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Calhoon2007 Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #102
106. Dude, you're awesome!
Fly from Mexico, Canada or Bahamas. Or, if fortunate like me, sail with the anual Havana Cup Race direct from Tampa, Florida. Mucha Gusta!(It has been my pleasure!)
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  -Capitalism is a bright shiney apple Pharaoh  Jan-03-07 04:57 PM   #0 
  - capitalism is a great tool, it's just a very bad religion  stevebreeze   Jan-03-07 05:06 PM   #1 
  - Capitalism unregulated  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 05:14 PM   #3 
     - No, it really hasn't. People who don't give a damn about other people...  originalpckelly   Jan-03-07 05:46 PM   #9 
        - we need to regulate corporations  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 06:05 PM   #15 
  - I don't have a problem with capitalism.  William769   Jan-03-07 05:14 PM   #2 
  - Then lets regulate the corporations  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 05:15 PM   #5 
  - The 2nd reason for the American Revolution was corporations  William769   Jan-03-07 05:26 PM   #7 
     - I know. We have no one else to blame but ourselves.  originalpckelly   Jan-03-07 05:53 PM   #10 
        - You want to see Evil?  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 06:53 PM   #36 
  - Thank you-May I also rebuke this nonsense  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 06:30 PM   #22 
     - You wouldn't have a curiously stained copy of "Atlas Shrugged" lying...  mitchum   Jan-03-07 07:13 PM   #46 
        - Nah!  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 07:22 PM   #50 
        - You wouln't happen to have a conspicuously stained copy of  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 07:26 PM   #54 
        - Hey Mitch Check Out The Comment In His Profile  Binka   Jan-05-07 04:13 AM   #124 
  - Capitalism isn't the problem. Corporatism is.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 05:15 PM   #4 
  - Yes, they've taken over our government  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 05:17 PM   #6 
  - Corporatism is the problem. Capitalism isn't necessarily corporatism.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 05:54 PM   #11 
  - It should not be called corporatism, it's fascism. Nothing more and nothing less.  originalpckelly   Jan-03-07 05:54 PM   #12 
  - Fascism is just corporatism with a social agenda.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 05:55 PM   #13 
  - And its inevitable consequence.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 06:31 PM   #23 
  - A hammer can be used to build a house or kill a person.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 06:34 PM   #24 
     - I understand your meaning  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 06:37 PM   #25 
     - "An argument for the validity" of my analogy?  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 06:41 PM   #29 
     - However  manic expression   Jan-03-07 06:39 PM   #27 
        - In your analogy, the hammer can mean whatever you want it to.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 06:49 PM   #34 
           - Capitalism is not a tool, it is a system.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 06:51 PM   #35 
           - You don't think a system can be a tool?  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 06:54 PM   #37 
              - As a tool that can be directed? Not really.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 06:58 PM   #40 
                 - That's simply not true.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 07:03 PM   #41 
                    - No, there's a qualitative difference here that you aren't appreciating.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 07:06 PM   #43 
                       - That's a semantic difference.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 07:26 PM   #55 
                          - Only if you distort my meaning.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 07:35 PM   #61 
                             - Sorry, you're the one distorting the issue.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 07:48 PM   #65 
                                - No, it doesn't apply.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 08:13 PM   #73 
                                   - Right, you insist that the conversation conform to your favored parameters.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 08:18 PM   #77 
                                      - You have not shown the accuracy of your analogy.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 08:23 PM   #80 
                                         - Your refusal to agree with my analogy doesn't make it inaccurate.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 08:40 PM   #86 
           - As the other poster said  manic expression   Jan-03-07 07:56 PM   #68 
              - Now you're trying to redefine my analogy.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 08:10 PM   #72 
              - You could say that  manic expression   Jan-03-07 08:25 PM   #82 
                 - Again, you are trying to make my analogy do things it wasn't meant to do.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 08:37 PM   #83 
                    - OK  manic expression   Jan-03-07 08:43 PM   #90 
                       - I disagree with your point then. Capitalism itself is not positive or negative.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 08:55 PM   #92 
                          - Capitalism is a system of naked exploitation  manic expression   Jan-03-07 09:03 PM   #93 
                             - Yeah, if you get your definitions from anti-capitalist propaganda.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 09:17 PM   #97 
                                - Not really  manic expression   Jan-03-07 09:49 PM   #105 
                                   - Thanks for proving my point. - n/t  porphyrian   Jan-04-07 01:37 PM   #113 
                                   - You didn't have one to begin with  manic expression   Jan-04-07 08:04 PM   #117 
                                   - good show  Clu   Jan-05-07 06:32 AM   #126 
              - yeah manic,  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 08:15 PM   #74 
  - IA, when people are condemning capitalism, they are condemning  treestar   Jan-03-07 08:08 PM   #70 
     - I think you're probably right. Oh well. Can't make people read dictionaries. - n/t  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 08:41 PM   #87 
     - The problem is that "state assistance" has been a major feature of capitalism  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 08:45 PM   #91 
        - Now you're attempting to redefine capitalism to your argument.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 09:04 PM   #94 
           - No, I'm not.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 09:16 PM   #95 
              - No, that is one result and isn't necessitated by the definition.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 09:37 PM   #99 
                 - So, tell me:  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 09:39 PM   #100 
                    - Misleading question.  porphyrian   Jan-03-07 09:48 PM   #104 
                       - Don't put words into my mouth.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 09:56 PM   #108 
                          - More semantics. I don't care what you believe.  porphyrian   Jan-04-07 09:52 AM   #112 
  - The problem is lack of balance.  Ron_Green   Jan-03-07 05:29 PM   #8 
  - What influence does the church have in the market?  manic expression   Jan-03-07 06:00 PM   #14 
     - The Church (I'm using the term in the broadest possible sense)  Ron_Green   Jan-03-07 06:14 PM   #17 
        - OK  manic expression   Jan-03-07 06:25 PM   #20 
           - Comments do not distinguish between big and small business  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 06:40 PM   #28 
           - I addressed what is called  manic expression   Jan-03-07 07:05 PM   #42 
              - Depends, If you are a mom and pop grocer and w-mart comes in...  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 07:20 PM   #49 
                 - Of course  manic expression   Jan-03-07 07:49 PM   #66 
                    - yea,, but that is the deal.  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 08:17 PM   #75 
                       - That is one piece of the 'deal'  manic expression   Jan-03-07 08:39 PM   #85 
                          - I appreciate the cordial debate. You are both genuine in your belief  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 09:17 PM   #96 
                          - You're welcome and thank you  manic expression   Jan-03-07 09:42 PM   #102 
                             - Dude, you're awesome!  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 09:54 PM   #106 
                          - Why did you choose Che as your Avatar?  Calhoon2007   Jan-03-07 09:26 PM   #98 
                             - I chose it when I first joined DU  manic expression   Jan-03-07 09:56 PM   #107 
           - Thanks - one more thought:  Ron_Green   Jan-03-07 06:45 PM   #31 
           - Sure  manic expression   Jan-03-07 07:31 PM   #58 
           - Well said manic expression  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 06:47 PM   #33 
  - Carlin says it all  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 06:10 PM   #16 
  - OK Wrong clip  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 06:26 PM   #21 
  - A Big Red, White, and Blue DICK being shoved up your...  Say_What   Jan-03-07 07:25 PM   #52 
  - The core  manic expression   Jan-03-07 06:14 PM   #18 
  - and loaded with poison  leftofthedial   Jan-03-07 06:14 PM   #19 
  - Capitalism is funamentally morally wrong.  Odin2005   Jan-03-07 06:37 PM   #26 
  - Yup  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 06:43 PM   #30 
  - and the further down the line one is, the more one gets exploited...  Say_What   Jan-03-07 07:29 PM   #57 
  - And sentencing the vast majority  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 06:47 PM   #32 
  - not to mention the deaths its been responsible for under those US-Friendly Dictators...  Say_What   Jan-03-07 07:28 PM   #56 
  - No, it doesn't, there will always be people trying to prey on others.  originalpckelly   Jan-03-07 08:42 PM   #89 
  - With no corporate oversight & regulations it is rotten...The republicans, corporations and  GreenTea   Jan-03-07 06:55 PM   #38 
  - I am only opposed to UNREGULATED capitalism. NT  mondo joe   Jan-03-07 06:56 PM   #39 
  - It's amazing how people  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 07:09 PM   #44 
  - So whats the alternative ?  MazeRat7   Jan-03-07 07:11 PM   #45 
  - reward for extra effort  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 07:19 PM   #48 
     - I agree, but if capitalism has a rotten core, then what is the better alternative ?  MazeRat7   Jan-03-07 07:25 PM   #53 
        - Here are some alternative viewpoints  manic expression   Jan-03-07 08:06 PM   #69 
        - Thank-you. Thats whats its all about ... "information". -nt  MazeRat7   Jan-03-07 08:37 PM   #84 
        - Just want to fix  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 08:09 PM   #71 
  - I'm a fan of market socialism instead.  Selatius   Jan-03-07 07:16 PM   #47 
  - That's sounds good  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 07:22 PM   #51 
     - We can use the USSR as a reference point.  Selatius   Jan-03-07 07:34 PM   #60 
        - Where would the capital for investment come from? n/t  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 07:37 PM   #62 
        - Well, naturally that would be through profits the firms generate.  Selatius   Jan-03-07 07:40 PM   #63 
        - Would newly-hired workers be given an equal share in the company?  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 07:53 PM   #67 
           - A worker co-op wouldn't be a co-op if workers aren't given a share, would it?  Selatius   Jan-03-07 08:17 PM   #76 
           - That's what I thought.  Unvanguard   Jan-03-07 08:42 PM   #88 
              - 2 points.  Selatius   Jan-04-07 12:04 AM   #110 
                 - And why would the new workers consent to that?  Unvanguard   Jan-04-07 01:44 PM   #114 
                    - Then the question I'd raise is why would it be any different?  Selatius   Jan-05-07 03:31 AM   #118 
           - Oh by the way unvanguard  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 08:21 PM   #78 
        - All capital is created by labor  rman   Jan-05-07 03:54 AM   #119 
        - they sold of the USSR  Pharaoh   Jan-03-07 07:46 PM   #64 
  - It's fundamentally a good system.  HypnoToad   Jan-03-07 07:33 PM   #59 
  - Seems to me from what I've learned, its all pretty window dressing  shance   Jan-03-07 08:23 PM   #79 
  - Capitalism is simply a lie really. It's not reality based.  shance   Jan-03-07 08:24 PM   #81 
     - And which one is still around?  William769   Jan-03-07 09:39 PM   #101 
        - The USSR wasn't real Socialism, it was State Capitalism.  Odin2005   Jan-04-07 04:18 PM   #116 
  - It's capitalism or a habitable planet - you can't have both  Jcrowley   Jan-03-07 09:45 PM   #103 
  - Capitalism and slavery  Jcrowley   Jan-03-07 09:58 PM   #109 
  - Lets all increase our production.  OxQQme   Jan-04-07 01:10 AM   #111 
     - "It had to be constantly fed or it would fall apart."  NoMoreMyths   Jan-05-07 04:31 AM   #125 
  - Capitalism is the most powerful tool for creating ecoonomic growth and prosperity.  Idioteque   Jan-04-07 01:51 PM   #115 
  - Just how "free" do you think the market should be?  rman   Jan-05-07 03:56 AM   #120 
  - Again, I note that socialism and the free market are not mutually exclusive ideas  Selatius   Jan-05-07 03:58 AM   #121 
  - But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao  impeachdubya   Jan-05-07 03:58 AM   #122 
  - American corporate capitalism is evil.  Vidar   Jan-05-07 04:03 AM   #123 
 

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