Reply #16: well the very nature of progressive liberalism is that it's

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based on the best information possible at that given time tempered with getting the best results for the common good -- everyones common good.

top, bottom, and sideways.

it is -- or it should be rational.

that's not shoving down any one's throat.

the conflict we find our selves in today -- when you take corporatism out of the mix is an irrational fear of modernity mixed with a blame the victim mentality.

in fact -- it's brutal.

so as you can see -- there's not much i agree with in your premise.