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166. He didn't let us down. He was let down.
The ambitions of those whom a Kerry candidacy in 2008 would most threaten are the ones who worked hardest in 2004 to make certain that there would be no President Kerry. Are these really the people you want to see take power in Washington, by default, because you can't forgive someone for not winning the first time?

You do know that Kerry was pretty much fed to the wolves in 2004, don't you? If not, do some googling and you will find many, many examples of this, left-wing hit pieces written while we were all working our asses off for Kerry. We were working and they were attacking with a million paper cuts that virtually shredded his campaign. Sure it wasn't the best campaign. That's no crime. Nobody knows how difficult it is to run for President of the United States, until they have experienced it. (Gore ran for President more times than Kerry, had 8 years as VP and his campaign still made mistakes.) The crime is that our Democratic nominee, running against the worst President ever, was undermined by his own side for nothing more than naked ambition. That is criminal and I'm directing MY anger toward the people who really deserve it.

I'm seeing good people already squeezed out of the 2008 race. They see the handwriting on the wall and they are backing off. This is fundamentally wrong.

I want Kerry to run. Gore would be my second choice. Both are good men and either would make a terrific President. The reason I prefer Kerry is because of his behavior after the election and also because I line up with his political viewpoints a bit more closely than with Gore's. Kerry fought like a tiger (far beyond his role as Senator called for) for us and for Democrats running in the midterms. I'm also happy that he's active on all issues from Iraq to health care to the environment to civil rights and more.

John Kerry has also learned from his experience in 2004. Remember this was Kerry's FIRST run for President. He won the primary, which is a Hell of a lot closer than others have come who are now running again and doing so without the criticism Kerry is getting for not winning the general election. That just doesn't make sense to me. In a horse race, a horse who lost by a nose or in a photo finish is considered a future contender but the also-rans are only considered for small claiming races, put out to pasture or sent to the glue factory.

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  -I have a message for Senator Kerry: dailykoff  Dec-18-06 05:50 PM   #0 
  - Put your flame retardant suit on  rockymountaindem   Dec-18-06 05:51 PM   #1 
  - Buttoned to the chin!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 05:56 PM   #4 
  - he's a good man and he had a chance in '04 and I think we should  WI_DEM   Dec-18-06 05:51 PM   #2 
  - A lot of things have changed since '04  fedupinBushcountry   Dec-18-06 06:00 PM   #12 
  - Support Kerry? compared to who? John Edwards Hillary & Bill, Barack Obama...  Imagevision   Dec-18-06 07:05 PM   #74 
  - I am with you on this!  Mass   Dec-18-06 05:53 PM   #3 
  - who is inside the beltway? DC or midAmeria? I always confuse that.  ray of light   Dec-18-06 05:57 PM   #5 
  - DC lobbyists and such  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:02 PM   #14 
  - Bingo! the Beltway crowd does NOT like Kerry.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 05:58 PM   #7 
     - Where in the world do you get that idea?  CarbonDate   Dec-27-06 01:51 AM   #185 
        - "Sen. Hillary Clinton moves to limit associated Kerry damage,  dailykoff   Dec-27-06 01:51 PM   #186 
  - I'll support him if he does  LittleClarkie   Dec-18-06 05:57 PM   #6 
  - Let's not wait!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:01 PM   #13 
     - Alrighty then  LittleClarkie   Dec-18-06 06:02 PM   #15 
     - I think we need to organize a letter blitz  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:08 PM   #17 
        - I saw it. Maybe a phone campaign might be easier to organize quickly  LittleClarkie   Dec-18-06 06:36 PM   #45 
           - You know that's a great idea!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:56 PM   #65 
              - I guess some have. But I'd be afraid that it was only a bot recieving them  LittleClarkie   Dec-18-06 07:03 PM   #72 
                 - Yeah phoning sounds best.... still waiting for his site to load...  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:09 PM   #75 
                 - OK here's his campaign office number: 202-464-2136  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:15 PM   #76 
                 - And here's his Senate office number: (202) 224-2742  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:20 PM   #78 
     - Oh, I agree.How do we let him know our feelings?n/t  wisteria   Dec-18-06 06:48 PM   #55 
        - How about a phone campaign?  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:58 PM   #68 
        - Hey y'all, I already asked him!  discerning christian   Dec-18-06 11:35 PM   #137 
           - That's perfect!  dailykoff   Dec-19-06 07:11 AM   #150 
              - Thank you,  discerning christian   Dec-19-06 04:54 PM   #161 
                 - I think that sums it up nicely.  dailykoff   Dec-19-06 06:24 PM   #162 
  - w00000000000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!  Democrafty   Dec-18-06 05:59 PM   #8 
  - "John Kerry will save us if we let him."  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:11 PM   #20 
     - So, I assume you were there to tell him:  karynnj   Dec-18-06 06:24 PM   #33 
     - Exactly -- Clinton is the classic example  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:29 PM   #39 
        - My point is that in Kerry you have someone who  karynnj   Dec-18-06 09:29 PM   #121 
     - He was elected  BeFree   Dec-18-06 06:33 PM   #42 
     - He was elected, the election was stolen  jgraz   Dec-18-06 07:00 PM   #70 
        - No  BeFree   Dec-18-06 08:17 PM   #101 
        - "He stands to fight another day"  jgraz   Dec-18-06 08:29 PM   #102 
           - That's low  BeFree   Dec-18-06 08:41 PM   #103 
           - I'm not the one bringing in the war metaphors to support their candidate  jgraz   Dec-18-06 08:48 PM   #105 
              - Awww  BeFree   Dec-18-06 08:59 PM   #106 
                 - That's what the ignore button is for  jgraz   Dec-18-06 09:03 PM   #107 
                 - AMEN! n/t  _dynamicdems   Dec-21-06 07:21 AM   #165 
           - That's disgusting and totally twisted. n/t  _dynamicdems   Dec-21-06 07:12 AM   #163 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-06 11:45 PM   #138 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-19-06 03:21 AM   #148 
     - He let us down before, the stakes are higher now  Patchuli   Dec-18-06 11:52 PM   #140 
        - He didn't let us down. He was let down.  _dynamicdems   Dec-21-06 07:53 AM   #166 
  - Running  mbergen   Dec-18-06 05:59 PM   #9 
  - Agreed 100%  Firespirit   Dec-18-06 05:59 PM   #10 
  - I second that request n/t  LevensonK   Dec-18-06 06:00 PM   #11 
  - Why wouldn't Gore, Edwards, Clark, Obama or Kucinich do just as well as Kerry in these areas?  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:06 PM   #16 
  - I think they're all great, BUT:  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:14 PM   #22 
  - Hmmm...  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:22 PM   #32 
  - Obama voted for the tort reform bill and against the bankruptcy bill  beachmom   Dec-18-06 07:17 PM   #77 
  - Thanks beachmom  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:53 PM   #95 
  - GORE's Judgement regarding Iraq isn't good? Where has Gore been on the war from day one?  impeachdubya   Dec-18-06 11:45 PM   #139 
  - Well, everyone chooses their niches, and Kerry's has always been about exposing  blm   Dec-18-06 06:16 PM   #24 
     - Exactly!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:27 PM   #36 
  - I'm with you, too - run, John, run! nt  babylonsister   Dec-18-06 06:09 PM   #18 
  - Time for someone new  quinnox   Dec-18-06 06:10 PM   #19 
  - Fine, who????  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:17 PM   #25 
  - Let's see what the field is  quinnox   Dec-18-06 06:19 PM   #27 
  - Well, there's only so many senators and governors.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:21 PM   #29 
  - you make a great case against front-loading the primaries  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:25 PM   #35 
  - Yes, I suppose that might help.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:28 PM   #38 
     - My belief is that we need to slice back  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:31 PM   #41 
        - I think what he needs is a fixer.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:35 PM   #44 
        - Please tell me you don't mean *exactly* like Carville  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:37 PM   # 
           - LOL, I mean NOTHING like Carville.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:39 PM   #49 
        - You've seen Edwards do it?  karynnj   Dec-21-06 09:12 AM   #170 
  - that's a very good point  ginnyinWI   Dec-18-06 06:49 PM   #56 
  - I wonder how many people now wish they'd voted for him in 2004  ginnyinWI   Dec-18-06 06:51 PM   #59 
  - He actually makes less verbal faux pas than most.  _dynamicdems   Dec-21-06 08:17 AM   #168 
     - Great points  karynnj   Dec-21-06 09:17 AM   #172 
  - I'm with you on this one!  Island Blue   Dec-18-06 06:11 PM   #21 
  - Thanks Blue!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:22 PM   #31 
  - Great post! Thanks! n/t  ProSense   Dec-18-06 06:15 PM   #23 
  - Thanks ProSense!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:30 PM   #40 
  - K-and-friggin-R!  rox63   Dec-18-06 06:18 PM   #26 
  - Thanks rox!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:24 PM   #34 
  - If Kerry wants to be president, he should run.  Martin Eden   Dec-18-06 06:19 PM   #28 
  - Run, John, Run!  globalvillage   Dec-18-06 06:21 PM   #30 
  - Run, John, Run!  DanaM   Dec-18-06 06:27 PM   #37 
  - I agree, run John run, run as far as possible away from microphones and video cameras!  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 06:33 PM   #43 
  - I was wondering when you guys were going to show up.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:37 PM   #46 
  - Just stay away from Presidential politics  jgraz   Dec-18-06 06:38 PM   #47 
  - Great - The first Kerry basher.  Mass   Dec-18-06 06:43 PM   #51 
  - I actually want to vote for someone I like...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 06:52 PM   #61 
     - So dont support him. Other will support him, so he should try to run.  Mass   Dec-18-06 07:00 PM   #69 
     - How is it possible for someone to know what it's like to be poor...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 07:22 PM   #79 
     - So do I  sandnsea   Dec-18-06 07:32 PM   #84 
     - Yeah, we all know that sending people to die for politics is such a lame excuse...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 07:37 PM   #87 
     - Like Hillary and Edwards?  sandnsea   Dec-18-06 08:47 PM   #104 
        - Obama and maybe Bill Richardson...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 09:23 PM   #118 
        - So Wes Clark who "honorably" defended John Kerry against Swiftboaters  FrenchieCat   Dec-19-06 02:31 AM   #147 
     - Yes, Clark made a lot of statements about WMD.......that is true!  FrenchieCat   Dec-19-06 02:13 AM   #146 
     - Those are pretty good..  sendero   Dec-21-06 07:19 AM   #164 
     - Does this look like a man with awkward body language  Island Blue   Dec-18-06 09:21 PM   #115 
     - Well, I watched the debates and his convention speech...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 09:25 PM   #119 
     - And how would you have a President of the United States act?  _dynamicdems   Dec-21-06 08:24 AM   #169 
        - No, there's a difference between uptight and formal. Bill Clinton...  originalpckelly   Dec-27-06 01:53 PM   #187 
     - No, but in that 4th picture his hand is freakishly large  jgraz   Dec-18-06 09:32 PM   #123 
     - Or attracted a few.  Vektor   Dec-19-06 03:55 PM   #159 
     - You can't be serious  karynnj   Dec-21-06 09:27 AM   #173 
     - GO BLUE !!!  discerning christian   Dec-19-06 12:04 AM   #143 
     - I hate to point this out but your post makes it obvious you know very little about John Kerry .  saracat   Dec-19-06 11:44 AM   #156 
  - Old right wing talking points? Please, is that all you have? n/t  wisteria   Dec-18-06 06:51 PM   #58 
     - Is that accusation all YOU have?  talk hard   Dec-19-06 03:44 AM   #149 
  - YES!!!  StoryTeller   Dec-18-06 06:39 PM   #48 
  - You nailed it there, StoryTeller!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:43 PM   #50 
  - I have to agree with you  Sydnie   Dec-18-06 06:46 PM   #52 
  - Wow, I am with you on this. Run Senator Kerry! Run for America. n/t  wisteria   Dec-18-06 06:46 PM   #53 
  - Thanks wisteria!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:51 PM   #57 
     - me too. n/t  wisteria   Dec-18-06 06:51 PM   #60 
  - I Like Kerry, But How Can He Ever Recover? Most People Still Believe the Swift Boat Liars  AndyTiedye   Dec-18-06 06:48 PM   #54 
  - Frankly, I don't think ANYBODY believed those lying scumbags.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 06:54 PM   #63 
  - I don't like him and it has nothing to do with that...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 06:56 PM   #64 
  - No, they don't. Only the hardest of the RW kool aid drinkers.  wisteria   Dec-18-06 06:58 PM   #67 
  - Amen, amen amen!!  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-18-06 06:53 PM   #62 
  - LOL.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:51 PM   #94 
  - I'll support any Dem in the GE, but I'll happily cast my vote for JK, again,  Old and In the Way   Dec-18-06 06:57 PM   #66 
  - Really, does Kerry running hurt the Dems in any way???  jgraz   Dec-18-06 07:02 PM   #71 
  - K&R!  politicasista   Dec-18-06 07:05 PM   #73 
  - Thanks politicasista!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:41 PM   #91 
  - Great post. I agree wholeheartedly!!  beachmom   Dec-18-06 07:24 PM   #80 
  - I feel the exact same way  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:47 PM   #93 
  - I would vote for Senator Kerry again.  Olney Blue   Dec-18-06 07:25 PM   #81 
  - NO, DON'T RUN!  quantessd   Dec-18-06 07:30 PM   #82 
  - My Senator should NOT run  bicentennial_baby   Dec-18-06 07:31 PM   #83 
  - You can always vote for the other party. (n/t)  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:37 PM   #86 
     - No we can't, because we are Democrats...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 07:39 PM   #89 
     - You can in the general.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:44 PM   #92 
        - I take it you didn't get the metaphor...  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 07:57 PM   #98 
     - Excuse me?  bicentennial_baby   Dec-18-06 08:10 PM   #100 
        - There is no other candidate...only Zoool -er- Kerry  jgraz   Dec-18-06 09:15 PM   #112 
           - I don't think we'll need to worry about it.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 09:22 PM   #116 
           - Don't go knocking on Kerry.  originalpckelly   Dec-18-06 09:25 PM   #120 
           - LMFAO  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-19-06 12:01 AM   #142 
              - I try.  originalpckelly   Dec-27-06 01:54 PM   #188 
           - In the unlikely event that happens  jgraz   Dec-18-06 09:29 PM   #122 
              - It can get pretty ugly.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 10:11 PM   #126 
           - If that happens we will likely all vote for the Democrat  karynnj   Dec-18-06 09:40 PM   #124 
  - Let's call and say "Senator, we got your back! " Here are his DC numbers:  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:35 PM   #85 
  - Thank you for the numbers! I am going to let him know I will support him again. n/t  wisteria   Dec-18-06 07:40 PM   #90 
     - Me too.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 07:54 PM   #96 
     - Well I just called both numbers  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 09:13 PM   #110 
  - cool.  Buzz Clik   Dec-18-06 07:38 PM   #88 
  - Kerry is the ONLY candidate I like other than Gore and Kucinich  nam78_two   Dec-18-06 07:56 PM   #97 
  - Great post dailykoff, I have to wholeheartedly agree . . .but I have a Q for U  Klimmer   Dec-18-06 08:04 PM   #99 
  - Hi Klimmer! Here's a link  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 09:04 PM   #108 
     - Thanks. I do remember reading this but forgot about it. Thanks again. n/t  Klimmer   Dec-18-06 10:21 PM   #128 
  - I Wish I Wish I Wish He Was Sworn In Jan 2005. But His Time Is Done For This. It Ain't Gonna Happen  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-18-06 09:05 PM   #109 
  - They don't call him Comeback Kerry for nothing.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 09:17 PM   #113 
  - Please Point Out To Me Where I Said Never.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-18-06 09:22 PM   #117 
     - You just did.  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 10:06 PM   #125 
        - Obviously My Statement Applied To Previous Posts, Since Ones To Come Afterwards Would Be Irrelevant  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-18-06 10:38 PM   #130 
           - Well if you want to get technical,  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 10:55 PM   #131 
              - Perfect  oncall   Dec-26-06 10:15 PM   #181 
  - His chances get worse when you think they're nil. Why not Kerry? He IS  babylonsister   Dec-19-06 12:18 AM   #144 
  - A late but strong AGREE!!!  Skip Intro   Dec-18-06 09:14 PM   #111 
  - Not late!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 09:19 PM   #114 
  - I agree with every word.  MH1   Dec-18-06 10:18 PM   #127 
  - Roger that!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 10:59 PM   #133 
  - dailykoff... i am with you. RUN kerry RUN.... i agree with your reasons  seabeyond   Dec-18-06 10:26 PM   #129 
  - Six more great reasons!  dailykoff   Dec-18-06 10:58 PM   #132 
  - I absolutely agree 100 percent. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Dec-18-06 11:04 PM   #134 
  - I concur...  YvonneCa   Dec-18-06 11:21 PM   #135 
  - by all means run ... but  AtomicKitten   Dec-18-06 11:25 PM   #136 
  - LOL  48percenter   Dec-27-06 01:09 AM   #184 
  - Well, I like Kerry to some degree, but...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-19-06 12:00 AM   #141 
  - John Kerry should run if he wants to.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-19-06 01:47 AM   #145 
  - No don't run  petron   Dec-19-06 07:13 AM   #151 
  - It's been rec'd because a lot of folks have watched his actions  beachmom   Dec-19-06 07:45 AM   #152 
  - Great idea...  Vektor   Dec-19-06 09:54 AM   #153 
  - Kerry's seems to have a number of critics on here, but I'll bet you  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-19-06 10:16 AM   #154 
  - You are absolutely correct. A small group of critics indeed.  wisteria   Dec-19-06 11:28 AM   #155 
     - Yes, he shown that he's an outstanding strategist, as well as a  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-19-06 04:35 PM   #160 
        - Exactly what strategy was he using during the Swiftboat vet attacks?  Beelzebud   Dec-21-06 09:16 AM   #171 
           - It seemed pretty effective to me  dailykoff   Dec-21-06 11:45 AM   #176 
              - So effective he's still Senator Kerry....  Beelzebud   Dec-21-06 05:51 PM   #177 
                 - Yes, according to Kenneth Blackwell  dailykoff   Dec-21-06 09:59 PM   #178 
  - You are a brave soul -- I'm almost afraid to read the thread  SharonRB   Dec-19-06 12:22 PM   #157 
  - No way!  jaksavage   Dec-19-06 02:49 PM   #158 
  - Who would have expected the dirty tricks to come from his own side?  _dynamicdems   Dec-21-06 08:05 AM   #167 
  - Wow, you are off base- really. Sen. Kerry raised more money and spent  wisteria   Dec-21-06 10:14 AM   #174 
  - KIck!  wisteria   Dec-21-06 10:24 AM   #175 
  - Wow! John Kerry For President?  mloutre   Dec-26-06 04:10 PM   #179 
  - Great picture of an Otter. Anybody you know?  oncall   Dec-26-06 10:23 PM   #182 
     - Ah, so that's what it is.  dailykoff   Dec-27-06 12:57 AM   #183 
  - I think he should run too, I don't care who else is running or not! He will have my vote! n/t  wisteria   Dec-26-06 04:41 PM   #180 

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