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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. The law is the law
You don't have different sets of laws based on different ideologies. It's either wrong for the government to buy up all the media, and ban what it can't buy, or it's not. That's really all there is to it.
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  -Bad precedent in Venezuela dannofoot  Dec-28-06 07:39 PM   #0 
  - Uhm, you do know they SUPPORTED a coup, right?  Solon   Dec-28-06 07:41 PM   #1 
  - Uhm, you do know Chavez attempted a coup  sandnsea   Dec-28-06 07:55 PM   #3 
     - Do we always have to go over this...  Solon   Dec-28-06 08:09 PM   #4 
        - So.What.  sandnsea   Dec-28-06 08:12 PM   #5 
           - First, its not outlawing opposition media...  Solon   Dec-28-06 08:25 PM   #6 
           - "First they came for RCTV..."  dannofoot   Dec-28-06 08:45 PM   #13 
              - True, they always come for the extreme opposition, then they come...  originalpckelly   Dec-28-06 08:48 PM   #15 
           - It was due to his attempt to get Carlos Andres Perez outta office which  Judi Lynn   Dec-28-06 09:34 PM   #28 
              - And how did he get elected?  sandnsea   Dec-28-06 10:18 PM   #35 
                 - Don't try to learn much about the subjects you discuss, do you?  Judi Lynn   Dec-28-06 11:02 PM   #39 
                    - Wow. Again. SO WHAT  sandnsea   Dec-28-06 11:27 PM   #41 
                       - He was pardoned, and the people who would've jailed him were sacked by the people themselves.  Selatius   Dec-29-06 12:05 PM   #65 
                       - If Al Gore had taken the Presidency in 2000  sandnsea   Dec-29-06 01:12 PM   #70 
                          - FOX wasn't guilty of calling for the assassination of Al Gore. Not the same thing.  Selatius   Dec-29-06 01:29 PM   #71 
                          - Null and void?  sandnsea   Dec-29-06 02:09 PM   #80 
                             - You're comparing apples and oranges at this point.  Selatius   Dec-29-06 07:28 PM   #86 
                                - The law is the law  sandnsea   Dec-29-06 07:39 PM   #87 
                                   - The law said the president can pardon, and the president pardoned Chavez.  Selatius   Dec-29-06 08:01 PM   #91 
                                      - See #82  sandnsea   Dec-29-06 08:36 PM   #92 
                          - your comparisons still very bad  booley   Dec-29-06 01:48 PM   #74 
                             - Dictators shut down all media  sandnsea   Dec-29-06 02:14 PM   #82 
                                - That's ironic. The opposite of privatizing public works.  roody   Dec-29-06 11:35 PM   #95 
                       - Your point seems flawed  booley   Dec-29-06 01:41 PM   #73 
  - Well, right now he happens to be THE legitimate President of Venzuela...  Flubadubya   Dec-28-06 07:52 PM   #2 
  - I think that's baloney. You need to wake up and smell the coffee...  originalpckelly   Dec-28-06 08:25 PM   #7 
     - So people should be free to broadcast their intention to overthrow the government?  Solon   Dec-28-06 08:30 PM   #9 
     - In America, as in most countries around the world, advocating the overthrow...  originalpckelly   Dec-28-06 08:33 PM   #12 
     - And what do you do when the station owner, managers, and reporters...  Solon   Dec-28-06 08:47 PM   #14 
        - I am so sorry you don't believe in freedom of speech...  originalpckelly   Dec-28-06 08:56 PM   #17 
        - You just said that advocating the overthrow of a government is illegal...  Solon   Dec-28-06 09:00 PM   #20 
        - The whole station should be allowed to continue...  originalpckelly   Dec-29-06 02:13 PM   #81 
        - Oh for christsake!  TankLV   Dec-29-06 01:10 AM   #44 
        - I'm sorry, but there is a difference between the entire station and...  originalpckelly   Dec-29-06 02:14 PM   #83 
        - Wow, nice sidestepping of Solon's response to yours.  Selatius   Dec-29-06 12:09 PM   #67 
           - Prosecutors can be replaced.  originalpckelly   Dec-29-06 02:15 PM   #84 
        - "Revoke"..."Not renew"...  dannofoot   Dec-28-06 09:04 PM   #23 
           - Uhm, the government isn't obligated to renew licenses...  Solon   Dec-28-06 09:09 PM   #25 
     - Isn't that what happened  zidzi   Dec-29-06 08:58 PM   #93 
     - You're right. Instead of suppressing free speech,  ThomCat   Dec-28-06 10:16 PM   #34 
     - LOL  malaise   Dec-29-06 06:40 AM   #49 
     - Codswallop!  Lilith Velkor   Dec-29-06 08:34 AM   #55 
     - Amen.  JacksonWest   Dec-29-06 07:49 PM   #88 
     - What do you think would happen if CNN would start calling for a coup  rman   Dec-30-06 05:22 AM   #100 
  - He Promised He'd Do This But I Still Find It A Shame He Went Ahead With This.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-28-06 08:27 PM   #8 
  - It's absolutely terrifying what lengths people on DU will go to...  originalpckelly   Dec-28-06 08:31 PM   #10 
  - Exactly. Fully Agreed.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-28-06 08:32 PM   #11 
  - As "The Nation" wrote:  dannofoot   Dec-28-06 08:59 PM   #18 
  - Where Were You in 2002?  Crisco   Dec-28-06 09:00 PM   #21 
  - In grad school...  dannofoot   Dec-28-06 09:07 PM   #24 
  - supporting a coup = "opposing viewpoint"? - you are a coup apologist  rman   Dec-29-06 08:13 AM   #52 
  - He did nothing. He gave a speech. He talked tough. The end.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-29-06 02:00 PM   #77 
  - Say it aint so  DocSavage   Dec-28-06 08:54 PM   #16 
  - He isn't shutting down media that disagrees (no apostrophe) w/him  Pastiche423   Dec-28-06 09:22 PM   #27 
  - Can't wait to see if the same defend Bush for shutting down TV stations or  RGBolen   Dec-28-06 08:59 PM   #19 
  - If My Local TV Station Went 24/7 Telling People to Get In the Streets  Crisco   Dec-28-06 09:02 PM   #22 
  - "My local TV station"...  dannofoot   Dec-28-06 09:18 PM   #26 
     - I'm missing your point  mitchtv   Dec-28-06 09:54 PM   #31 
  - Won't  DocSavage   Dec-29-06 06:31 AM   #48 
     - Venezuela and Cuba are not the same country  Lilith Velkor   Dec-29-06 07:54 AM   #51 
  - I now see it so clearly. Chavez and Bush are so alike.  tom_paine   Dec-28-06 09:35 PM   #29 
  - you forgot the sarcasm tag  rman   Dec-29-06 08:28 AM   #53 
  - Sir, you presume wrong.  tom_paine   Dec-29-06 01:38 PM   #72 
  - Given that the US supports the opposition to Chavez, it is completely ridiculous  rman   Dec-30-06 05:08 AM   #97 
  - I'm with tom_paine on that one  dmesg   Dec-29-06 01:55 PM   #75 
     - You say Bush and Chavez are alike, but don't make the case  rman   Dec-30-06 05:09 AM   #98 
  - What do you know of the rights and freedoms of Venezuela?  Toots   Dec-29-06 09:01 AM   #57 
     - How extremely low has our government sunk  roody   Dec-29-06 12:15 PM   #68 
  - the owners of the station should be in jail  mitchtv   Dec-28-06 09:52 PM   #30 
  - Oy vey...Give it up man. Chavez is the future and the Plutocrats can suck ass.  JanMichael   Dec-28-06 10:15 PM   #32 
  - Good  dave_p   Dec-28-06 10:16 PM   #33 
  - Nice point, Dave and welcome to DU  Zodiak Ironfist   Dec-29-06 02:05 PM   #78 
  - I'm curious: what do you think would happen to a broadcast license in the USA...  0rganism   Dec-28-06 10:33 PM   #36 
  - Chavez SHOULD shut that station down,  SanCristobal   Dec-28-06 10:47 PM   #37 
  - Just join up so you could post that gem?  TankLV   Dec-29-06 01:12 AM   #45 
  - No, I joined so I could argue about minimum wage  SanCristobal   Dec-29-06 09:02 AM   #58 
     - On DU, Chavez is sacrosanct, you'll find  dmesg   Dec-29-06 01:57 PM   #76 
        - big diff  leftchick   Dec-29-06 02:47 PM   #85 
  - impeachment = coup? - another coup appologist  rman   Dec-29-06 08:30 AM   #54 
  - I think you're conflating two events  dmesg   Dec-29-06 02:05 PM   #79 
     - The reason why Chavez shut down that TV station  rman   Dec-30-06 05:30 AM   #101 
  - Who initiated the referendum?  roody   Dec-29-06 12:18 PM   #69 
  - When the press isn't the press  calzone   Dec-28-06 10:59 PM   #38 
  - excellent links, thank you - nt  Nabia2004   Dec-28-06 11:21 PM   #40 
  - You're quite welcome. :-) n/t  calzone   Dec-28-06 11:34 PM   #42 
  - Great post and links - I'll add this one  bananas   Dec-29-06 12:37 AM   #43 
  - I've been scanning your excellent links, and found one which has  Judi Lynn   Dec-29-06 02:49 AM   #47 
  - Thanks bananas & Judi Lynn  calzone   Dec-29-06 10:52 AM   #59 
  - Reporters Without Borders Unmasked  bananas   Dec-29-06 02:19 AM   #46 
  - Wow. What a sleazy web  calzone   Dec-29-06 11:58 AM   #63 
     - Yeah. Total scum. Although they were instrumental in saving Jill Carroll.  JacksonWest   Dec-29-06 07:56 PM   #90 
        - I'm not familiar with that involvement....  calzone   Dec-30-06 01:26 PM   #103 
  - "Regicide" is still the worst crime in the world.  genie_weenie   Dec-29-06 07:14 AM   #50 
  - That's actually incorrect...  Solon   Dec-29-06 08:55 AM   #56 
  - What precedent has the US corporately owned media set?  Larry Ogg   Dec-29-06 11:11 AM   #60 
  - Sedition (advocacy of armed/violent overthrow of the government) is unlawful in the US, too.  TahitiNut   Dec-29-06 11:19 AM   #61 
  - Here's some violations of freedom of the press that are a bit closer to "home"  Ms. Clio   Dec-29-06 11:43 AM   #62 
  - this is SOP for South American dictators. nt.  k_jerome   Dec-29-06 12:01 PM   #64 
  - only for democratically elected 'dictators' that do not have US interests  rman   Dec-30-06 07:10 AM   #102 
  - I wish we had a leader who would do the same  roody   Dec-29-06 12:08 PM   #66 
     - This is the most irresponsible thread I've ever seen.  JacksonWest   Dec-29-06 07:55 PM   #89 
        - The air waves belong to the public. We should be  roody   Dec-29-06 11:31 PM   #94 
        - People often confuse their interest with the public interest.  JacksonWest   Dec-29-06 11:41 PM   #96 
        - LOL you must be new here  rman   Dec-30-06 05:18 AM   #99 
           - If they had a material role in the coup why does it take five years to shut them down?  JacksonWest   Dec-31-06 02:56 PM   #104 
 

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