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Mon Jan-01-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 30. I would rather view this from a soceital pov, |
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Not a spritiual one.
Hasn't there been plenty of vengengeance in history carried out in the name of "God's Justice"?
I'm not attacking your personal spiritual pov, just pointing out that such a pov has been greatly abused in the past.
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| -What's the difference between Justice and Vengeance? |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 12:11 PM |
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It's always vengeance. Every time. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-01-07 12:15 PM |
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Well, in the case of parking tickets, |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 12:22 PM |
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Really? So locking a murderer away in prison for life is vengeance alone? |
originalpckelly |
Jan-01-07 12:50 PM |
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Vengence is justice with an attitude. n/t |
Generic Brad |
Jan-01-07 12:17 PM |
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I believe it's a subjective delineation, something that can't be a universal |
no_hypocrisy |
Jan-01-07 12:18 PM |
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You hit the nail on the head here: |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 12:31 PM |
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Just acts are what I do to others |
mdmc |
Jan-01-07 12:18 PM |
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It is often ego-centric, isn't it? |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 12:39 PM |
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agreed |
mdmc |
Jan-01-07 12:41 PM |
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Justice - within the law? Vengeance - outside the law? |
higher class |
Jan-01-07 12:20 PM |
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But when is a law a "misguided" law? |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 12:37 PM |
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It appears that guidance given Bush by Gonzales is misguided |
higher class |
Jan-01-07 01:46 PM |
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here's mine |
dave_p |
Jan-01-07 12:21 PM |
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What would you consider a "common sense of right"? |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 12:34 PM |
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Please allow me to restate my prior post with an addition. |
no_hypocrisy |
Jan-01-07 12:53 PM |
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Note... |
dave_p |
Jan-01-07 01:49 PM |
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These basically summarize my view |
mazzarro |
Jan-01-07 12:47 PM |
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EXCELLENT! Thank you, mazzarro! |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 01:05 PM |
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I'll take # 5 - rehabilitate and add that I believe the soul is involved |
higher class |
Jan-01-07 01:56 PM |
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Would that not be why |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jan-01-07 03:06 PM |
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Exactly! And, hopefully, it may also be found in the teachings or |
higher class |
Jan-01-07 08:49 PM |
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When "justice" comes via a want and not a need, it's vengeance. |
flvegan |
Jan-01-07 12:50 PM |
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In the eye of the beholder |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-01-07 12:54 PM |
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If you are taking joy from the misery of another |
lwfern |
Jan-01-07 01:12 PM |
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I STRONGLY recommend you search out the books of Rene Girard. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-01-07 01:53 PM |
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There is a site devoted to the Girard school of thought... |
madmusic |
Jan-01-07 02:22 PM |
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that site. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-01-07 02:28 PM |
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Thanks to both of you! I will check out Girard. nt |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 02:41 PM |
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Thanks to both of you! I will check out Girard. nt |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 02:42 PM |
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There is a good summary a little later... |
madmusic |
Jan-01-07 02:44 PM |
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That's an excellent summary. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-01-07 02:49 PM |
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Yes, Tobin Siebers indtroduced me to him... |
madmusic |
Jan-01-07 03:19 PM |
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Hmmm, doesn't this help explain much of the conflict in the ME? |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 02:52 PM |
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Justice is Divine, vengeance is human |
mdmc |
Jan-01-07 01:59 PM |
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I would rather view this from a soceital pov, |
johnaries |
Jan-01-07 02:46 PM |
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yup. "God is With Us" - rallying cry of the Nazis |
mdmc |
Jan-01-07 03:06 PM |
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Justice and Vengence |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jan-01-07 02:54 PM |
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. |
Little Star |
Jan-01-07 03:05 PM |
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When we have a god complex |
LWolf |
Jan-01-07 02:57 PM |
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Justice is supposed to protect society; Revenge usually appeases one individual |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-01-07 03:01 PM |
#35 |
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