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Tue Dec-19-06 12:34 PM
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| 9. The US has become a nation of Randites - Ronald Reagan would be proud. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-19-06 12:35 PM by devilgrrl
His revolution has gone full circle. Hope everyone is satisfied.
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| -on the lost climbers and false outrage |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:14 PM |
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Well said and god bless them. |
sallyseven |
Dec-19-06 12:20 PM |
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It seems to me the people complaining... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 12:21 PM |
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Granted, but it is far more than just not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:27 PM |
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Doesn't matter why the did it or what it costs to try to find them. |
acmavm |
Dec-19-06 12:25 PM |
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There is an element of class and race bias that sometimes rears its |
mondo joe |
Dec-19-06 12:27 PM |
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Yep |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:32 PM |
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I didn't originally believe that |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 02:14 PM |
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Of course. How have we all missed the obvious fact that mountains are |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:40 PM |
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Since Oklahoma has no mountains |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 02:52 PM |
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Oklahoma has plenty of mountains. Not 11,000 feet high but falling off |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 03:21 PM |
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Climbed by 'indigent minorities' |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 03:55 PM |
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Well, as you put it so delicately, shit happens. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:11 PM |
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Here |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:51 PM |
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This is TWO years old and from NEW ZEALAND for christs sake. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 05:27 PM |
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rotflmao |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 05:30 PM |
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Hmm since I bought all the gear for mountain rescue |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:58 PM |
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It should be mandatory climbers carry a LOCATER device.. |
Tellurian |
Dec-19-06 12:32 PM |
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It should be, it could be, |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:33 PM |
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No, they aren't "new". They have been available for 20 years. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 01:45 PM |
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Again it should be, it could be |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:49 PM |
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My airplane has an equivalent device, an ELT (emergency locater transmitter) |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:08 PM |
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You want it to be required |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:12 PM |
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Nope, I don't have any desire to make it a law. I don't even like helmet laws |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:36 PM |
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Ok then I do have a different concept of what is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:51 PM |
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The Mt Hood Mountain Locater units are not new. |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 01:48 PM |
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It should hve, it could have |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:50 PM |
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Your comment...it could be, it should be.. I took to |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 01:57 PM |
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Even if the units are not new |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:58 PM |
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I don't have false outrage. I have |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:10 PM |
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Most clmbers actually have quite a bit of |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:12 PM |
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I had a sailor friend who refused to buy an EPIRB |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-19-06 03:53 PM |
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Interesting. I can see that if your sailor friend had no family or anyone |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:05 PM |
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Yup, "DNR" = Do not rescue. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-19-06 04:55 PM |
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The US has become a nation of Randites - Ronald Reagan would be proud. |
devilgrrl |
Dec-19-06 12:34 PM |
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Yep, it is the me generation |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 12:36 PM |
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The Whole "Rich Climber" Thing |
The Deacon |
Dec-19-06 01:00 PM |
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Just remember |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:41 PM |
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The bad weather was not unexpected, it was very accurately forecasted |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 01:47 PM |
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Yuo mean the worst storm in the Northwest that surprsied |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:48 PM |
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LOL |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 01:57 PM |
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Yes, it was. It's a matter of historical record. Why do so many people deny facts? |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:02 PM |
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Ok assumiing you are corect |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:08 PM |
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The mountain is always "open." What, you think they put up a fence around |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:15 PM |
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Have you ever done any climbing |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:16 PM |
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Warnings? Yes, in some spots. The base of the mountain is |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:22 PM |
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Trail Heads... that works |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:24 PM |
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Every trail head was invented or discovered by someone at some point. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 02:38 PM |
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And pray tell me why would they use an unknown route? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:52 PM |
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I don't know what they might have done, but obviously there are people |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 03:25 PM |
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According to media reports |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 04:12 PM |
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I have pointed out that shit happens for 50 years. Nobody knows it better than I. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:33 PM |
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And winter climbs have also happened for many years |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:47 PM |
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And winter climbers don't generally die from stupidity. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 06:58 PM |
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Yeah that accidents still happen and that you are quite incapable |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:59 PM |
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That is a total fucking lie and I resent it. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:19 PM |
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Yes, it comes with the code |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:21 PM |
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Dec-19-06 07:36 PM |
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You know what, it is called personal safety |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:42 PM |
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Dec-19-06 07:47 PM |
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See you later child |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:48 PM |
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Dec-19-06 07:48 PM |
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How am I a liar exactly |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:50 PM |
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Not you, nadinbrzezinski. |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 07:54 PM |
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Oh I am sorry, you are right about that one |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:55 PM |
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Why assume he's correct? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 02:48 PM |
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I gave him the slight benefit of the doubt |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:53 PM |
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Do you have a link for that? |
lukasahero |
Dec-19-06 02:46 PM |
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the worst storm was the night of 12/14 - 15. These men |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:07 PM |
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Yes it does, all mountains do have their own weather system |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:09 PM |
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the last ping....I read article that said |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:12 PM |
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it's hard enough to get coverage in the MSM |
maddezmom |
Dec-19-06 01:49 PM |
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You noticed that as well? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 01:50 PM |
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Yes, we have become accustomed to deaths in the ME |
crappy diem |
Dec-19-06 02:14 PM |
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It is not Mt Houd, it would be the war on Christmas |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 02:18 PM |
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thanks...some people seem to lack historical perspective |
onenote |
Dec-19-06 02:34 PM |
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I'm always pissed off by stupidity... |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 03:05 PM |
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People do stupid things |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 03:33 PM |
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I disagree about James Kim... |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 04:05 PM |
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They lived in Eugene |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:29 PM |
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EXCELLENT post. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 03:54 PM |
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STUPID post |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:00 PM |
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Millions of species no longer exist because of stupidity. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 04:15 PM |
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You are absolutely wrong. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 04:29 PM |
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I'm not wrong |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 04:40 PM |
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Sigh.. not getting through to you. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 05:12 PM |
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You can't outsmart tragedy every time |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 05:21 PM |
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I believe he is.. |
sendero |
Dec-19-06 05:56 PM |
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Uh, the evidence says otherwise. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:03 PM |
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No it doesn't |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 06:29 PM |
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They didn't take Locater beacons |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:43 PM |
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Try again |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 07:27 PM |
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How is that a "try again" |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 07:52 PM |
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They did locate the pings |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 08:37 PM |
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Dec-19-06 05:32 PM |
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I refuse to believe that anyone here is a Moran, even if they |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:35 PM |
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There isn't any difference. And in a community of almost 100,000 there has to be |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 06:55 PM |
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This is brilliant. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 05:39 PM |
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No... if you go back and read things again. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 06:20 PM |
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I can clearly see you know what you're talking about. Ever see Fitton's Cave |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:09 PM |
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No but that is because |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:12 PM |
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Uh, I was replying to lapfog_1. Are you perchance drinking tonight? |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:15 PM |
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No but obviously you are |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:17 PM |
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I have personally rescued 48 people. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:24 PM |
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Really what agency? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:26 PM |
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I made that shit up. Just like a lot of poseurs around here do. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 07:32 PM |
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Yep Mexican red Cross |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:37 PM |
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As a former rescue worker |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 04:20 PM |
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Having been the rescuer on more than one occasion... |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 04:48 PM |
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Perhaps you have never found |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:50 PM |
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That's an idiotic opinion to make based on what I've typed |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 07:21 PM |
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All I can tell is from your posts |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:25 PM |
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Dismissive? |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 08:08 PM |
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On a whole different matter how they choose the stories |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:16 PM |
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Probably right about the foreigner thing. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 08:44 PM |
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Yep the internets can be an interesting place |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:48 PM |
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A-MEN!!!! |
Mad_Dem_X |
Dec-19-06 03:48 PM |
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I agree. eom |
eyepaddle |
Dec-19-06 04:03 PM |
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I just think it was irresponsible to even attempt to climb the mountain |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 04:17 PM |
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So your tolerance for risk is lower than these guys |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 04:22 PM |
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You were a rescue worker? |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 04:54 PM |
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Are you a mountain climber? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 05:28 PM |
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Climbing Mt. Hood in December is irresponsible |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 06:37 PM |
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In yuor view it is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 07:01 PM |
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Then I take it you don't leave your house except to go to work or shopping. |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 07:06 PM |
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Tell it to mountain climbers. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-19-06 07:42 PM |
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You don't have to be a chicken to recognize a rotten egg. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 06:56 PM |
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Dec-19-06 05:30 PM |
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You know why I don't fill profiles on the web? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:59 PM |
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If you read the OP |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 06:55 PM |
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It is one of those things you can never understand unless you understand. |
GumboYaYa |
Dec-19-06 05:16 PM |
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A teeny epiphany |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-06 05:25 PM |
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Phillippe Petit: |
La_Fourmi_Rouge |
Dec-19-06 06:12 PM |
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Exactly right.... |
GumboYaYa |
Dec-20-06 11:22 AM |
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But as an adult you do not climb |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-06 06:40 PM |
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speak for your self -- your own life. |
xchrom |
Dec-19-06 07:08 PM |
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What a sad life you must lead, fearing the unnecessary risk. nt |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 07:20 PM |
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And -taking- the unnecessary risk is ...what, noble? |
karlrschneider |
Dec-19-06 08:06 PM |
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Karl if we as a species did not take risks |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:10 PM |
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Actually, back in the day, it was ARPA, before DARPA. |
lapfog_1 |
Dec-19-06 08:27 PM |
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Thanks for teh correction |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-19-06 08:34 PM |
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Taking the unnecessary risk is part of life for most normal people. |
piedmont |
Dec-19-06 09:09 PM |
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