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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:43 PM
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91. One of the predictions is that in a few years Whites will be a
minority not a majority... this is your first glimpse of that

The question then comes will we have diversity when this happens
or a majority who wins
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  -41% of the undergraduate population at Cal-Berkley is Asian AngryAmish  Jan-08-07 02:47 PM   #0 
  - Better get this out to Hannity ASAP!  stonecoldsober   Jan-08-07 02:51 PM   #1 
  - That was unnecessary  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-08-07 05:01 PM   #26 
     - You can't understand sarcasm? That is simplistic.  stonecoldsober   Jan-08-07 10:34 PM   #46 
        - Sorry, but sarcasm is best understood by me vocally  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-09-07 07:23 PM   #88 
           - Well, I'm sorry I forgot to use the  stonecoldsober   Jan-10-07 09:36 AM   #95 
  - where's the controversy?  aein   Jan-08-07 02:52 PM   #2 
  - Asian parents keep their children in school 24/7.  aquart   Jan-08-07 02:52 PM   #3 
  - stereotype?  aein   Jan-08-07 02:59 PM   #4 
     - I Forgot The Name Of The Movie  DemocratSinceBirth   Jan-08-07 03:33 PM   #12 
     - It was a very well done movie (if not exaggerated):  ellisonz   Jan-08-07 05:32 PM   #32 
        - I saw that a while back  fujiyama   Jan-08-07 05:48 PM   #34 
           - Wasn't Crash A MTV Film?  DemocratSinceBirth   Jan-08-07 06:35 PM   #41 
              - Maybe...  fujiyama   Jan-08-07 06:43 PM   #44 
                 - Napolean Dynamite  AngryAmish   Jan-09-07 11:06 AM   #76 
     - I grew up around Asians and I have many Asian friends  XemaSab   Jan-08-07 05:27 PM   #30 
        - wait a minute  northzax   Jan-09-07 11:03 AM   #73 
        - I heard Dr. Henry Lee speak a few years back...  NewJeffCT   Jan-09-07 11:03 AM   #74 
        - Hell, I taught in a high school in Hong Kong...  Dorian Gray   Jan-09-07 11:38 AM   #78 
  - Far higher percentage in the college of engineering.  TNDemo   Jan-08-07 03:13 PM   #5 
  - Indians are Asian  NewJeffCT   Jan-09-07 11:07 AM   #77 
     - apparently we're not...  fhqwhgads   Jan-09-07 02:12 PM   #79 
     - Yes, you're right.  TNDemo   Jan-09-07 03:47 PM   #86 
     - Indians are technically caucasians  burythehatchet   Jan-09-07 03:51 PM   #87 
  - Guess my white kids will have to work a little harder to keep up.  SmokingJacket   Jan-08-07 03:17 PM   #6 
  - SAD YOU FEEL SO MUCH FEAR  YEBBA   Jan-08-07 03:24 PM   #7 
  - Dude, easy on the yelling  AngryAmish   Jan-08-07 03:54 PM   #16 
  - My son, who is 18, is half-Asian and waiting to hear on his  pampango   Jan-08-07 04:11 PM   #17 
  - The challenge of affirmative action as a means to eliminate poverty  XemaSab   Jan-08-07 05:29 PM   #31 
     - And yet the University of Michigan discriminates against Asians,  pampango   Jan-09-07 08:28 AM   #68 
  - they don't have caps lock keys at Cal?  northzax   Jan-09-07 11:04 AM   #75 
  - I'm just not a fan of segregation, self imposed or not.  djohnson   Jan-08-07 03:25 PM   #8 
  - Not segregation  Mikey929   Jan-08-07 03:40 PM   #13 
     - The article mentions “selective self-racial segregation”  djohnson   Jan-08-07 04:14 PM   #19 
     - There are two seperate issues with regards to diversity  fujiyama   Jan-08-07 05:59 PM   #35 
     - The kids with the best grades are getting into the school  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-08-07 05:15 PM   #27 
     - It's not just Asians doing this.  fujiyama   Jan-08-07 06:01 PM   #36 
        - That is true  NewJeffCT   Jan-09-07 08:20 AM   #67 
        - I agree with that  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-09-07 07:26 PM   #89 
     - but you don't just want the ones with the best grades  Bill McBlueState   Jan-09-07 02:20 PM   #80 
  - There Are Other Factors As Well  Yavin4   Jan-08-07 03:29 PM   #9 
  - 'Throw Away Society'  djohnson   Jan-08-07 03:31 PM   #11 
  - I was watching a Sean Hannity  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-08-07 05:22 PM   #29 
  - Parental expectation is the key  musiclawyer   Jan-08-07 03:31 PM   #10 
  - I would call it parental obsession.  Porcupine   Jan-08-07 04:11 PM   #18 
  - Immigrants have traditionally valued education more than  pampango   Jan-08-07 04:35 PM   #22 
  - good call on the midwestern laid-back attitude  Bill McBlueState   Jan-09-07 02:25 PM   #82 
  - I'm not from California, so maybe I'm missing something...  mycritters2   Jan-08-07 05:22 PM   #28 
     - It's a state school  XemaSab   Jan-08-07 05:33 PM   #33 
  - Exactly!  Mikey929   Jan-09-07 08:04 AM   #65 
  - Elsewhere in the Times article  pampango   Jan-08-07 03:40 PM   #14 
  - I Think Class Based Affirmative Action Is Worth Exploring  DemocratSinceBirth   Jan-08-07 03:44 PM   #15 
  - Yes -"affirmative action" should not apply to those from well-to-do  kath   Jan-08-07 11:23 PM   #50 
  - i'd be shocked if he got into any U of C system schools  maxsolomon   Jan-08-07 04:17 PM   #20 
  - Thanks for the heads-up.  pampango   Jan-08-07 05:00 PM   #25 
     - both of my washington-state geniuses got rejected by U of C  maxsolomon   Jan-08-07 06:51 PM   #45 
  - I've heard arguments for dividing Asians between cultures  NewJeffCT   Jan-09-07 08:04 AM   #66 
  - Oh well!  devilgrrl   Jan-08-07 04:19 PM   #21 
  - self-delete nt  Lefty-Taylor   Jan-08-07 04:41 PM   #23 
  - For my information: do these figures just include American students  muriel_volestrangler   Jan-08-07 04:53 PM   #24 
  - Americans public universities do take some  fujiyama   Jan-08-07 06:10 PM   #39 
  - 90% of UC,B undergrads are from California.  1932   Jan-08-07 11:31 PM   #51 
  - my daughter is a Cal alumnus  AtomicKitten   Jan-08-07 06:06 PM   #37 
  - oh no - the yellow peril!  kineta   Jan-08-07 06:08 PM   #38 
  - Don't have to be afraid of the yellow peril to realize that there  pampango   Jan-08-07 06:37 PM   #43 
     - I think these sort of articles are 'sensationalism' - to scare caucasians  kineta   Jan-08-07 10:42 PM   #49 
  - There is a real dilemna  fujiyama   Jan-08-07 06:29 PM   #40 
  - Probably not in the humanities  Annces   Jan-08-07 06:37 PM   #42 
  - Really? Not American citizens? That's amazing.  BlooInBloo   Jan-08-07 10:37 PM   #47 
  - what are you referring to ?  JI7   Jan-08-07 11:40 PM   #52 
     - I'm just amazed that 41% of cal-berkeley undergrads aren't American citizens.  BlooInBloo   Jan-08-07 11:44 PM   #54 
        - i don't see where it says they aren't American Citizens  JI7   Jan-08-07 11:46 PM   #55 
           - I think there is a bit of sarcasm in the response.  pampango   Jan-09-07 03:40 AM   #59 
              - Was what I say *really* *that* elliptic? (shrug) So be it.  BlooInBloo   Jan-09-07 07:55 AM   #62 
  - It's the same at many other UC Campuses. Since residents can't  Cleita   Jan-08-07 10:39 PM   #48 
  - Very good point!  XOKCowboy   Jan-09-07 01:01 AM   #57 
  - Asians make SURE they have the money for education -- even if they don't  mainer   Jan-09-07 08:18 PM   #92 
     - Also, families in the community help each other out.  Cleita   Jan-09-07 08:51 PM   #93 
  - I honestly thought it was higher than that. nt  Clarkie1   Jan-08-07 11:43 PM   #53 
  - The White Supremicists who prohibited equal opportunity provisions in admissions  ConsAreLiars   Jan-09-07 12:49 AM   #56 
  - Except that the article quotes a 2005 Princeton study that  pampango   Jan-09-07 03:33 AM   #58 
     - whites are 44% of California's population, but only 29% of the students admitted to ...  NorthernSpy   Jan-09-07 02:23 PM   #81 
  - "Asian" my ass  GreenZoneLT   Jan-09-07 04:11 AM   #60 
  - Indeed, most Asian immigrants (and succeeding generations)  pampango   Jan-09-07 07:48 AM   #61 
  - Yes  Mikey929   Jan-09-07 07:57 AM   #64 
     - Agree that we will "all have to work harder to keep up."  pampango   Jan-09-07 09:43 AM   #69 
     - I say let all the people in and all the jobs out  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-09-07 07:32 PM   #90 
     - Try to get into an Ivy League school as an Asian  AngryAmish   Jan-09-07 10:35 AM   #72 
  - That was my point. Not to white folks, they aren't.  BlooInBloo   Jan-09-07 07:55 AM   #63 
  - yeah, I knowed they was white inside...  NorthernSpy   Jan-09-07 03:21 PM   #85 
  - As long as they're not female, the dominant culture will probably be OK with it  Lilith Velkor   Jan-09-07 10:30 AM   #70 
  - Good. Let them figure out how to pay off the fucking loans. - n/t  porphyrian   Jan-09-07 10:32 AM   #71 
  - The black-slappers wanted "strict meritocracy", and by gawd they got it!  NorthernSpy   Jan-09-07 02:59 PM   #83 
  - Whites may have lost from the elimination of affirmative action  pampango   Jan-09-07 03:18 PM   #84 
  - One of the predictions is that in a few years Whites will be a  lovuian   Jan-09-07 07:43 PM   #91 
  - The real question is how many are citizens and how many have come here just to go to school?  AZBlue   Jan-09-07 09:10 PM   #94 
     - international students pay market rates n/t  aein   Jan-10-07 03:02 PM   #96 
 

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