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Fri Dec-29-06 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
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You don't have different sets of laws based on different ideologies. It's either wrong for the government to buy up all the media, and ban what it can't buy, or it's not. That's really all there is to it.
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| -Bad precedent in Venezuela |
dannofoot |
Dec-28-06 07:39 PM |
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Uhm, you do know they SUPPORTED a coup, right? |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 07:41 PM |
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Uhm, you do know Chavez attempted a coup |
sandnsea |
Dec-28-06 07:55 PM |
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Do we always have to go over this... |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 08:09 PM |
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So.What. |
sandnsea |
Dec-28-06 08:12 PM |
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First, its not outlawing opposition media... |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 08:25 PM |
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"First they came for RCTV..." |
dannofoot |
Dec-28-06 08:45 PM |
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True, they always come for the extreme opposition, then they come... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-28-06 08:48 PM |
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It was due to his attempt to get Carlos Andres Perez outta office which |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-28-06 09:34 PM |
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And how did he get elected? |
sandnsea |
Dec-28-06 10:18 PM |
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Don't try to learn much about the subjects you discuss, do you? |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-28-06 11:02 PM |
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Wow. Again. SO WHAT |
sandnsea |
Dec-28-06 11:27 PM |
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He was pardoned, and the people who would've jailed him were sacked by the people themselves. |
Selatius |
Dec-29-06 12:05 PM |
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If Al Gore had taken the Presidency in 2000 |
sandnsea |
Dec-29-06 01:12 PM |
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FOX wasn't guilty of calling for the assassination of Al Gore. Not the same thing. |
Selatius |
Dec-29-06 01:29 PM |
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Null and void? |
sandnsea |
Dec-29-06 02:09 PM |
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You're comparing apples and oranges at this point. |
Selatius |
Dec-29-06 07:28 PM |
#86 |
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The law is the law |
sandnsea |
Dec-29-06 07:39 PM |
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The law said the president can pardon, and the president pardoned Chavez. |
Selatius |
Dec-29-06 08:01 PM |
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See #82 |
sandnsea |
Dec-29-06 08:36 PM |
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your comparisons still very bad |
booley |
Dec-29-06 01:48 PM |
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Dictators shut down all media |
sandnsea |
Dec-29-06 02:14 PM |
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That's ironic. The opposite of privatizing public works. |
roody |
Dec-29-06 11:35 PM |
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Your point seems flawed |
booley |
Dec-29-06 01:41 PM |
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Well, right now he happens to be THE legitimate President of Venzuela... |
Flubadubya |
Dec-28-06 07:52 PM |
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I think that's baloney. You need to wake up and smell the coffee... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-28-06 08:25 PM |
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So people should be free to broadcast their intention to overthrow the government? |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 08:30 PM |
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In America, as in most countries around the world, advocating the overthrow... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-28-06 08:33 PM |
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And what do you do when the station owner, managers, and reporters... |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 08:47 PM |
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I am so sorry you don't believe in freedom of speech... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-28-06 08:56 PM |
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You just said that advocating the overthrow of a government is illegal... |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 09:00 PM |
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The whole station should be allowed to continue... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-29-06 02:13 PM |
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Oh for christsake! |
TankLV |
Dec-29-06 01:10 AM |
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I'm sorry, but there is a difference between the entire station and... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-29-06 02:14 PM |
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Wow, nice sidestepping of Solon's response to yours. |
Selatius |
Dec-29-06 12:09 PM |
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Prosecutors can be replaced. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-29-06 02:15 PM |
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"Revoke"..."Not renew"... |
dannofoot |
Dec-28-06 09:04 PM |
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Uhm, the government isn't obligated to renew licenses... |
Solon |
Dec-28-06 09:09 PM |
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Isn't that what happened |
zidzi |
Dec-29-06 08:58 PM |
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You're right. Instead of suppressing free speech, |
ThomCat |
Dec-28-06 10:16 PM |
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LOL |
malaise |
Dec-29-06 06:40 AM |
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Codswallop! |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-29-06 08:34 AM |
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Amen. |
JacksonWest |
Dec-29-06 07:49 PM |
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What do you think would happen if CNN would start calling for a coup |
rman |
Dec-30-06 05:22 AM |
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He Promised He'd Do This But I Still Find It A Shame He Went Ahead With This. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-28-06 08:27 PM |
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It's absolutely terrifying what lengths people on DU will go to... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-28-06 08:31 PM |
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Exactly. Fully Agreed. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-28-06 08:32 PM |
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As "The Nation" wrote: |
dannofoot |
Dec-28-06 08:59 PM |
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Where Were You in 2002? |
Crisco |
Dec-28-06 09:00 PM |
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In grad school... |
dannofoot |
Dec-28-06 09:07 PM |
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supporting a coup = "opposing viewpoint"? - you are a coup apologist |
rman |
Dec-29-06 08:13 AM |
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He did nothing. He gave a speech. He talked tough. The end. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-29-06 02:00 PM |
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Say it aint so |
DocSavage |
Dec-28-06 08:54 PM |
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He isn't shutting down media that disagrees (no apostrophe) w/him |
Pastiche423 |
Dec-28-06 09:22 PM |
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Can't wait to see if the same defend Bush for shutting down TV stations or |
RGBolen |
Dec-28-06 08:59 PM |
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If My Local TV Station Went 24/7 Telling People to Get In the Streets |
Crisco |
Dec-28-06 09:02 PM |
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"My local TV station"... |
dannofoot |
Dec-28-06 09:18 PM |
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I'm missing your point |
mitchtv |
Dec-28-06 09:54 PM |
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Won't |
DocSavage |
Dec-29-06 06:31 AM |
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Venezuela and Cuba are not the same country |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-29-06 07:54 AM |
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I now see it so clearly. Chavez and Bush are so alike. |
tom_paine |
Dec-28-06 09:35 PM |
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you forgot the sarcasm tag |
rman |
Dec-29-06 08:28 AM |
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Sir, you presume wrong. |
tom_paine |
Dec-29-06 01:38 PM |
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Given that the US supports the opposition to Chavez, it is completely ridiculous |
rman |
Dec-30-06 05:08 AM |
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I'm with tom_paine on that one |
dmesg |
Dec-29-06 01:55 PM |
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You say Bush and Chavez are alike, but don't make the case |
rman |
Dec-30-06 05:09 AM |
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What do you know of the rights and freedoms of Venezuela? |
Toots |
Dec-29-06 09:01 AM |
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How extremely low has our government sunk |
roody |
Dec-29-06 12:15 PM |
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the owners of the station should be in jail |
mitchtv |
Dec-28-06 09:52 PM |
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Oy vey...Give it up man. Chavez is the future and the Plutocrats can suck ass. |
JanMichael |
Dec-28-06 10:15 PM |
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Good |
dave_p |
Dec-28-06 10:16 PM |
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Nice point, Dave and welcome to DU |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Dec-29-06 02:05 PM |
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I'm curious: what do you think would happen to a broadcast license in the USA... |
0rganism |
Dec-28-06 10:33 PM |
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Chavez SHOULD shut that station down, |
SanCristobal |
Dec-28-06 10:47 PM |
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Just join up so you could post that gem? |
TankLV |
Dec-29-06 01:12 AM |
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No, I joined so I could argue about minimum wage |
SanCristobal |
Dec-29-06 09:02 AM |
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On DU, Chavez is sacrosanct, you'll find |
dmesg |
Dec-29-06 01:57 PM |
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big diff |
leftchick |
Dec-29-06 02:47 PM |
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impeachment = coup? - another coup appologist |
rman |
Dec-29-06 08:30 AM |
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I think you're conflating two events |
dmesg |
Dec-29-06 02:05 PM |
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The reason why Chavez shut down that TV station |
rman |
Dec-30-06 05:30 AM |
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Who initiated the referendum? |
roody |
Dec-29-06 12:18 PM |
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When the press isn't the press |
calzone |
Dec-28-06 10:59 PM |
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excellent links, thank you - nt |
Nabia2004 |
Dec-28-06 11:21 PM |
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You're quite welcome. :-) n/t |
calzone |
Dec-28-06 11:34 PM |
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Great post and links - I'll add this one |
bananas |
Dec-29-06 12:37 AM |
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I've been scanning your excellent links, and found one which has |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-29-06 02:49 AM |
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Thanks bananas & Judi Lynn |
calzone |
Dec-29-06 10:52 AM |
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Reporters Without Borders Unmasked |
bananas |
Dec-29-06 02:19 AM |
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Wow. What a sleazy web |
calzone |
Dec-29-06 11:58 AM |
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Yeah. Total scum. Although they were instrumental in saving Jill Carroll. |
JacksonWest |
Dec-29-06 07:56 PM |
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I'm not familiar with that involvement.... |
calzone |
Dec-30-06 01:26 PM |
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"Regicide" is still the worst crime in the world. |
genie_weenie |
Dec-29-06 07:14 AM |
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That's actually incorrect... |
Solon |
Dec-29-06 08:55 AM |
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What precedent has the US corporately owned media set? |
Larry Ogg |
Dec-29-06 11:11 AM |
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Sedition (advocacy of armed/violent overthrow of the government) is unlawful in the US, too. |
TahitiNut |
Dec-29-06 11:19 AM |
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Here's some violations of freedom of the press that are a bit closer to "home" |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-29-06 11:43 AM |
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this is SOP for South American dictators. nt. |
k_jerome |
Dec-29-06 12:01 PM |
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only for democratically elected 'dictators' that do not have US interests |
rman |
Dec-30-06 07:10 AM |
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I wish we had a leader who would do the same |
roody |
Dec-29-06 12:08 PM |
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This is the most irresponsible thread I've ever seen. |
JacksonWest |
Dec-29-06 07:55 PM |
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The air waves belong to the public. We should be |
roody |
Dec-29-06 11:31 PM |
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People often confuse their interest with the public interest. |
JacksonWest |
Dec-29-06 11:41 PM |
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LOL you must be new here |
rman |
Dec-30-06 05:18 AM |
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If they had a material role in the coup why does it take five years to shut them down? |
JacksonWest |
Dec-31-06 02:56 PM |
#104 |
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