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Sun Dec-17-06 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #64 |
| 69. Human life is more important to humans than mouse life. |
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Shocking, I know.
I won't apologize for taking necessary medication that's derived from mouse antibodies. In fact, I find it disgusting that you want me to suffer in favor of lab mice.
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| -**Canadian scientists CURE diabetes in mice** |
Bluebear |
Dec-17-06 12:45 AM |
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Yay! |
otherlander |
Dec-17-06 12:46 AM |
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This is AWESOME! Rec. #1. |
Maddy McCall |
Dec-17-06 12:47 AM |
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Yep. It's even greater news for mice! |
TahitiNut |
Dec-17-06 07:51 PM |
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Lets all hope for the Best...quickly I might add....I have type 2 and hope the cure comes before my |
opihimoimoi |
Dec-17-06 12:49 AM |
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Here's yesterday's LBN thread on this potentially awesome breakthrough. |
Wonk |
Dec-17-06 01:07 AM |
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Yay Team Science!!! |
Az |
Dec-17-06 01:09 AM |
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Science = 1, Bible = 0 ... Science wins! |
file83 |
Dec-17-06 12:30 PM |
#26 |
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The bible had the cure in it a long time ago |
The Straight Story |
Dec-17-06 12:51 PM |
#28 |
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Maybe it's in |
svpadgham |
Dec-17-06 02:30 PM |
#32 |
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That's hardly fair. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-18-06 06:07 AM |
#90 |
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Tsk, tsk, you took my joke seriously. |
file83 |
Dec-18-06 08:54 PM |
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Please, please, please work and soon. |
aquart |
Dec-17-06 01:11 AM |
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You mean praying to Jesus didn't do it? |
krispos42 |
Dec-17-06 02:06 AM |
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Somehow I 'fear' that this will work better on mice than men....... |
Mind_your_head |
Dec-17-06 02:14 AM |
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Big Pharm |
svpadgham |
Dec-17-06 02:32 PM |
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I agree |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-17-06 03:48 PM |
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Nonsense |
Patiod |
Dec-17-06 05:03 PM |
#48 |
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Lee Iacocca disagrees with you.. |
sendero |
Dec-17-06 06:42 PM |
#68 |
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I still think that view is simplistic |
Patiod |
Dec-17-06 08:13 PM |
#72 |
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You cannot expect me .. |
sendero |
Dec-17-06 08:34 PM |
#74 |
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Type I sucks. |
Patiod |
Dec-17-06 09:13 PM |
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Your post is odd, since you don't seem to have been someone privy to the study. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Dec-17-06 06:18 PM |
#63 |
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I would say the cost would be |
samplegirl |
Dec-17-06 02:34 AM |
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Terrific...if you're a mouse |
Raine |
Dec-17-06 02:40 AM |
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Well, if there IS a neurophysiological connection, this is certainly a hopeful bit of news. |
NV1962 |
Dec-17-06 03:29 AM |
#11 |
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Canada 2, diabetes 0 |
KamaAina |
Dec-18-06 12:29 PM |
#128 |
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It's certainly good to have another avenue of research... |
Zookeeper |
Dec-17-06 04:42 AM |
#12 |
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Frederick Banting and his dogs would be proud nt |
MookieWilson |
Dec-17-06 06:53 AM |
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Where are the "ban animal testing" folks? |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 07:32 AM |
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I dunno |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 08:46 AM |
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Better to be spade than clubbed |
Stuckinthebush |
Dec-17-06 09:01 AM |
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. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 09:12 AM |
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A heartless comment |
Jackpine Radical |
Dec-17-06 04:42 PM |
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I am well suited for it |
Stuckinthebush |
Dec-18-06 09:00 AM |
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I try to avoid engaging them in discussion. |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 10:49 AM |
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I love it when people put animals ahead of people |
rockymountaindem |
Dec-17-06 12:48 PM |
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Apparently. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 05:29 PM |
#54 |
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Still not sure |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 01:27 PM |
#30 |
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Well, in that case... |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 02:32 PM |
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Not a chance |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 03:20 PM |
#36 |
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Well, good. |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 03:29 PM |
#39 |
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Don't have kids |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 04:53 PM |
#43 |
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You're right... you did lose. |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 04:55 PM |
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Ouch. Way to rub it in |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 05:13 PM |
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Just emphasizing how utterly wrong you are. (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 05:18 PM |
#51 |
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I've already been proven wrong before the issue came up |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 05:27 PM |
#53 |
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Prove mice can even believe anything. (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 05:35 PM |
#58 |
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Prove they can't |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 06:07 PM |
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Um... if you reject definitions then language is meaningless. (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 06:26 PM |
#65 |
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Kind of tough to prove |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 09:30 PM |
#76 |
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Hence the process of coming to terms. |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 09:34 PM |
#77 |
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That's pretty much what everyone has ever fought for |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 09:48 PM |
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Strawmen, what a surprise. (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 11:02 PM |
#83 |
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Or accurate |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 07:00 AM |
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What the fuck is "mouse progress?" |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 05:00 PM |
#46 |
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Exactly |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 05:18 PM |
#52 |
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See, this is why I tend to avoid discussions with you people. |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 05:32 PM |
#55 |
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But this is why I love discussions with you people |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 06:18 PM |
#64 |
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Human life is more important to humans than mouse life. |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 07:01 PM |
#69 |
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Why not lab humans? |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 09:41 PM |
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More strawmen. |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 11:03 PM |
#84 |
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All I said was go get experimented on |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 07:05 AM |
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Mice are used for numerous reasons. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-18-06 08:15 AM |
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We do this for numerous reasons too |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 08:47 AM |
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Helluva strawman. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-18-06 08:53 AM |
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He doesn't care. |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 10:36 AM |
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Didn't say medication is bad |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 11:02 AM |
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It's clear from your statements |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 11:05 AM |
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Stop saying I'm against medication |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 11:16 AM |
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Do you support the production of Remicade? |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 11:23 AM |
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I'm not going to stop the production |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 11:35 AM |
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Do you think it's immoral? |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 11:39 AM |
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You live in the reality that is 2006 |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 11:54 AM |
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He's just pointing out where your line is drawn. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-18-06 12:00 PM |
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Then you're reading a different argument |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 12:13 PM |
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The problem is in your justification for that position. |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 12:17 PM |
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My justification |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 12:45 PM |
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Why should human beings be willing to be tested? |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 01:06 PM |
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What are the restrictions? |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 01:24 PM |
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Does existence have a capacity to judge "importance?" |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 01:29 PM |
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I bring bathing up because it's just as unnatural. |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 12:08 PM |
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That's evolution |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 12:28 PM |
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So then we're not killing the whole of life on the planet |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 10:48 AM |
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I bet you don't have anyone in your family that has a medical condition. |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 04:54 PM |
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Like I said, we can do all the testing we want |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 05:10 PM |
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You need a reality check with the food chain |
mconvente |
Dec-17-06 06:32 PM |
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Apparently, the NOD mouse |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 06:36 PM |
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Like I said, what we're doing is completely rational |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-17-06 09:35 PM |
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It's hardly chance that lions eat gazelles. (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 11:05 PM |
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How is there any difference? |
Conan_The_Barbarian |
Dec-17-06 11:29 PM |
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It's completely rational |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 07:19 AM |
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Depends on what type of definition of "chance" - hear me out |
mconvente |
Dec-18-06 06:03 PM |
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It's really too bad that we can't trade immune systems. |
kiahzero |
Dec-17-06 11:21 PM |
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Test on humans for human progress |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 07:08 AM |
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That would end effective medical research. |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 10:33 AM |
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But why would it end research? |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 10:57 AM |
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Ah, I see. |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 11:03 AM |
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Damn, I'm pretty sure we have a pill for rage |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 11:28 AM |
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All I'm saying is that your arguments suck. |
kiahzero |
Dec-18-06 11:36 AM |
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That's true |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 12:04 PM |
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You didn't address the issue |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-18-06 12:07 PM |
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No, I won't |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 12:50 PM |
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I think you mean you "can't". |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-18-06 12:57 PM |
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Can't works |
NoMoreMyths |
Dec-18-06 01:43 PM |
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I'm right here, genius |
DrunkenMaster |
Dec-18-06 10:38 AM |
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My outlook on this as a Type 1 for 45 years |
IDemo |
Dec-17-06 09:31 AM |
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If this actually turns out to be a cure |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 09:38 AM |
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That sounds great |
IDemo |
Dec-17-06 10:04 AM |
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Don't sell hope short. |
Bluebear |
Dec-17-06 10:53 AM |
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I have hope, but tempered with experience |
IDemo |
Dec-17-06 11:14 AM |
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Yes. People tell me constantly about new "cures" |
Zookeeper |
Dec-17-06 07:47 PM |
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I will so be there.... |
LynzM |
Dec-17-06 01:18 PM |
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I'm right in the middle with you. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 03:26 PM |
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Again with the tinfoil hats, people |
Patiod |
Dec-17-06 05:32 PM |
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More here, from The Toronto Star.... |
SidDithers |
Dec-17-06 11:08 AM |
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"the team's findings have no relevance to people who already have Type 1 diabetes." |
IDemo |
Dec-17-06 02:30 PM |
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Yup, guess so. |
LynzM |
Dec-17-06 03:45 PM |
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Ahh but it does. |
Lurking Dem |
Dec-17-06 05:32 PM |
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This is also up on the JDRF website |
berni_mccoy |
Dec-17-06 11:13 AM |
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OMG - We have to suppress this |
TheFarseer |
Dec-17-06 01:33 PM |
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Sell more viagra. n/t |
yibbehobba |
Dec-17-06 05:01 PM |
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OMG, take off the hat! |
Patiod |
Dec-17-06 05:36 PM |
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Very Cool |
proud patriot |
Dec-17-06 03:22 PM |
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Very cool indeed! |
TommyO |
Dec-18-06 06:03 AM |
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Time for the U.S. pharmaceutical companies to step in and try to somehow... |
Minnesota_Lib |
Dec-17-06 05:36 PM |
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No one who works there has family with diabetes? |
Patiod |
Dec-17-06 08:32 PM |
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I may never have to hear Wilford Brimley say "diabeetis" again! |
name not needed |
Dec-17-06 05:42 PM |
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Thanks for the infor and for the discussion n/t |
truedelphi |
Dec-17-06 10:02 PM |
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Yet another omen that the Leafs will win the cup this year. |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-17-06 10:51 PM |
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I will volunteer for the trials. God bless smart people and god bless |
roguevalley |
Dec-17-06 11:14 PM |
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Just to clarify |
IDemo |
Dec-18-06 08:55 AM |
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Not to differ with you, but the article said clearly this was a REVERSAL |
Bluebear |
Dec-18-06 09:02 AM |
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From the Toronto Star article: |
IDemo |
Dec-18-06 09:17 AM |
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It should also be noted that complete beta cell destruction does take time |
IDemo |
Dec-18-06 09:44 AM |
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Animal Testing is NOT Accurate! |
DrunkenMaster |
Dec-18-06 10:43 AM |
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Tell it to the scientists. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 12:06 PM |
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is false analaogy all you are capable of? |
DrunkenMaster |
Dec-18-06 01:02 PM |
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Why is it a false analogy? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 01:05 PM |
#134 |
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As for your arguments themselves... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 01:34 PM |
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Wow! |
negativenihil |
Dec-18-06 12:14 PM |
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Another promising story from last April |
IDemo |
Dec-18-06 01:05 PM |
#133 |
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If I May Humbly Suggest |
DrunkenMaster |
Dec-18-06 01:32 PM |
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I'm not seeing how your arguments fit. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 01:36 PM |
#141 |
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self-delete, repeat |
DrunkenMaster |
Dec-18-06 01:32 PM |
#139 |
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