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Tue Dec-19-06 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #113 |
| 115. All I can tell is from your posts |
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Edited on Tue Dec-19-06 07:31 PM by nadinbrzezinski
and your posts were extremely dissmisive
Now the media is going batshit crazy with this for the same reason they went crazy with the girl in aruba and the mines in Pennsylvania back in the 1920s. IT SELLS... it is the same logic of people stopping at a car accident to ahem watch...
As to the ER... yep that is good triage.
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| -on the lost climbers and false outrage |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:14 PM |
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Well said and god bless them. |
sallyseven |
Dec-19-06 12:20 PM |
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It seems to me the people complaining... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 12:21 PM |
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Granted, but it is far more than just not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:27 PM |
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Doesn't matter why the did it or what it costs to try to find them. |
acmavm |
Dec-19-06 12:25 PM |
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There is an element of class and race bias that sometimes rears its |
mondo joe |
Dec-19-06 12:27 PM |
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Yep |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:32 PM |
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I didn't originally believe that |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 02:14 PM |
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Of course. How have we all missed the obvious fact that mountains are |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:40 PM |
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Since Oklahoma has no mountains |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 02:52 PM |
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Oklahoma has plenty of mountains. Not 11,000 feet high but falling off |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 03:21 PM |
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Climbed by 'indigent minorities' |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 03:55 PM |
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Well, as you put it so delicately, shit happens. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:11 PM |
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Here |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:51 PM |
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This is TWO years old and from NEW ZEALAND for christs sake. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 05:27 PM |
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rotflmao |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 05:30 PM |
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Hmm since I bought all the gear for mountain rescue |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:58 PM |
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It should be mandatory climbers carry a LOCATER device.. |
Tellurian |
Dec-19-06 12:32 PM |
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It should be, it could be, |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:33 PM |
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No, they aren't "new". They have been available for 20 years. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 01:45 PM |
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Again it should be, it could be |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:49 PM |
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My airplane has an equivalent device, an ELT (emergency locater transmitter) |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:08 PM |
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You want it to be required |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:12 PM |
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Nope, I don't have any desire to make it a law. I don't even like helmet laws |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:36 PM |
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Ok then I do have a different concept of what is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:51 PM |
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The Mt Hood Mountain Locater units are not new. |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 01:48 PM |
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It should hve, it could have |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:50 PM |
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Your comment...it could be, it should be.. I took to |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 01:57 PM |
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Even if the units are not new |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:58 PM |
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I don't have false outrage. I have |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:10 PM |
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Most clmbers actually have quite a bit of |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:12 PM |
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I had a sailor friend who refused to buy an EPIRB |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-19-06 03:53 PM |
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Interesting. I can see that if your sailor friend had no family or anyone |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:05 PM |
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Yup, "DNR" = Do not rescue. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-19-06 04:55 PM |
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The US has become a nation of Randites - Ronald Reagan would be proud. |
devilgrrl |
Dec-19-06 12:34 PM |
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Yep, it is the me generation |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:36 PM |
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The Whole "Rich Climber" Thing |
The Deacon |
Dec-19-06 01:00 PM |
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Just remember |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:41 PM |
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The bad weather was not unexpected, it was very accurately forecasted |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 01:47 PM |
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Yuo mean the worst storm in the Northwest that surprsied |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:48 PM |
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LOL |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 01:57 PM |
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Yes, it was. It's a matter of historical record. Why do so many people deny facts? |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:02 PM |
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Ok assumiing you are corect |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:08 PM |
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The mountain is always "open." What, you think they put up a fence around |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:15 PM |
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Have you ever done any climbing |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:16 PM |
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Warnings? Yes, in some spots. The base of the mountain is |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:22 PM |
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Trail Heads... that works |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:24 PM |
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Every trail head was invented or discovered by someone at some point. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:38 PM |
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And pray tell me why would they use an unknown route? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:52 PM |
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I don't know what they might have done, but obviously there are people |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 03:25 PM |
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According to media reports |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 04:12 PM |
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I have pointed out that shit happens for 50 years. Nobody knows it better than I. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:33 PM |
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And winter climbs have also happened for many years |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:47 PM |
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And winter climbers don't generally die from stupidity. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 06:58 PM |
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Yeah that accidents still happen and that you are quite incapable |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:59 PM |
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That is a total fucking lie and I resent it. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:19 PM |
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Yes, it comes with the code |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:21 PM |
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Dec-19-06 07:36 PM |
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You know what, it is called personal safety |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:42 PM |
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Dec-19-06 07:47 PM |
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See you later child |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:48 PM |
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Dec-19-06 07:48 PM |
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How am I a liar exactly |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:50 PM |
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Not you, nadinbrzezinski. |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 07:54 PM |
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Oh I am sorry, you are right about that one |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:55 PM |
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Why assume he's correct? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 02:48 PM |
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I gave him the slight benefit of the doubt |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:53 PM |
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Do you have a link for that? |
lukasahero |
Dec-19-06 02:46 PM |
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the worst storm was the night of 12/14 - 15. These men |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:07 PM |
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Yes it does, all mountains do have their own weather system |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:09 PM |
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the last ping....I read article that said |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:12 PM |
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it's hard enough to get coverage in the MSM |
maddezmom |
Dec-19-06 01:49 PM |
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You noticed that as well? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:50 PM |
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Yes, we have become accustomed to deaths in the ME |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:14 PM |
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It is not Mt Houd, it would be the war on Christmas |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:18 PM |
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thanks...some people seem to lack historical perspective |
onenote |
Dec-19-06 02:34 PM |
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I'm always pissed off by stupidity... |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 03:05 PM |
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People do stupid things |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 03:33 PM |
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I disagree about James Kim... |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 04:05 PM |
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They lived in Eugene |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:29 PM |
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EXCELLENT post. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 03:54 PM |
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STUPID post |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:00 PM |
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Millions of species no longer exist because of stupidity. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:15 PM |
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You are absolutely wrong. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 04:29 PM |
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I'm not wrong |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:40 PM |
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Sigh.. not getting through to you. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 05:12 PM |
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You can't outsmart tragedy every time |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 05:21 PM |
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I believe he is.. |
sendero |
Dec-19-06 05:56 PM |
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Uh, the evidence says otherwise. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:03 PM |
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No it doesn't |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 06:29 PM |
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They didn't take Locater beacons |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:43 PM |
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Try again |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 07:27 PM |
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How is that a "try again" |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 07:52 PM |
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They did locate the pings |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 08:37 PM |
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Dec-19-06 05:32 PM |
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I refuse to believe that anyone here is a Moran, even if they |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:35 PM |
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There isn't any difference. And in a community of almost 100,000 there has to be |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 06:55 PM |
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This is brilliant. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 05:39 PM |
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No... if you go back and read things again. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:20 PM |
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I can clearly see you know what you're talking about. Ever see Fitton's Cave |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:09 PM |
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No but that is because |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:12 PM |
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Uh, I was replying to lapfog_1. Are you perchance drinking tonight? |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:15 PM |
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No but obviously you are |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:17 PM |
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I have personally rescued 48 people. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:24 PM |
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Really what agency? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:26 PM |
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I made that shit up. Just like a lot of poseurs around here do. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:32 PM |
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Yep Mexican red Cross |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:37 PM |
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As a former rescue worker |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 04:20 PM |
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Having been the rescuer on more than one occasion... |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 04:48 PM |
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Perhaps you have never found |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:50 PM |
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That's an idiotic opinion to make based on what I've typed |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 07:21 PM |
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All I can tell is from your posts |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:25 PM |
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Dismissive? |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 08:08 PM |
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On a whole different matter how they choose the stories |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:16 PM |
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Probably right about the foreigner thing. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 08:44 PM |
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Yep the internets can be an interesting place |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:48 PM |
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A-MEN!!!! |
Mad_Dem_X |
Dec-19-06 03:48 PM |
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I agree. eom |
eyepaddle |
Dec-19-06 04:03 PM |
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I just think it was irresponsible to even attempt to climb the mountain |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 04:17 PM |
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So your tolerance for risk is lower than these guys |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 04:22 PM |
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You were a rescue worker? |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 04:54 PM |
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Are you a mountain climber? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 05:28 PM |
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Climbing Mt. Hood in December is irresponsible |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 06:37 PM |
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In yuor view it is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:01 PM |
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Then I take it you don't leave your house except to go to work or shopping. |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 07:06 PM |
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Tell it to mountain climbers. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 07:42 PM |
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You don't have to be a chicken to recognize a rotten egg. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 06:56 PM |
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Dec-19-06 05:30 PM |
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You know why I don't fill profiles on the web? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:59 PM |
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If you read the OP |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:55 PM |
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It is one of those things you can never understand unless you understand. |
GumboYaYa |
Dec-19-06 05:16 PM |
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A teeny epiphany |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 05:25 PM |
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Phillippe Petit: |
La_Fourmi_Rouge |
Dec-19-06 06:12 PM |
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Exactly right.... |
GumboYaYa |
Dec-20-06 11:22 AM |
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But as an adult you do not climb |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 06:40 PM |
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speak for your self -- your own life. |
xchrom |
Dec-19-06 07:08 PM |
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What a sad life you must lead, fearing the unnecessary risk. nt |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 07:20 PM |
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And -taking- the unnecessary risk is ...what, noble? |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 08:06 PM |
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Karl if we as a species did not take risks |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:10 PM |
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Actually, back in the day, it was ARPA, before DARPA. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 08:27 PM |
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Thanks for teh correction |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:34 PM |
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Taking the unnecessary risk is part of life for most normal people. |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 09:09 PM |
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