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Sun Dec-31-06 11:15 AM
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| 3. The government should not be in the business of killing its citizens. |
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The Government should be afraid of its citizens rather than us being afraid of our government--including our legal system.
THAT is the bottom lineas far as I am concerned.
Laura
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| -Can you support the death penalty even though it's not 100 percent accurate.... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:11 AM |
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Do you think you'll get a sound thrashing from the |
madeline_con |
Dec-31-06 11:14 AM |
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Probably... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:15 AM |
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no |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-31-06 11:14 AM |
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The government should not be in the business of killing its citizens. |
davsand |
Dec-31-06 11:15 AM |
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I'm against the death penalty. |
Kerrytravelers |
Dec-31-06 11:16 AM |
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Nope. |
Sugarcoated |
Dec-31-06 11:17 AM |
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No I don't support the Death Penalty |
lovuian |
Dec-31-06 11:17 AM |
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I really kindof schizophrenic on this |
Rosemary2205 |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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Of course not! |
pocoloco |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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no one supports the execution of the innocent |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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How can a legitimate point |
Sugarcoated |
Dec-31-06 11:20 AM |
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the straw man is saying DP supporters support the killing of the innocent |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:31 AM |
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if you ignore the fact of innocents being killed and continue to support dp |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:38 AM |
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the reality is that you are not reading my posts |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:48 AM |
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there are many people that ignore the innocent being murder |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:52 AM |
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no there aren't |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:56 AM |
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kinda what i put in my first post somewhere. put hands to ears and say la la la la |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 12:08 PM |
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your post is a better example of the straw man argument |
fishwax |
Dec-31-06 01:11 PM |
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it is strawman to say if possible to execute one innocent, dp is wrong? |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:29 AM |
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why do we assume we can't clean up this badly broken system? |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:37 AM |
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because always, mistakes will be made. because always |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:41 AM |
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so just throw up our hands and not even try to correct the wrong? |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:46 AM |
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now that is strawman. no dp so MUST be throw hands up and give up |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:51 AM |
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One of my best friends |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:55 AM |
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i just read your other posts, what a heart breaking story |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:58 AM |
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While it's true |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 12:02 PM |
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agreed |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 12:05 PM |
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A quote |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 12:12 PM |
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Your friend's example is the one I often use when debating the |
Spazito |
Dec-31-06 12:13 PM |
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Thank you. |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 12:16 PM |
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Now, what YOU just stated IS a prime example of a "straw man" |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:41 PM |
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It's not a straw man if it actually happens n/t |
wryter2000 |
Dec-31-06 11:51 AM |
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Not a straw man argument at all but a very BIG part of the equation... |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:38 PM |
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How about this..... |
Kingshakabobo |
Jan-01-07 01:47 PM |
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What if YOU are the one percent??? Fuck NO. |
spanone |
Dec-31-06 11:18 AM |
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No |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-31-06 11:21 AM |
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stroud also killed someone in jail |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:54 AM |
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Here in IL, it was only 50% ACCURATE! |
TOJ |
Dec-31-06 11:22 AM |
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of course it wouldn't be any more accurate |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:59 AM |
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Absolutely not |
chefgirl |
Dec-31-06 11:22 AM |
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As you know, |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:24 AM |
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If the Jury took the Prosecutors advice... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:46 AM |
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Correct. |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:49 AM |
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The death penalty is barbaric. It's not something a civilized people should engage in. n/t |
LibInTexas |
Dec-31-06 11:25 AM |
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i know people who do. but that is one of the handful of bottom lines for me |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:27 AM |
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No death penalty! |
dumpbush |
Dec-31-06 11:30 AM |
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innocent people get life w.out parole too |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 11:40 AM |
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and there is always the possibility of catching the mistake. take it away when you kill them |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 11:41 AM |
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agreed that's a legitimate point of debate |
pitohui |
Dec-31-06 12:04 PM |
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it isnt good, it isnt pretty, ii agree. i have seen the system with two brothers |
seabeyond |
Dec-31-06 12:13 PM |
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The dead can NEVER "reclaim their lives" - but the LIVING can - and DO! |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:47 PM |
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that is the deal breaker. innocent people WILL be executed. nt. |
k_jerome |
Dec-31-06 11:32 AM |
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As long as..... |
suston96 |
Dec-31-06 11:33 AM |
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Sure. |
aikoaiko |
Dec-31-06 11:34 AM |
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Why? n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-31-06 12:57 PM |
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I support |
rsr1771 |
Dec-31-06 11:36 AM |
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"By that logic, |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 11:41 AM |
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If it were not for the death penalty |
Annces |
Dec-31-06 11:38 AM |
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there is no need for the death penality... |
MazeRat7 |
Dec-31-06 11:40 AM |
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The death penalty IS 100% accurate. |
Squatch |
Dec-31-06 11:42 AM |
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That is true.... |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 11:47 AM |
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No. n/t |
wryter2000 |
Dec-31-06 11:50 AM |
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No. |
tbyg52 |
Dec-31-06 12:01 PM |
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Would be...? |
uberllama42 |
Dec-31-06 12:33 PM |
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If decisions, |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 12:34 PM |
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I can only assume, then, that if it were your son or daughter, your |
Spazito |
Dec-31-06 12:38 PM |
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Naturally, I would do |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 12:57 PM |
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That is simply not true. |
athena |
Dec-31-06 07:21 PM |
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The power of |
H2O Man |
Dec-31-06 07:26 PM |
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Oh, bullshit!! |
Totallybushed |
Jan-01-07 12:23 AM |
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"It is better that 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned" n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-31-06 01:00 PM |
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Maybe,maybe not? |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 01:34 PM |
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More than a cliche, it is the reason our legal system used to be based |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-31-06 01:51 PM |
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Until proven guilty |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 02:40 PM |
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Self-delete. nt |
blondeatlast |
Dec-31-06 04:34 PM |
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Too bad, |
Totallybushed |
Dec-31-06 05:41 PM |
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Fine. How many innocent people are you willing to let the State kill? |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-01-07 12:25 AM |
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I am not |
Totallybushed |
Jan-01-07 12:29 AM |
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Can you support the criminal justice system even though it is not 100 percent accurate? |
elocs |
Dec-31-06 12:35 PM |
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Though it is true that there are innocent people in jail, |
Balbus |
Dec-31-06 01:07 PM |
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The death penalty, however, is permanent. |
Left Is Write |
Dec-31-06 07:29 PM |
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I am totally against the death penalty. Period. |
TankLV |
Dec-31-06 12:35 PM |
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I wouldn't support it if it was 100% accurate |
alcibiades_mystery |
Dec-31-06 01:00 PM |
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I don't support it anyway. |
LWolf |
Dec-31-06 02:11 PM |
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I support the DP, even though its not 100% accurate. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 02:52 PM |
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So life means nothing to you? |
Solon |
Dec-31-06 03:02 PM |
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All mistakes are preventable. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 03:18 PM |
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But the DP isn't necessary in today's society... |
Solon |
Dec-31-06 05:20 PM |
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LOL |
trumad |
Dec-31-06 06:11 PM |
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Hypocrite. I bet you drive a car. |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:16 PM |
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I hate knuckleheads |
trumad |
Jan-01-07 01:43 PM |
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Nice. How long did that reply take you to think up? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:45 PM |
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It took me two words into your last post... |
trumad |
Jan-01-07 09:48 PM |
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Lame |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 01:46 PM |
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I bet you're one of those car-driving hypocrites, too, arent ya? -nt |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:49 PM |
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Actually no, I'm a pedestrian |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 01:51 PM |
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Really? What is illogical about it? |
rpgamerd00d |
Jan-01-07 01:55 PM |
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a better question what is logical about it? |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 02:03 PM |
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Jan-01-07 10:30 PM |
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Yeah, you told me off or something |
Moochy |
Jan-01-07 11:01 PM |
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I won't respect death penalty supporters... |
NorthernSpy |
Dec-31-06 03:05 PM |
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Sure, as soon as you kill yourself if you get into a car accident which results in a death. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 03:19 PM |
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nope: killing for justice is YOUR principle, so YOU live up to it... |
NorthernSpy |
Dec-31-06 04:21 PM |
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Driving for profit is YOUR principle, so YOU live up to it ... |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-31-06 04:41 PM |
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O-kaaaaayyyy.... |
NorthernSpy |
Dec-31-06 04:51 PM |
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No. And that is 1 reason I do not. eom |
uppityperson |
Dec-31-06 03:13 PM |
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No; and those that can should be able to accept vigilante justice as well. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-31-06 04:37 PM |
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No, I can't--but then I don't support the death penalty anyway. |
Raksha |
Dec-31-06 05:23 PM |
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I will never support state-sponsored revenge. |
Blue-Jay |
Dec-31-06 06:22 PM |
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Absoutely not. |
jeffrey_X |
Dec-31-06 07:19 PM |
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I have NEVER supported the death penalty. that's one good reason. n/t |
garybeck |
Dec-31-06 07:30 PM |
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There are other reasons to be against it, but that one suffices,... |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-31-06 07:31 PM |
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next to abortion |
leftofthedial |
Jan-01-07 12:31 AM |
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Overall, I Don't Support The DP. However, When The Person Is Definitively Guilty Of Barbaric Acts, |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-01-07 12:33 AM |
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morning kick |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-01-07 08:46 AM |
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I've thought about it and I've thought about it and NO I cannot support the death penalty |
madokie |
Jan-01-07 01:21 PM |
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"It won't effect me" |
mdmc |
Jan-01-07 01:31 PM |
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Nope nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jan-01-07 01:50 PM |
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They will support it right up until THEY get wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death. |
Zhade |
Jan-01-07 02:52 PM |
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