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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:52 PM
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25. Your implication is that people who oppose censorship are pro-pornography.
I am a mother of two young children and I very much care about what they see on the Internet. At the same time, I would not want to limit someone's ability to perform research in the library. That's why our library system has an excellent solution -- filters are available and adults decide for themselves and parents decide for their minor children when they sign up for a library card whether or not the filters are automatically turned on (it's connected to your library card number).

Please note that filters block a lot of perfectly legitimate information while at the same time letting some of the bad stuff through.

And you can't use the presence of minors to justify imposing content-based restrictions on access to Internet speech. Judge Leonie Brinkema in Mainstream Loudoun v. Loudoun County Library Board of Trustees said that "...defendants may not, in the interest of protecting children, limit the speech available to adults to what is fit for juveniles.”

What's more, the use of filtering software means that private firms are controlling citizens' access to information. The firms that develop filtering software will not reveal what they block (claiming proprietary information). And many of these firms have religious or political biases and/or connections to organizations whose goal is to censor information with which they disagree.

Here are some excerpts from various articles and studies:

The June 2005 edition of Consumer Reports stated that "...our evaluation of 11 products, including the filters built into online services AOL and MSN, found that…the best blockers today tended to block many sites they shouldn’t…"

The March 2001 edition of Consumer Reports also addressed censorship: “In some cases, filters block harmless sites merely because their software does not consider the context in which a word or phrase is used. Far more troubling is when a filter appears to block legitimate sites based on moral or political value judgments…Our results cast doubt on the appropriateness of some companies’ judgments…”

Ellen Edwards of the Washington Post reported on December 11, 2002, that “software meant to protect young people from the seamier side of the Internet may also be blocking important health information on issues ranging from diabetes and sexually transmitted diseases to depression and suicide, according to a Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation study released yesterday…"

The National Coalition Against Censorship (NCAC) has excellent resources and links as well.



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  -Group wants to make divorce harder (freepers unhappy) varun  Jan-06-07 12:51 PM   #0 
  - Great post! More good info on this at Pam's  splat@14   Jan-06-07 12:56 PM   #1 
  - "how about these busybodies mind their own families and...  Momgonepostal   Jan-06-07 12:57 PM   #2 
  - No kidding!  Blue State Native   Jan-06-07 01:04 PM   #4 
  - Really!! Made me laugh!  Nay   Jan-06-07 02:10 PM   #13 
  - Ummm that post came from a libertarian.  liberaldemocrat7   Jan-07-07 12:52 AM   #27 
  - OK, well that's consistent then  Momgonepostal   Jan-07-07 01:28 PM   #34 
  - Boy, you got that right.  Libby2   Jan-07-07 01:54 PM   #36 
  - We TOLD 'em so! We TRIED to warn them. But did they listen? Nooo...  IanDB1   Jan-06-07 12:59 PM   #3 
  - contraception will be illegal next  varun   Jan-06-07 01:06 PM   #5 
  - They also need to pass bigger restrictions on sales of strychnine,  No Exit   Jan-06-07 01:26 PM   #6 
  - It's only a way of life for half the population  Warpy   Jan-06-07 01:45 PM   #9 
     - You make some good points.  No Exit   Jan-07-07 09:09 AM   #30 
        - Waiting doesn't work  Warpy   Jan-07-07 10:27 AM   #32 
  - Also in the article  Mizmoon   Jan-06-07 01:27 PM   #7 
  - Last year the filtering bills they promoted lasted til the last day of the session  Neurotica   Jan-06-07 06:53 PM   #21 
  - Children go to libraries alone  sandnsea   Jan-06-07 08:01 PM   #23 
     - Your implication is that people who oppose censorship are pro-pornography.  Neurotica   Jan-06-07 10:52 PM   #25 
        - "censorship business"  sandnsea   Jan-07-07 12:28 AM   #26 
           - I am not pro porn  Mizmoon   Jan-07-07 09:44 AM   #31 
              - The library is a public building  sandnsea   Jan-07-07 01:26 PM   #33 
                 - I am a librarian, not a babysitter  Mizmoon   Jan-07-07 07:07 PM   #37 
                    - Librarians serve children too  sandnsea   Jan-07-07 07:40 PM   #39 
  - Ha, ha, ha ha ha!  ljm2002   Jan-06-07 01:39 PM   #8 
  - Arizona Republicans pushed for this a few years ago  ThoughtCriminal   Jan-06-07 01:47 PM   #10 
  - at least they are being consistant and not being hypocrits. i think i will back them  seabeyond   Jan-06-07 02:01 PM   #11 
  - If it wasn't for no-fault divorce laws,  lukasahero   Jan-06-07 05:55 PM   #18 
     - horrible thing to do ... of course it is, just as it is horrible denying smokers  seabeyond   Jan-06-07 06:23 PM   #20 
  - This fits in well with the initiative I'm sponsoring in Washington  TechBear_Seattle   Jan-06-07 02:04 PM   #12 
  - Next after they get this one: imprisonment of adulterers. n/t  no_hypocrisy   Jan-06-07 02:12 PM   #14 
  - i am never going to fuck around on my mate. ya.... good one. i say go for it  seabeyond   Jan-06-07 02:36 PM   #16 
  - fornicators next  varun   Jan-06-07 05:15 PM   #17 
  - Prosecute Carter!  JohnnyLib2   Jan-06-07 02:25 PM   #15 
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  - THey keep focusing on the wrong end of things.  uppityperson   Jan-06-07 07:09 PM   #22 
  - As if it weren't hard enough already.  Orsino   Jan-06-07 08:08 PM   #24 
  - I would advocate a variant of this............  Porcupine   Jan-07-07 02:16 AM   #28 
  - I love the fact that this would be only for couples with children.  fifthgendem   Jan-07-07 07:57 AM   #29 
  - that isn't the reasoning at all  dsc   Jan-07-07 07:46 PM   #40 
     - See, to me, a marriage is a marriage, whether you have children or not.  fifthgendem   Jan-08-07 07:22 PM   #41 
  - Prediction...  frogcycle   Jan-07-07 01:33 PM   #35 
  - For Some Reason....  jmauller   Jan-07-07 07:12 PM   #38 
 

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