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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:15 AM
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34. I Don't Agree
...if people knew what is going on in those prisons, and if they have a lick of sense, they would see that making a worse criminal out of someone is not going to do a damn thing for society. Humane treatment is important not only because it is a mark of an evolving civilization, but it is prudent because many of these prisoners WILL leave that facility. Which would you rather have in your community ~ a bitter, angry, hardened criminal or someone who is truly sorry for what they have done and ready to change? I do not think a raped, beaten, demeaned person can come out of a place like that and become a good citizen. Most of the time they will have the attitude, "What was done to me in your name and with your permission, I am going to do to you ..."

We always assume that criminals will remain in prison forever. Not true. Locking someone away for years is already a terrible punishment. To lock them into a torture chamber only creates domestic terrorists.

But then, perhaps you are right. I don't have much faith that Americans get it as we can see from the past 20 years or so. They are in denial about what has happened in the past, pretending to be too busy watching Fox news rather than hearing the truth from people who have lived the results of American complacency about their leaders. Because of our harsh treatment of people around the world, many if not most Americans refuse ask why we have so many enemies we have today, cultivated by the leaders in power right now. They refuse to look at the neo-con terrorists we have right here in this country, many of them groomed in facilities like the one in CO. They won't look at the wars we have participated in and will for years to come in other countries because of the cruel hubris we have imposed. They refuse to understand why crimes rates rise in their own communities when harsh punishment is imposed, such as when we impose the death penalty and the rise in murders that soon follows. Our past cruelty is like dropping a rock into the water and the ripples that winnow out from the center. Have we learned a damn thing from our past deeds? No! It is still a "hang 'em high" attitude for our own people as well as for people abroad.

We are paying the price of that cruelty now and it is escalating. There are few who will have the sense to stand up and say we need to start here at home with humane treatment of our own people, and Americans seem oblivious refusing to finally accept a universal truth; humane treatment breeds humane actions and violence breeds violence. This is why people are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan right now.

My 2 cents

Cat In Seattle
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