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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:32 PM
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13. N.I.E.
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  -John Edwards: "I was completely wrong." aquart  Jan-10-07 11:17 PM   #0 
  - as he said, not the 1st time he said that  LSK   Jan-10-07 11:18 PM   #1 
  - John Edwards: "This is not the first time I've said it."  Nicole   Jan-10-07 11:19 PM   #2 
  - He's halfway there  rocknation   Jan-10-07 11:20 PM   #3 
  - no, hes all the way there  LSK   Jan-10-07 11:22 PM   #5 
  - I don't think he's quite "all the way there"  MathGuy   Jan-11-07 09:11 AM   #65 
  - Bush lied, yep  sandnsea   Jan-10-07 11:48 PM   #23 
  - Please.  Lance_Boyle   Jan-11-07 09:55 AM   #67 
  - ditto  mdmc   Jan-11-07 10:05 AM   #70 
  - They voted for it. He sponsored it. Big difference. nt  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 01:07 PM   #88 
  - Not the direction he is going - he says Bush didn't mislead them and that is politics  karynnj   Jan-11-07 05:34 PM   #111 
  - I think he's the most conservative Democrat I like.  porphyrian   Jan-10-07 11:21 PM   #4 
  - he's not conservative  DaveinMD   Jan-10-07 11:28 PM   #8 
     - That doesn't change my position much. - n/t  porphyrian   Jan-10-07 11:29 PM   #11 
     - Then why was he a member of the DLC?  Clark2008   Jan-11-07 05:47 AM   #48 
     - lots of people were  DaveinMD   Jan-11-07 07:51 AM   #54 
     - drug war, death penalty, bankruptcy, nclb, clean skies  mdmc   Jan-11-07 10:06 AM   #71 
  - Yes, he was wrong  Pastiche423   Jan-10-07 11:24 PM   #6 
  - Or he could be a great progressive who was deceived...  stevietheman   Jan-10-07 11:33 PM   #14 
  - Deceived?  Pastiche423   Jan-10-07 11:40 PM   #18 
  - did you have access to a classified FALSE NIE???  LSK   Jan-10-07 11:42 PM   #21 
     - I'm glad Edwards has addmitted his mistake fully  fujiyama   Jan-10-07 11:46 PM   #22 
     - Half the Intelligence Committee voted No  WesDem   Jan-11-07 05:53 AM   #50 
        - Good point  fujiyama   Jan-11-07 05:13 PM   #106 
     - Anyone that believed little lord pissypants  Pastiche423   Jan-10-07 11:48 PM   #24 
     - I didn't need to see it  mdmc   Jan-11-07 10:08 AM   #72 
     - did you need to?  GreenArrow   Jan-11-07 01:57 PM   #97 
  - But WHY was he deceived?  Zhade   Jan-10-07 11:41 PM   #20 
  - I almost hate to say this, but...  stevietheman   Jan-11-07 12:50 AM   #36 
  - At the time it wasn't hard to be fooled  wryter2000   Jan-11-07 01:05 PM   #86 
  - How can you compare the constituencies of...  Virginia Dare   Jan-11-07 08:35 AM   #56 
     - so he was deceived because of his constituency?  fishwax   Jan-11-07 05:32 PM   #109 
        - No, he has a completely different consituency than those three...  Virginia Dare   Jan-11-07 06:08 PM   #116 
  - Nope, he said he was not deceived  sandnsea   Jan-10-07 11:50 PM   #26 
  - I am not a supporter or opponent of John Edwards, but you've been deceived  DFLer4edu   Jan-11-07 01:19 AM   #38 
  - Bad judgment or incredible lack of information  Jacobin   Jan-11-07 05:55 AM   #51 
  - So, which of the following are running for pres '08?  Chulanowa   Jan-11-07 07:02 AM   #53 
  - Our choices  michaelwb   Jan-11-07 08:33 AM   #55 
  - WTF?  Pastiche423   Jan-11-07 01:26 PM   #90 
  - Then I guess you wouldn't have voted for RFK  Nedsdag   Jan-11-07 08:54 AM   #62 
     - This thread is not about the Viet Nam war  Pastiche423   Jan-11-07 01:29 PM   #91 
  - Admitting mistakes does not make one appear weak. ADULTS know this.  dicksteele   Jan-10-07 11:25 PM   #7 
  - I don't believe most Americans do  WannaJumpMyScooter   Jan-10-07 11:28 PM   #9 
  - No - but neither does admitting to co-sponsoring one of the  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 03:21 AM   #43 
     - Agreed. nm  dicksteele   Jan-11-07 10:30 AM   #76 
  - It would be interesting to find out why he voted for it in the first place.  The_Casual_Observer   Jan-10-07 11:28 PM   #10 
  - N.I.E.  LSK   Jan-10-07 11:32 PM   #13 
  - A casual reading of the news at the time allowed the average joe  The_Casual_Observer   Jan-10-07 11:53 PM   #31 
  - if the nie confirmed nukes  mdmc   Jan-11-07 10:12 AM   #73 
  - He was conned. It's pretty obvious that his understanding of our foreign policy has improved greatly  w4rma   Jan-10-07 11:40 PM   #19 
  - that level of naivete does not qualify him for higher office.  tomp   Jan-11-07 12:01 AM   #34 
     - That's been my argument against Hillary.  aquart   Jan-11-07 02:22 AM   #39 
        - It's been over three years. That's enough time to get a college degree. It no longer applies.  w4rma   Jan-11-07 02:31 AM   #40 
  - Or better yet, why he sponsored it. nt  mycritters2   Jan-10-07 11:53 PM   #29 
  - He co-sponsored it  sandnsea   Jan-10-07 11:53 PM   #30 
     - Sen. Kerry voted for it. He really should have known better. I can't believe you're using that vote  w4rma   Jan-11-07 02:34 AM   #41 
        - He knows Bush lied  sandnsea   Jan-11-07 06:54 AM   #52 
        - I have a problem with that  mdmc   Jan-11-07 10:16 AM   #74 
           - January 2003  sandnsea   Jan-11-07 11:13 AM   #80 
              - again, Kerry didn't take it to the streets  mdmc   Jan-11-07 11:21 AM   #81 
                 - I'm talking about the Bush lies  sandnsea   Jan-11-07 02:44 PM   #98 
                 - got ya  mdmc   Jan-11-07 03:24 PM   #99 
                 - He gave the speech the Sandasea mentioned  karynnj   Jan-11-07 05:54 PM   #113 
                 - no, but our party would have been solidly antiwar  mdmc   Jan-11-07 06:16 PM   #119 
                    - The party would still have been split - with the center hard to hold  karynnj   Jan-11-07 06:45 PM   #120 
                 - The reason he went to law school was so he could better fight for the little guy. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-12-07 02:28 AM   #121 
        - Kerry voted for it. Edwards sponsored it.  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 10:53 AM   #78 
           - Not really. They both defended their votes, except Edwards stopped and Kerry is still defending.(nt)  w4rma   Jan-11-07 06:06 PM   #115 
  - You know, politics is new to me  Just-plain-Kathy   Jan-10-07 11:30 PM   #12 
  - If you think back to the 2001-2003 time frame  Elwood P Dowd   Jan-10-07 11:35 PM   #15 
  - wow, someone else on DU remembers 2002  LSK   Jan-10-07 11:36 PM   #16 
  - And WE Were All Leftiest Commies Too! n/t  ChiciB1   Jan-10-07 11:56 PM   #32 
  - Heh, I'm a pinko commie San Francisco-value liberal and goddamn proud!  NYC Liberal   Jan-11-07 03:55 AM   #45 
     - You Should Be Allowed To Be Wahtever You Want....  ChiciB1   Jan-11-07 09:47 AM   #66 
        - I loathe the man as well!  NYC Liberal   Jan-11-07 10:01 AM   #68 
           - I Was Against The Idiot BEFORE 2000! There Was A Lot Of Information  ChiciB1   Jan-11-07 11:25 AM   #83 
  - I remember how horrible it was back then,  Just-plain-Kathy   Jan-10-07 11:56 PM   #33 
  - I agree  Elwood P Dowd   Jan-11-07 12:07 AM   #35 
  - Cheneys plan of world domination during the 04 elections  WesDem   Jan-11-07 05:44 AM   #47 
  - You're exactly correct  loyalsister   Jan-11-07 12:59 AM   #37 
  - that lack of courage was very sickening  mdmc   Jan-11-07 10:19 AM   #75 
  - I wish more of our leaders had stood up to those charges  fishwax   Jan-11-07 05:40 PM   #112 
  - I completely understand your points, and agree with you.  bobbolink   Jan-10-07 11:36 PM   #17 
  - Plenty of people are working on Poverty  karynnj   Jan-11-07 06:09 PM   #118 
     - IMO, on an issue like povery, talking about it is a big deal  Hippo_Tron   Jan-12-07 03:13 AM   #122 
  - I don't think it's really about the trust - it's about the political ambitions.  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 03:44 PM   #101 
  - They're good words to hear.  Zhade   Jan-10-07 11:48 PM   #25 
  - I know he's sincere. He came up to support Lamont.  Nutmegger   Jan-10-07 11:50 PM   #27 
  - Vote?!! It was more than a vote!!! He sponsored it!!!  mycritters2   Jan-10-07 11:51 PM   #28 
  - So someone can co-sponsor what many are calling the  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 03:18 AM   #42 
  - Because he is working so hard for poor folk, when the rest of the Dems  bobbolink   Jan-11-07 03:33 AM   #44 
     - Didn't he take up the plight of the poor AFTER running for  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 08:41 AM   #58 
     - I figured, from your snarky tone, it wouldn't matter to you.  bobbolink   Jan-11-07 09:01 AM   #64 
     - Edwards sure doesn't bring out my warm and fuzzy side.  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 04:01 PM   #104 
     - Actually, he was talking class issues in his 2004 primary campaign.  QC   Jan-11-07 10:03 AM   #69 
        - Let me clarify. After he BEGAN running for president. Wasn't he  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 03:40 PM   #100 
     - It's mostly poor folk dying in Iraq. That's how much he cares. nt  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 10:54 AM   #79 
        - To a large extent, yes. But his caring goes much beyond that.  bobbolink   Jan-11-07 11:57 AM   #85 
           - The war is the most important issue.  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 01:05 PM   #87 
              - Well, to those of us who are in danger of going extinct, it's very important.  bobbolink   Jan-11-07 01:09 PM   #89 
                 - 460 Billion dollars wasted, that could have gone to social programs  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 01:30 PM   #92 
                    - YEs, dearie... AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE DOING POVERTY WORK NOW!!  bobbolink   Jan-11-07 01:38 PM   #93 
                       - I'm interested  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 01:45 PM   #94 
                          - If you were "interested", you wouldn't be so anxious to bash and  bobbolink   Jan-11-07 01:49 PM   #95 
                             - I'm speaking to you as an equal.  mycritters2   Jan-11-07 01:51 PM   #96 
  - Good for Edwards!  TheGoldenRule   Jan-11-07 04:15 AM   #46 
  - As someone who has heard him explain in person  mmonk   Jan-11-07 05:48 AM   #49 
  - I wonder if the rest of the pissed of world will think an "I'm sorry"  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 08:42 AM   #59 
     - Depends if his actions make them feel at ease.  mmonk   Jan-11-07 08:52 AM   #61 
  - still lovin the drug war and death penalty though right?  mdmc   Jan-11-07 08:37 AM   #57 
  - Howard Dean was right though  bambino   Jan-11-07 08:47 AM   #60 
  - I like JE, but as someone who marched against the Illegal Invasion prior to it,  WinkyDink   Jan-11-07 08:55 AM   #63 
  - You should run for office!  Lex   Jan-11-07 11:23 AM   #82 
  - I wouldn't support him otherwise  ZombyWoof   Jan-11-07 10:46 AM   #77 
  - I agree that Edwards was wrong, and I would like to see true atonement for his actions  FrenchieCat   Jan-11-07 11:41 AM   #84 
  - Wow, a politician that can admit to being wrong.  Rex   Jan-11-07 03:45 PM   #102 
  - A politician who admits he's wrong when the polls turn against  Skwmom   Jan-11-07 03:59 PM   #103 
  - I'm glad he admitted he was wrong.  EdwardM   Jan-11-07 04:04 PM   #105 
  - He Admits His Mistakes - That takes guts and...  Triana   Jan-11-07 05:19 PM   #107 
  - I would prefer if he admitted why he was wrong.  bluewave   Jan-11-07 05:22 PM   #108 
     - interesting how that is missing from his "apology,"  GreenArrow   Jan-11-07 06:09 PM   #117 
  - It's easy to admit you're wrong now  Lord Byron   Jan-11-07 05:34 PM   #110 
  - John Edwards is making a great spokesman these days for our party.  David Zephyr   Jan-11-07 05:57 PM   #114 
 

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