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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 08:12 AM
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17. Well, the war has been going on for a long time.
This Wiki article starts back when the Puritans had their own, very real, War on Christmas, that Popish & Pagan holiday. (They lost.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_controversies

But this is one of the earliest "modern" instances:

The December 1957 News and Views published by the Church League of America, an organization co-founded in 1937 by George Washington Robnett attacked the use of Xmas in an article titled "X=The Unknown Quantity." The claims were picked up later by Gerald L.K. Smith who in December 1966 claimed that Xmas was a "blasphemous omission of the name of Christ" and that "'X' is referred to as being symbolical of the unknown quantity." Smith further argued that Jews introduced Santa Claus to suppress the New Testament accounts of Jesus, and that the United Nations at the behest of "world Jewry" had "outlawed the name of Christ." Such claims are made in the face of documented centuries-long history of use of Χ (actually a chi) as an abbreviation for "Christ" (Χριστός ;).

(Santa? Jewish? Who knew?)

Hey, here's a familiar name!

In 1999, VDARE.com founder & editor Peter Brimelow is credited for first coining the term "War on Christmas", or "War Against Christmas", and the analysis of this issue became a prominent piece of conservative cultural criticism in the United States.Brimelow himself has written that he got National Review editor John O'Sullivan to begin a War Against Christmas competition when they both involved with magazine in the mid-1990s; after O'Sullivan was removed as editor, effective January 1998, the competition was dropped VDARE.com hosts an annual "War Against Christmas Competition" which has an extensive compendium of alleged "anti-Christmas" incidents.

Brimelow's VDARE is famous for opposing immigration. Legal immigration, too--especially of the non-white variety. They are one of the more polite hate groups.

O'Reilly is late to the party.





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  - Red Meat  Mikey929   Dec-21-06 06:48 AM   #2 
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  - at this time of year,  Bill McBlueState   Dec-21-06 09:52 AM   #22 
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  - This nonsense really bugs me.  drm604   Dec-21-06 08:03 AM   #15 
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  - you know, the numbers they quote on their *successful* legal memos etc.  Donnachaidh   Dec-21-06 08:11 AM   #16 
  - Well, the war has been going on for a long time.  Bridget Burke   Dec-21-06 08:12 AM   #17 
  - The in-your-face "Merry CHRISTmas" greeting  procopia   Dec-21-06 08:36 AM   #19 
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