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Sun Jan-07-07 10:00 PM
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| 51. symptoms of the same disease - there is NO DIFFERENCE |
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BIG OIL and other oligopolies have had a stranglehold on the US government for more than one hundred years ... we are in Iraq because BIG OIL wants Iraq's oil (and they're going to get Iraq's oil) and we kill electric cars and promote resource intensive lifestyles because Big Oil makes more money when we consume their product ... C02, War, rich get richer poor get poorer - IT'S ALL THE SAME PROBLEM ...
let me coin a phrase to solve, or at least to begin to address these problems: Power to the People ...
fighting battles against global warming or fighting to stop the war (this one or the next one) are all good - but nothing will change and there can be no real progress until We The People wake up and take back our country ...
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| -POLL: What is the most critical/important issue to you, Global Warming or the Iraq War |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 07:43 PM |
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The effects of the Iraq war will eventually end........... |
Double T |
Jan-07-07 07:46 PM |
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The most important effect of the Iraq war... |
JackRiddler |
Jan-07-07 10:06 PM |
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With bushco at the controls, NOTHING is clean; EVERYTHING........ |
Double T |
Jan-08-07 08:38 AM |
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You have something there... |
JackRiddler |
Jan-08-07 11:50 AM |
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You have something there... |
JackRiddler |
Jan-08-07 11:50 AM |
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The Iraq War is killing people right now. n/t |
shaniqua6392 |
Jan-07-07 07:47 PM |
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GW is killing people right now, too, approximately 160,000 a year |
electron_blue |
Jan-07-07 07:51 PM |
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Odd answer. |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 07:54 PM |
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Many are starving already from Global Warming. However, I |
jwirr |
Jan-07-07 08:00 PM |
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Depends... if I were in Iraq getting my ass shot at |
walldude |
Jan-07-07 07:49 PM |
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If you're not in Iraq, then you can't comment in that regard... |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 07:50 PM |
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Oh really? Well than my vote is for Iraq war first |
walldude |
Jan-07-07 08:27 PM |
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Of the two |
realpolitik |
Jan-07-07 08:11 PM |
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I'm personally glad to see Global Warming win out 2:1. For those who believe |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 08:11 PM |
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WOW. |
crispini |
Jan-07-07 08:16 PM |
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what did you expect? n/t |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 08:22 PM |
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I was expecting more of a parity between the two I guess. |
crispini |
Jan-07-07 08:32 PM |
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Agreed. Iraq takes on a higher profile than global warming. My feeling... |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 08:37 PM |
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You know as someone working in scientific research |
nam78_two |
Jan-07-07 08:46 PM |
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I believe what you're seeing is a natural human tendancy to deny/ignore that which is too terrible |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:08 PM |
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also the human tendency to consider proximal vs distal events, temporally speaking. |
sojourner |
Jan-07-07 09:19 PM |
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Yes, and global warming has falsely been portrayed as a distant event by the liars |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:52 PM |
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Those people have a LOT of blood on their hands |
nam78_two |
Jan-07-07 09:59 PM |
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Global Warming is the ONLY issue |
Stephanie |
Jan-07-07 08:28 PM |
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Agreed. |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:20 PM |
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She disagrees |
antiimperialist |
Jan-07-07 10:58 PM |
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False opposition. The two things cannot be separated. Let me count the |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-07-07 08:30 PM |
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That's why I say it's the Iraq war. |
oblivious |
Jan-07-07 08:34 PM |
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Global warming overall-but the two issues are kinda tied together.nt |
nam78_two |
Jan-07-07 08:41 PM |
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I hope Dem leadership is paying attention. Tackle Global Warming and you will win |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 08:42 PM |
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Unfortunately, that's wrong |
DemoDemoCratCrat |
Jan-07-07 09:06 PM |
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"Any true solution to GW is going to cause so much economic pain... be political suicide" |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:10 PM |
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OK, says you. |
DemoDemoCratCrat |
Jan-07-07 09:27 PM |
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The idea that action on global warming would cause economic hardship is a tune the deniers sing |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:49 PM |
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I'm told |
DemoDemoCratCrat |
Jan-07-07 10:08 PM |
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Has Bush's Iraq war been great for the economy? |
nam78_two |
Jan-07-07 09:55 PM |
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"Tackle Global Warming and you will win" |
DemoDemoCratCrat |
Jan-07-07 10:20 PM |
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Isn't that a false binary? Why can't we address both immediately? - n/t |
porphyrian |
Jan-07-07 09:10 PM |
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why don't we address everthing at once, huh? |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:16 PM |
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How are two things everything? |
porphyrian |
Jan-07-07 09:22 PM |
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Two things aren't everything, but I sense that if more issues were added |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:25 PM |
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Oh, a psychic. Then you know what I'm going to say next. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Jan-07-07 09:29 PM |
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Thank you. |
lwfern |
Jan-07-07 09:59 PM |
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There's no reason we can't stop global warming without undue personal inconvenience. |
porphyrian |
Jan-07-07 10:42 PM |
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Iraq war is bad....killing 100s of thousands. Global warming...10s of millions!! |
sojourner |
Jan-07-07 09:17 PM |
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Read It and WEEP |
Stephanie |
Jan-07-07 09:18 PM |
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Nothing is irreversible if we just exercise our collective will |
derby378 |
Jan-07-07 09:22 PM |
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read the article |
Stephanie |
Jan-07-07 09:23 PM |
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Guess that takes all the onus off of you to do anything? |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:35 PM |
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Excuse me, what? |
Stephanie |
Jan-07-07 09:51 PM |
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sry. Guess the opposition in this thread has got me a little jumpy |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:55 PM |
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well I mean "weep" literally |
Stephanie |
Jan-07-07 09:57 PM |
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If China invaded us... |
antiimperialist |
Jan-07-07 09:23 PM |
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"The thread is a bit pointless" |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:30 PM |
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That makes no sense |
antiimperialist |
Jan-07-07 10:54 PM |
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Folks, it is over already. What we should be looking at is building |
mikehiggins |
Jan-07-07 09:30 PM |
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Please do not advocate giving up. |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:31 PM |
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Give up? That's not the big picture. |
mikehiggins |
Jan-07-07 09:50 PM |
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we have to.... |
unkachuck |
Jan-07-07 09:36 PM |
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I love my mother and wife equally. |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jan-07-07 09:43 PM |
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For this country? The citizenry is the biggest issue. |
skids |
Jan-07-07 09:56 PM |
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symptoms of the same disease - there is NO DIFFERENCE |
welshTerrier2 |
Jan-07-07 10:00 PM |
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Global warming makes all human struggles look like so many ants fighting. |
intheflow |
Jan-07-07 10:10 PM |
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Election Reform. Media Reform. |
snot |
Jan-07-07 10:17 PM |
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But we don't need to choose...we can address both NOW. |
me b zola |
Jan-07-07 10:24 PM |
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I am with me b zola - BOTH NOW - we need the $$ currently being |
IndyOp |
Jan-07-07 10:27 PM |
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I am glad to see Global Warming in the lead as it often appears that some have NO other issue than |
saracat |
Jan-07-07 10:26 PM |
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Hand Counting Paper Ballots, NO MACHINES |
kster |
Jan-07-07 10:59 PM |
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False dichotomy |
Jcrowley |
Jan-07-07 11:00 PM |
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I don't see why we can't do both at the same time. We Dems can |
Auntie Bush |
Jan-07-07 11:06 PM |
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Iraq is a gunshot wound; global warming is a cancer |
dmesg |
Jan-07-07 11:09 PM |
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Weird question |
tavalon |
Jan-08-07 05:57 AM |
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other: both + peak oil |
rman |
Jan-08-07 06:07 AM |
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Global warming first, then the out of control global population explosion |
mtnsnake |
Jan-08-07 08:50 AM |
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Strawmen ... |
Everybody |
Jan-08-07 08:57 AM |
#71 |
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