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Sun Dec-31-06 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 56. it isnt good, it isnt pretty, ii agree. i have seen the system with two brothers |
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in different measures. i am not impressed with our system at all. scares the hell out of me. never having gotten in trouble and never having experienced the system, i trusted, foolishly and blindly. why i know how and why these people have the attitudes they do. they THINK our system is better than it is. these two cases, watching what happened, left my mouth hanging open and fearful of our justice and stating i never want to get into that place because i know the many errors of the ways. here, i will agree, our systems needs addressing in the worst of ways.
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| -Can you support the death penalty even though it's not 100 percent accurate.... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:11 AM |
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Do you think you'll get a sound thrashing from the |
madeline_con |
Dec-31-06 11:14 AM |
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Probably... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:15 AM |
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no |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-31-06 11:14 AM |
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The government should not be in the business of killing its citizens. |
davsand |
Dec-31-06 11:15 AM |
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I'm against the death penalty. |
Kerrytravelers |
Dec-31-06 11:16 AM |
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Nope. |
Sugarcoated |
Dec-31-06 11:17 AM |
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No I don't support the Death Penalty |
lovuian |
Dec-31-06 11:17 AM |
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I really kindof schizophrenic on this |
Rosemary2205 |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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Of course not! |
pocoloco |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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no one supports the execution of the innocent |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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How can a legitimate point |
Sugarcoated |
Dec-31-06 11:20 AM |
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the straw man is saying DP supporters support the killing of the innocent |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:31 AM |
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if you ignore the fact of innocents being killed and continue to support dp |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:38 AM |
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the reality is that you are not reading my posts |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:48 AM |
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there are many people that ignore the innocent being murder |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:52 AM |
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no there aren't |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:56 AM |
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kinda what i put in my first post somewhere. put hands to ears and say la la la la |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 12:08 PM |
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your post is a better example of the straw man argument |
fishwax |
Dec-31-06 01:11 PM |
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it is strawman to say if possible to execute one innocent, dp is wrong? |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:29 AM |
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why do we assume we can't clean up this badly broken system? |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:37 AM |
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because always, mistakes will be made. because always |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:41 AM |
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so just throw up our hands and not even try to correct the wrong? |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:46 AM |
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now that is strawman. no dp so MUST be throw hands up and give up |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:51 AM |
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One of my best friends |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:55 AM |
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i just read your other posts, what a heart breaking story |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:58 AM |
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While it's true |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 12:02 PM |
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agreed |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 12:05 PM |
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A quote |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 12:12 PM |
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Your friend's example is the one I often use when debating the |
Spazito |
Dec-31-06 12:13 PM |
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Thank you. |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 12:16 PM |
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Now, what YOU just stated IS a prime example of a "straw man" |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:41 PM |
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It's not a straw man if it actually happens n/t |
wryter2000 |
Dec-31-06 11:51 AM |
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Not a straw man argument at all but a very BIG part of the equation... |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:38 PM |
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How about this..... |
Kingshakabobo |
Jan-01-07 01:47 PM |
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What if YOU are the one percent??? Fuck NO. |
spanone |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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No |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-31-06 11:21 AM |
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stroud also killed someone in jail |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:54 AM |
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Here in IL, it was only 50% ACCURATE! |
TOJ |
Dec-31-06 11:22 AM |
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of course it wouldn't be any more accurate |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:59 AM |
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Absolutely not |
chefgirl |
Dec-31-06 11:22 AM |
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As you know, |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:24 AM |
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If the Jury took the Prosecutors advice... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:46 AM |
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Correct. |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:49 AM |
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The death penalty is barbaric. It's not something a civilized people should engage in. n/t |
LibInTexas |
Dec-31-06 11:25 AM |
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i know people who do. but that is one of the handful of bottom lines for me |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:27 AM |
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No death penalty! |
dumpbush |
Dec-31-06 11:30 AM |
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innocent people get life w.out parole too |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:40 AM |
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and there is always the possibility of catching the mistake. take it away when you kill them |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:41 AM |
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agreed that's a legitimate point of debate |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 12:04 PM |
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it isnt good, it isnt pretty, ii agree. i have seen the system with two brothers |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 12:13 PM |
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The dead can NEVER "reclaim their lives" - but the LIVING can - and DO! |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:47 PM |
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that is the deal breaker. innocent people WILL be executed. nt. |
k_jerome |
Dec-31-06 11:32 AM |
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As long as..... |
suston96 |
Dec-31-06 11:33 AM |
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Sure. |
aikoaiko |
Dec-31-06 11:34 AM |
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Why? n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-31-06 12:57 PM |
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I support |
rsr1771 |
Dec-31-06 11:36 AM |
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"By that logic, |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:41 AM |
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If it were not for the death penalty |
Annces |
Dec-31-06 11:38 AM |
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there is no need for the death penality... |
MazeRat7 |
Dec-31-06 11:40 AM |
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The death penalty IS 100% accurate. |
Squatch |
Dec-31-06 11:42 AM |
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That is true.... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:47 AM |
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No. n/t |
wryter2000 |
Dec-31-06 11:50 AM |
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No. |
tbyg52 |
Dec-31-06 12:01 PM |
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Would be...? |
uberllama42 |
Dec-31-06 12:33 PM |
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If decisions, |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 12:34 PM |
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I can only assume, then, that if it were your son or daughter, your |
Spazito |
Dec-31-06 12:38 PM |
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Naturally, I would do |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 12:57 PM |
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That is simply not true. |
athena |
Dec-31-06 07:21 PM |
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The power of |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 07:26 PM |
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Oh, bullshit!! |
Totallybushed |
Jan-01-07 12:23 AM |
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"It is better that 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned" n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-31-06 01:00 PM |
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Maybe,maybe not? |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 01:34 PM |
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More than a cliche, it is the reason our legal system used to be based |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-31-06 01:51 PM |
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Until proven guilty |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 02:40 PM |
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Self-delete. nt |
blondeatlast |
Dec-31-06 04:34 PM |
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Too bad, |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 05:41 PM |
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Fine. How many innocent people are you willing to let the State kill? |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-01-07 12:25 AM |
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I am not |
Totallybushed |
Jan-01-07 12:29 AM |
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Can you support the criminal justice system even though it is not 100 percent accurate? |
elocs |
Dec-31-06 12:35 PM |
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Though it is true that there are innocent people in jail, |
Balbus |
Dec-31-06 01:07 PM |
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The death penalty, however, is permanent. |
Left Is Write |
Dec-31-06 07:29 PM |
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I am totally against the death penalty. Period. |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:35 PM |
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I wouldn't support it if it was 100% accurate |
alcibiades_mystery |
Dec-31-06 01:00 PM |
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I don't support it anyway. |
LWolf |
Dec-31-06 02:11 PM |
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I support the DP, even though its not 100% accurate. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 02:52 PM |
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So life means nothing to you? |
Solon |
Dec-31-06 03:02 PM |
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All mistakes are preventable. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 03:18 PM |
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But the DP isn't necessary in today's society... |
Solon |
Dec-31-06 05:20 PM |
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LOL |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 06:11 PM |
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Hypocrite. I bet you drive a car. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:16 PM |
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I hate knuckleheads |
trumad |
Jan-01-07 01:43 PM |
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Nice. How long did that reply take you to think up? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:45 PM |
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It took me two words into your last post... |
trumad |
Jan-01-07 09:48 PM |
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Lame |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 01:46 PM |
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I bet you're one of those car-driving hypocrites, too, arent ya? -nt |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:49 PM |
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Actually no, I'm a pedestrian |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 01:51 PM |
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Really? What is illogical about it? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:55 PM |
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a better question what is logical about it? |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 02:03 PM |
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Jan-01-07 10:30 PM |
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Yeah, you told me off or something |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 11:01 PM |
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I won't respect death penalty supporters... |
NorthernSpy |
Dec-31-06 03:05 PM |
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Sure, as soon as you kill yourself if you get into a car accident which results in a death. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 03:19 PM |
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nope: killing for justice is YOUR principle, so YOU live up to it... |
NorthernSpy |
Dec-31-06 04:21 PM |
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Driving for profit is YOUR principle, so YOU live up to it ... |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 04:41 PM |
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O-kaaaaayyyy.... |
NorthernSpy |
Dec-31-06 04:51 PM |
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No. And that is 1 reason I do not. eom |
uppityperson |
Dec-31-06 03:13 PM |
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No; and those that can should be able to accept vigilante justice as well. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-31-06 04:37 PM |
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No, I can't--but then I don't support the death penalty anyway. |
Raksha |
Dec-31-06 05:23 PM |
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I will never support state-sponsored revenge. |
Blue-Jay |
Dec-31-06 06:22 PM |
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Absoutely not. |
jeffrey_X |
Dec-31-06 07:19 PM |
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I have NEVER supported the death penalty. that's one good reason. n/t |
garybeck |
Dec-31-06 07:30 PM |
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There are other reasons to be against it, but that one suffices,... |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-31-06 07:31 PM |
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next to abortion |
leftofthedial |
Jan-01-07 12:31 AM |
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Overall, I Don't Support The DP. However, When The Person Is Definitively Guilty Of Barbaric Acts, |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-01-07 12:33 AM |
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morning kick |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-01-07 08:46 AM |
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I've thought about it and I've thought about it and NO I cannot support the death penalty |
madokie |
Jan-01-07 01:21 PM |
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"It won't effect me" |
mdmc |
Jan-01-07 01:31 PM |
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Nope nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jan-01-07 01:50 PM |
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They will support it right up until THEY get wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death. |
Zhade |
Jan-01-07 02:52 PM |
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