I hate to break this to you, philosophy is worthless. |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:15 PM |
#159 |
| -
If you are attempting to persuade |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 04:41 PM |
#161 |
| -
I can tell by the reactions you have received |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:54 PM |
#164 |
| -
What, exactly, am I trying to persuade you of |
nathan hale |
Jan-16-07 05:07 PM |
#167 |
| -
Your question reveals a fundamental poverty of knowledge, |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-16-07 04:04 PM |
#158 |
| -
I just read a section from George Carlin's newest book |
Oregonian |
Jan-14-07 03:59 PM |
#88 |
| -
Hell, UFOs exist. |
Zhade |
Jan-14-07 05:03 PM |
#90 |
| -
UFOs exist on the same plane as strangers exist... |
Solon |
Jan-15-07 08:20 PM |
#150 |
| -
Twice as many conservitive fundamentalists believe in evolution if they have gone to grad school |
jsamuel |
Jan-16-07 11:17 AM |
#154 |
| -
I count myself in this group. |
eagler |
Jan-16-07 05:18 PM |
#169 |
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