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195. Kolbe is that the last name of a saint ...
"On 28 May 1941 he was transferred to Auschwitz and branded as prisoner 16670. He was assigned to a special work group staffed by priests and supervised by especially vicious and abusive guards. His calm dedication to the faith brought him the worst jobs available, and more beatings than anyone else. At one point he was beaten, lashed, and left for dead. The prisoners managed to smuggle him into the camp hospital where he spent his recovery time hearing confessions. When he returned to the camp, Maximilian ministered to other prisoners, including conducting Mass and delivering communion using smuggled bread and wine.

In July 1941 there was an escape from the camp. Camp protocol, designed to make the prisoners guard each other, required that ten men be slaughtered in retribution for each escaped prisoner. Francis Gajowniczek, a married man with young children was chosen to die for the escape. Maximilian volunteered to take his place, and died as he had always wished - in service.
Born"



so i dont see why it is a dumb name.
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  -How many kids are enough? The Straight Story  Dec-21-06 04:50 PM   #0 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-21-06 04:52 PM   #1 
  - one of my great friends has 7...  fleabert   Dec-21-06 04:53 PM   #2 
  - Colbert is the youngest of 7.  JacksonWest   Dec-21-06 05:19 PM   #45 
     - Actually  MonkeyFunk   Dec-21-06 06:49 PM   #127 
        - Wonder how he would feel about  Lurking Dem   Dec-21-06 06:51 PM   #129 
           - i suspect he'd find humor in it  MonkeyFunk   Dec-21-06 06:55 PM   #134 
           - Since he had no choice in how many siblings...  geardaddy   Dec-21-06 08:56 PM   #169 
              - He has three -- one girl and two boys.  Oregonian   Dec-23-06 12:17 PM   #271 
  - Any more than 2 is irresponsible  Taverner   Dec-21-06 04:53 PM   #3 
  - Really? How so? nt  Common Sense Party   Dec-21-06 05:15 PM   #41 
  - With 2 kids you are just replacing yourselves  Taverner   Dec-21-06 05:21 PM   #47 
     - Good luck. You can't curb population growth within the bounds of our constitution.  JacksonWest   Dec-21-06 05:31 PM   #52 
     - Just because I disagree with it  Taverner   Dec-21-06 05:41 PM   #63 
     - So is utter stupidity and greed.  karlrschneider   Dec-21-06 05:42 PM   #65 
     - There's no law against being stupid.  quantessd   Dec-22-06 02:33 AM   #200 
     - Amend the constitution then.  Crandor   Dec-21-06 05:42 PM   #66 
        - Legislation is not the solution  Taverner   Dec-21-06 06:40 PM   #122 
     - Well, my number #3 child is the one that I am particularly...  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 01:57 AM   #197 
     - No Necessarily True  RC Quake   Dec-22-06 12:39 PM   #218 
        - You are correct.  Lurking Dem   Dec-22-06 12:42 PM   #219 
           - Why do you think that is?  RC Quake   Dec-22-06 12:50 PM   #220 
              - Likely because  Lurking Dem   Dec-22-06 03:37 PM   #243 
              - Untreated stds  Nikia   Dec-23-06 11:35 AM   #267 
  - Oh jeez..  IA_Seth   Dec-21-06 05:39 PM   #61 
  - What if your 3rd child was the second coming of George Bush?  jgraz   Dec-21-06 06:45 PM   #125 
  - How many will die in Iraq??  Imagevision   Dec-21-06 08:35 PM   #157 
  - Does that 3rd child somehow require more resources  Pithlet   Dec-21-06 09:23 PM   #174 
  - I think they actually require less  Nikia   Dec-23-06 11:49 AM   #269 
  - The upside I've noticed is that kids from very large families...  trotsky   Dec-22-06 07:38 AM   #209 
     - You got it  shrike   Dec-22-06 01:12 PM   #227 
     - That's certainly my experience  texastoast   Dec-22-06 03:11 PM   #242 
  - At least they shop at Costco  geardaddy   Dec-21-06 04:54 PM   #4 
  - Kolbe is that the last name of a saint ...  frankenforpres   Dec-22-06 01:50 AM   #195 
     - Duly noted. n/t  geardaddy   Dec-22-06 09:09 AM   #211 
  - That's a personal choice  Alenne   Dec-21-06 04:54 PM   #5 
  - If you live on Earth, you should care.  Crandor   Dec-21-06 05:44 PM   #71 
     - I don't care  Alenne   Dec-21-06 05:55 PM   #85 
     - But this isn't the norm. And, frankly, I think that those who choose to have  Midlodemocrat   Dec-21-06 06:06 PM   #95 
        - It's just one more thing for people to feel smug about.  Pithlet   Dec-21-06 09:32 PM   #178 
        - "I think that those who choose to have a lot of kids..."  tabasco   Dec-22-06 12:57 PM   #222 
           - My point was that it isn't the norm to have seven children.  Midlodemocrat   Dec-23-06 10:36 AM   #262 
  - When I was growing up  Blue Gardener   Dec-21-06 04:54 PM   #6 
  - condoms have been available since the 1500s  maxsolomon   Dec-21-06 06:39 PM   #121 
  - What do you bet that most of those Catholic parents has some  Clark2008   Dec-23-06 03:07 PM   #275 
  - I grew up in a city of 100,000 and not one of the  ikojo   Dec-21-06 07:59 PM   #147 
  - their diets are not exactly healthy  leftchick   Dec-21-06 04:55 PM   #7 
  - That seemed like a lot of food for regular breakfast  Nikia   Dec-23-06 12:20 PM   #272 
  - As many as you can properly care for.  shaniqua6392   Dec-21-06 04:56 PM   #8 
  - How many kids are enough? When they start impacting my quality of life.  WindRavenX   Dec-21-06 04:57 PM   #9 
  - You remind me again why I'm not in line for an ambassadorship any time soon.  karlrschneider   Dec-21-06 05:00 PM   #14 
  - like I'd be one either  WindRavenX   Dec-21-06 05:01 PM   #18 
  - Does the child who has 12 siblings take up more resources  Pithlet   Dec-21-06 09:13 PM   #172 
     - um, duh?  WindRavenX   Dec-22-06 01:48 AM   #194 
        - Well, that was easy. n/t  Pithlet   Dec-22-06 01:56 AM   #196 
  - This mother of three says..... ONE is perfect  SoCalDem   Dec-21-06 04:58 PM   #10 
  - God you're worrying me and I have two!  Taverner   Dec-21-06 06:58 PM   #138 
  - How many kids are enough?  jeff30997   Dec-21-06 04:58 PM   #11 
  - He breeds dairy cattle?  TahitiNut   Dec-21-06 04:58 PM   #12 
  - Don't work the breeding stock  bmbmd   Dec-23-06 03:53 PM   #277 
  - Seven or eight is definitely reaching the limit of "too many" for one family  brentspeak   Dec-21-06 04:58 PM   #13 
  - The flipside is that often the older ones of the large families  SoCalDem   Dec-21-06 05:04 PM   #22 
     - That's unfortunate, though.  brentspeak   Dec-21-06 05:06 PM   #28 
     - Not necessarily unhappy, just a true knowledge of how hard it is  SoCalDem   Dec-21-06 05:14 PM   #37 
     - or lucky!  HuffleClaw   Dec-21-06 08:32 PM   #156 
     - I didn't have an unhappy upbringing,  BlackVelvet04   Dec-21-06 08:41 PM   #160 
        - 'Just give those nieces and nephews lots of love and...  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:17 AM   #198 
     - So true.  tenshi816   Dec-21-06 05:48 PM   #78 
     - The last time I raised that flipside  Gormy Cuss   Dec-21-06 05:48 PM   #79 
     - that is what Grandpa thought- #10 of 10  kineneb   Dec-21-06 06:53 PM   #130 
     - I am the youngest girl in a family of seven and  ikojo   Dec-21-06 06:55 PM   #135 
     - That's not limited to the older ones in a large family.....  smokey nj   Dec-21-06 08:39 PM   #159 
  - However many the specific parents want. It's none of my business. Or anyone else's.  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:00 PM   #15 
  - Wow! Common sense and respect for others' freedom isn't dead  Common Sense Party   Dec-21-06 05:15 PM   #38 
  - Is it just me, or is "Common Sense" being used more and more as a synonym for "Thoughtlessness"?  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:23 PM   #49 
  - Yes, it's just you. It's not my business, nor is it yours, to tell other people how to  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:41 PM   #64 
  - How dare you tell me not to tell people what to do!  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:43 PM   #67 
     - Nope, I'm not telling you what you can or can't do. Just expressing an opinion.  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:46 PM   #76 
  - LOL. See the definitions of sanctimonious and self righteous.  rinsd   Dec-21-06 05:43 PM   #68 
  - Don't sweat the details, here. This is just someone who doesn't like me, so he or she  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:51 PM   #81 
     - You flatter yourself  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:54 PM   #84 
  - Yep - just you.  Balbus   Dec-21-06 06:17 PM   #106 
  - It's not my business to tell other people what to do or not to do. Can you tell that  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:38 PM   #60 
     - Do you tell people to vote Democratic?  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:40 PM   #62 
        - Yes, it is. I'm PERFECTLY "cool with that." I can encourage, I can advise, but  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:44 PM   #70 
           - Quit parsing. It's called "advocacy"  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:46 PM   #75 
              - You can advocate all you want. But you can't TELL people what to do.  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:49 PM   #80 
                 - Sounds like we agree  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:52 PM   #82 
                    - Well, yes, that is my point! Too many people here are issuing broad, command-like  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:55 PM   #86 
                       - Hell, that's the fun part about the internet  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:57 PM   #88 
                          - I suspect you're right. People get a place to vent, then they calm down. An interesting  Redstone   Dec-21-06 06:02 PM   #89 
                          - Hahahahaha!!!  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 06:10 PM   #100 
  - Thank you, Redstone....  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:26 AM   #199 
  - I agree with your opinion.  NaturalHigh   Dec-21-06 05:00 PM   #16 
  - It's irresponsible  texastoast   Dec-21-06 05:09 PM   #30 
     - yes, I think every country should raise this issue.  rodeodance   Dec-21-06 06:10 PM   #99 
     - I guess I'm not into China-style social planning.  NaturalHigh   Dec-21-06 07:08 PM   #139 
        - I don't know  texastoast   Dec-22-06 03:04 PM   #240 
           - I respect your opinion.  NaturalHigh   Dec-22-06 04:04 PM   #245 
  - Thanks to those proud patriots, the USA will soon  HypnoToad   Dec-21-06 05:01 PM   #17 
  - I think the Earth will ultimately take care of itself  alarimer   Dec-21-06 06:57 PM   #137 
  - Personal choice or not, it's selfish, irresponsible and ultimately destructive  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:02 PM   #19 
  - said better than I could have  WindRavenX   Dec-21-06 05:04 PM   #24 
  - And btw, when you look at that photo, picture 90 third-world children  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:08 PM   # 
     - $36,000/year just in groceries!  TahitiNut   Dec-21-06 05:12 PM   #36 
  - The media loves making everything oddball, obscene, or illegal the norm.  HypnoToad   Dec-21-06 07:31 PM   #144 
  - "Blessed is the man whose quiver is full."  TahitiNut   Dec-21-06 05:03 PM   #20 
  - Oh Jeez.. now you're tryin' to scare the cows..  SoCalDem   Dec-21-06 05:05 PM   #25 
     - (deleted duplicate)  TahitiNut   Dec-21-06 05:08 PM   #29 
     - Loose boots! Daddy could use a pair of loose boots for Christmas!  TahitiNut   Dec-21-06 05:09 PM   #31 
  - More than replacement is too many.  GoneOffShore   Dec-21-06 05:03 PM   #21 
  - more than 2  leftofthedial   Dec-21-06 05:04 PM   #23 
  - Believe me, my Yuppie friends with no children....  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:39 AM   #201 
     - overconsumption (SUV's, etc.) is a seperate issue  leftofthedial   Dec-22-06 01:13 PM   #228 
        - But, the claim being made here is that having more...  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 01:58 PM   #233 
           - by far, the number one strain on resources is overpopulation  leftofthedial   Dec-22-06 03:00 PM   #238 
              - Overpopulation and overconsumption are the same thing...  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 09:29 PM   #258 
                 - I'm not judging backwards  leftofthedial   Dec-22-06 10:04 PM   # 
                 - I'm not judging backwards  leftofthedial   Dec-22-06 10:04 PM   #259 
  - Absolutely not more than 2, at least for a while  texastoast   Dec-21-06 05:06 PM   #26 
  - Would you make that a law if you could? Would you support others that would?  JacksonWest   Dec-21-06 05:20 PM   #46 
     - The obvious solution is to eliminate tax exemptions for any over 2.  karlrschneider   Dec-21-06 05:31 PM   #51 
     - Bingo -- you want to squirt out a litter, don't make me pay for it  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:35 PM   #56 
     - Once again, you run into problems with the constitution. Equal protection under the law....  JacksonWest   Dec-22-06 07:28 AM   #207 
        - Not an equal protection problem. It would apply to all classes. NT  mondo joe   Dec-23-06 11:28 AM   #266 
        - It wouldn't apply to the first two children.  JacksonWest   Dec-26-06 12:42 PM   #281 
        - What rubbish. Tax rates already vary based on number of children.  mainegreen   Dec-26-06 12:54 PM   #282 
     - Interesting thought. There can't be any laws against people having  treestar   Dec-21-06 05:44 PM   #69 
     - Another Reason for Selfish People to Excessively Breed.  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 06:25 PM   #112 
     - What a fine idea! Because those brats should have known better  Pithlet   Dec-21-06 09:50 PM   #180 
     - Yes, as I said upthread, my third child would be devastated....  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:46 AM   #203 
     - I'm uncertain as to why we subsidize ANY - and I have a son.  Zhade   Dec-21-06 10:54 PM   #182 
     - The NRA has a better solution  toddaa   Dec-22-06 04:45 PM   #251 
     - legal prohibition is a straw man  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:34 PM   #54 
     - then you should have no problem when people point out that your self-righteousness  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 06:21 PM   #108 
        - Not at all -- I may disagree with your charaterization, but...  jgraz   Dec-21-06 06:50 PM   #128 
     - No.  texastoast   Dec-22-06 02:56 PM   #236 
        - Self-delete.  bezdomny   Dec-24-06 01:20 AM   #279 
  - My wife & I decided to stick with cats.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-21-06 05:06 PM   #27 
  - But HOW MANY cats??????  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:09 PM   #33 
     - Most municipalities have laws against more than 3-4 dogs or cats  TahitiNut   Dec-21-06 05:15 PM   #39 
     - They also have laws how many PEOPLE can inhabit an apartment  HockeyMom   Dec-21-06 05:45 PM   #73 
     - Two, but their small eaters and haven't demanded a car for graduation.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-21-06 05:15 PM   #40 
        - If they do, buy them a Hummer. After all, it's a personal choice.  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:16 PM   #42 
           - They'd prefer a Jaguar.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-21-06 05:33 PM   #53 
  - I know someone pregnant with her eight or ninth. I've lost count.  Ilsa   Dec-21-06 05:09 PM   #32 
  - She probably has too  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:10 PM   #34 
     - seriously, the human body just didn't evolve for this  WindRavenX   Dec-21-06 05:11 PM   #35 
        - hell, the human body can just barely do one  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:26 PM   #50 
        - Seriously, the human body did evolve for this.  hedgehog   Dec-22-06 04:49 PM   #252 
           - ...which is why this is completely unnatural  WindRavenX   Dec-23-06 03:52 PM   #276 
  - What the hell is the mom doing to her body?  nini   Dec-21-06 05:16 PM   #43 
  - It depends on the woman  gollygee   Dec-21-06 05:45 PM   #74 
  - I know someone who practically died from this same thing..  nini   Dec-21-06 06:05 PM   #93 
  - My mom had 12 (I am her oldest)  Hardrada   Dec-21-06 08:59 PM   #170 
     - My mother also had twelve!  La_Fourmi_Rouge   Dec-22-06 01:39 AM   #193 
        - I think younger siblings have a tale to tell also.  Hardrada   Dec-22-06 12:08 PM   #213 
  - She's doing what she WANTS to do with her body. It's HER business, not yours.  Redstone   Dec-21-06 05:56 PM   #87 
  - well excuse the fuck out of me  nini   Dec-21-06 06:04 PM   #91 
  - Like I said, it's HER body. Don't we DUers stand for NOT telling women what they can  Redstone   Dec-21-06 06:31 PM   #116 
     - I'm not telling her what she can do..  nini   Dec-21-06 08:04 PM   #148 
     - it may be HER body but it's MY planet  pitohui   Dec-21-06 08:47 PM   #164 
        - How do you propose stopping a person from having...  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:55 AM   #204 
           - Exactly  gollygee   Dec-22-06 01:17 PM   #229 
              - Yes, Golly, as I just posted upthread....  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:05 PM   #234 
  - and we can talk all about it, since she put her business in the street  SemperEadem   Dec-21-06 06:13 PM   #103 
  - I get exactly ONE tax exemption, ME. Those people having litters  karlrschneider   Dec-21-06 06:24 PM   #110 
     - Wholeheartedly Agreed! n/t  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 06:28 PM   #113 
     - Well, that's not too selfish of a stance, is it?  Redstone   Dec-21-06 06:32 PM   #117 
     - I don't see how.  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 06:42 PM   #123 
     - There's some GREAT community spirit, right there. I guess we shouldn't all pay for Katrina relief,  Redstone   Dec-21-06 06:48 PM   #126 
     - But Katrina was an accident,  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 06:54 PM   #131 
        - Oh, fuck me. I give up. Go on, be selfish, enjoy your life. It's no matter to me.  Redstone   Dec-21-06 06:56 PM   #136 
           - Lol!  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 07:15 PM   #142 
           - is this an example of you valuing someone's opinion?  Beaverhausen   Dec-21-06 07:45 PM   #146 
     - are you channeling my fundie boss?  Viva_La_Revolution   Dec-22-06 12:54 AM   #191 
     - No, it isn't. Why should I have to subsidize incontinent breeders?  karlrschneider   Dec-21-06 07:10 PM   #140 
     - The same reason we subsidize "welfare queens"  gollygee   Dec-22-06 03:41 PM   #244 
     - How is it selfish AT ALL?  Zhade   Dec-21-06 10:55 PM   #183 
     - But they're the selfish ones?!?  rinsd   Dec-22-06 02:59 PM   #237 
  - I know a woman with eight kids who looks like a teenager  shrike   Dec-22-06 01:07 PM   #224 
     - Yes, it depends on the woman  nini   Dec-22-06 01:33 PM   #232 
        - self-delete  shrike   Dec-22-06 04:20 PM   #247 
        - self-delete  shrike   Dec-22-06 04:20 PM   # 
        - Yeah, that's true  shrike   Dec-22-06 04:20 PM   #248 
  - Environmentally speaking...  Redneck Socialist   Dec-21-06 05:19 PM   #44 
  - I can't help it, but every time I see these kinds of large familes, I think of  aint_no_life_nowhere   Dec-21-06 05:21 PM   #48 
  - Sounds like you're ready for vhemt.org  jgraz   Dec-21-06 06:02 PM   #90 
     - I'm not advocating something that extreme  aint_no_life_nowhere   Dec-21-06 06:09 PM   #97 
  - Gross.  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 05:34 PM   #55 
  - No, it's all about making more Christians. n/t  geardaddy   Dec-21-06 09:27 PM   #175 
  - Well, when you start tripping over your own uterus, that's nature's way of telling you to quit.  LeftyMom   Dec-21-06 05:36 PM   #57 
  - LOL! That's a very disturbing image.  Zhade   Dec-21-06 10:56 PM   #184 
  - Well, I'm torn...  melnjones   Dec-21-06 05:36 PM   #58 
  - How much you wanna bet these people vote Republican?  jgraz   Dec-21-06 05:38 PM   #59 
  - That depends on how many people you are trying to feed.  porphyrian   Dec-21-06 05:45 PM   #72 
  - LOL!  Zhade   Dec-21-06 10:57 PM   #185 
     - I knew someone else out there ate children...  porphyrian   Dec-22-06 11:55 AM   #212 
  - I only have one and we don't plan to have another  gollygee   Dec-21-06 05:47 PM   #77 
  - It's no one elses business how big, or small, a family is.  Beelzebud   Dec-21-06 05:52 PM   #83 
  - and i thought it was only fundie rightwingers who tell other people HOW TO live  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 06:04 PM   #92 
  - or circumsize them!  IA_Seth   Dec-21-06 06:09 PM   #98 
  - thanks -- self-righteousness is just as ugly on progressives as conservatives  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 06:13 PM   #102 
  - And God HELP you if you take all those kids to dinner at The Olive Garden!  Redstone   Dec-21-06 06:38 PM   #120 
  - How dare you  etherealtruth   Dec-23-06 11:16 AM   #263 
  - Considering things like this affect the global environment..  nini   Dec-21-06 08:18 PM   #154 
  - having kids is a REPRODUCTIVE RIGHT  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 06:06 PM   #94 
  - Taking a shit's a right too  jgraz   Dec-21-06 06:11 PM   #101 
  - etiquette? you want to enforce reproductive limits as a matter of etiquette?  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 06:15 PM   #104 
     - Here's what I don't get  jgraz   Dec-21-06 06:21 PM   #109 
        - it's one thing to be an advocate for democracy -- it's another to be a boor  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 06:25 PM   #111 
           - I can do both -- I'm multi-talented  jgraz   Dec-21-06 06:29 PM   #114 
           - DAMN STRAIGHT.  Zhade   Dec-21-06 11:00 PM   #187 
           - I don't see anything rude and clumsy about  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 06:36 PM   #118 
              - wow -- i've heard this before  nashville_brook   Dec-21-06 08:53 PM   #167 
                 - He also thinks I hate Christ  Lurking Dem   Dec-22-06 12:30 PM   #217 
  - But is it smart? n/t  texastoast   Dec-22-06 03:06 PM   #241 
  - Until the world population reaches a point where each additional person infringes on  mainegreen   Dec-26-06 12:57 PM   #283 
  - I only have time, energy and resources to deal with one  SemperEadem   Dec-21-06 06:07 PM   #96 
  - Well, I'm an only child and I always found it lonely....  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 03:09 AM   #205 
     - Having grown up in a large family, I can attest to the fact that  shrike   Dec-22-06 01:10 PM   #225 
     - "Guess we all want what we don't have"  Zookeeper   Dec-22-06 02:15 PM   #235 
     - yes... as is her father, too  SemperEadem   Dec-22-06 04:24 PM   #249 
  - I wanted to have a big family myself...but I would have adopted as much as  dorktv   Dec-21-06 06:16 PM   #105 
  - as many as they want and can healthily raise.  uppityperson   Dec-21-06 06:18 PM   #107 
  - My personal take  Conan_The_Barbarian   Dec-21-06 06:31 PM   #115 
  - You can't fight arithmetic. Anything over two leads to overpopulation.  eppur_se_muova   Dec-21-06 06:36 PM   #119 
  - not exactly death rate plays a role too... replacement level  JCMach1   Dec-22-06 02:40 AM   #202 
     - True but trivial. Three is over, but occasionally tolerable; five is right out.  eppur_se_muova   Dec-22-06 04:41 AM   #206 
        - And the Lord spake, saying,  deaniac21   Dec-22-06 01:26 PM   #230 
  - How odd  Lurking Dem   Dec-21-06 06:44 PM   #124 
  - They way I look at it, you can support the principle in having a right  aint_no_life_nowhere   Dec-21-06 07:13 PM   #141 
  - There's a fundie family in Arkansas  ikojo   Dec-21-06 06:54 PM   #132 
  - For me...  Ms_Dem_Meanor   Dec-21-06 06:54 PM   #133 
  - They probably want donations.  Megahurtz   Dec-21-06 07:27 PM   #143 
  - My ultraliberal BF is eldest of 7 kids  XanaDUer   Dec-21-06 07:33 PM   #145 
  - I have two sons and that seemed plenty too me.  Blue State Native   Dec-21-06 08:07 PM   #149 
  - It is selfish to assume  BushDespiser12   Dec-21-06 08:07 PM   #150 
  - How many are enough? As many as you choose, and you support. NT  mondo joe   Dec-21-06 08:08 PM   #151 
  - that is selfish eom  BushDespiser12   Dec-21-06 08:09 PM   #152 
  - Selfishness is permitted.  mondo joe   Dec-21-06 08:14 PM   #153 
     - not saying you should be penalized...  BushDespiser12   Dec-21-06 08:27 PM   #155 
        - I did limit mine. But others will make other choices, which I consider their choice.  mondo joe   Dec-21-06 08:37 PM   #158 
  - then choice is more important than survival of the earth?  pitohui   Dec-21-06 08:44 PM   #162 
     - I support freedom and liberty. That includes selfish choices.  mondo joe   Dec-21-06 08:49 PM   #165 
     - Um, these people are supporting their kids  The Straight Story   Dec-21-06 09:18 PM   #173 
     - I disagree with a lot of your post, but giving economic incentives for not breeding...  Zhade   Dec-21-06 11:05 PM   #188 
     - Forced sterilization to counter birthrate of polticial opponents?  rinsd   Dec-22-06 03:03 PM   #239 
  - Most people I know from very large families felt they were too big.  SmokingJacket   Dec-21-06 08:41 PM   #161 
  - My dad liked coming from a family of 6  Nikia   Dec-21-06 09:28 PM   #176 
  - Americans are choosing to have fewer children on average  Nikia   Dec-21-06 08:46 PM   #163 
  - yes, smart people, educated people have fewer children  pitohui   Dec-21-06 08:50 PM   #166 
  - just because fundies have lots of kids  melnjones   Dec-21-06 09:51 PM   #181 
  - If parents have the resources to afford all those kids....  kitty1   Dec-21-06 09:45 PM   #179 
  - To each his/her own....if they can handle it then bless them.. (it is about Choice)  bleedingheart   Dec-21-06 08:55 PM   #168 
  - 1/2  Winebrat   Dec-21-06 09:09 PM   #171 
  - I'm infertile so my lack of children helps balance out  azmouse   Dec-21-06 09:29 PM   #177 
  - Since I can't tell a woman how many abortions are too many...  cynatnite   Dec-21-06 10:59 PM   #186 
  - You bet. My feelings exactly.  shrike   Dec-22-06 01:11 PM   #226 
  - Well said!  Dulcinea   Dec-22-06 04:14 PM   #246 
  - Adoption. As a mom who built her family though adoption, I can tell you that 5 is MORE than enough!  Beausoir   Dec-21-06 11:59 PM   #189 
  - I can't believe how young the mom looks.  NightOwwl   Dec-22-06 12:35 AM   #190 
  - Large families sometimes lead to tragedy  Perragrande   Dec-22-06 01:31 AM   #192 
  - I'm the baby of 13  CornField   Dec-22-06 07:34 AM   #208 
  - 13 of us kids 10 of us is still plugging along, youngest is 54  madokie   Dec-22-06 07:50 AM   #210 
  - I'm not the kind of mom who could do that  GloriaSmith   Dec-22-06 12:11 PM   #214 
  - More than 2 is no different than any other kind of over-consumption, i.e. wrong. nt  HardRocker05   Dec-22-06 12:22 PM   #215 
  - Ther # you can afford  ileus   Dec-22-06 12:26 PM   #216 
  - We're well on our way to 10 billion people  lastliberalintexas   Dec-22-06 12:55 PM   #221 
  - In my 20's I would have said 3...  RC Quake   Dec-22-06 12:58 PM   #223 
  - If the Kanes had asked, I would have counseled moderation.  Bridget Burke   Dec-22-06 01:26 PM   #231 
  - Why the fuck does anyone want that many kids?  WritingIsMyReligion   Dec-22-06 04:29 PM   #250 
  - My grandmother chose to have 6 and her brother had 9  Nikia   Dec-23-06 12:08 PM   #270 
  - Every third child should be required to smoke.  rug   Dec-22-06 05:25 PM   #253 
  - We had a family of eight across the street?  devilgrrl   Dec-22-06 05:32 PM   #254 
  - This thread CRIES OUT for this poster:  Caoimhe   Dec-22-06 05:34 PM   #255 
  - There are so many answers to that question.  LWolf   Dec-22-06 05:43 PM   #256 
  - My personal belief  cmf   Dec-22-06 06:15 PM   #257 
  - I'm one of 6 kids, the only girl  dropkickpa   Dec-22-06 11:18 PM   #260 
  - Eight is Enough  Stu DeBeouf   Dec-23-06 12:05 AM   #261 
  - four or three  MATTMAN   Dec-23-06 11:23 AM   #264 
  - If you want a bunch of kids, adopt.  Coventina   Dec-23-06 11:25 AM   #265 
  - I think it's enough when you need TWO vehicles to fit them all.  bling bling   Dec-23-06 11:41 AM   #268 
  - For me? 2 or 3 would be tops.....  sjbech   Dec-23-06 12:36 PM   #273 
  - I'm going to put it in perspective for you people.  Evoman   Dec-23-06 12:44 PM   #274 
  - Aww, don't let science and harsh reality get in the way of our cotten candy views!  mainegreen   Dec-26-06 01:06 PM   #284 
  - Don't have more than you can afford  pstokely   Dec-23-06 08:13 PM   #278 
  - If the kids get fed and aren't abused, I don't care how many people have  JVS   Dec-24-06 01:37 AM   #280 
 

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