| 272. No, because a free country just can't have that sort of thing |
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It sounds nice, but it creates a situation where you have to serve the government. The idea of the US is that the government leaves you alone except where absolutely necessary.
Too much regimentation for that. Also too tempting to enter into wars - we ought to make it so that entry into wars is something we are only motivated to do when necessary.
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| -Mandatory National Service |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 04:35 PM |
#0 |
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Hell, No. n/t |
anitar1 |
Dec-07-06 04:39 PM |
#1 |
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Yeesh - not this again |
Book Lover |
Dec-07-06 04:41 PM |
#2 |
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I'm sorry to bring "this" up |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 04:49 PM |
#7 |
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My apologies for the snarky remark |
Book Lover |
Dec-07-06 05:25 PM |
#17 |
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I accept your apology |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:44 PM |
#25 |
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You're not answering the questions! |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 03:40 PM |
#126 |
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I'll go down the Heilllein route |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:39 PM |
#151 |
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good suggestion. jail time is unnecessary. nt. |
k_jerome |
Dec-10-06 02:21 AM |
#166 |
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Wow, taking away the right to vote! How progressive! |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 12:00 PM |
#171 |
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A felony conviction in many states does that anyway |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 12:54 PM |
#176 |
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I think that no one, at any age, should be forced to do anything. |
Mend |
Dec-07-06 04:43 PM |
#3 |
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Forced labor? |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:01 PM |
#12 |
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So, based on your view of what's right and wrong |
Mythsaje |
Dec-07-06 05:35 PM |
#21 |
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If "forcing" people in the richest |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:50 PM |
#26 |
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You DO realize that no one ever intended |
Mythsaje |
Dec-07-06 06:39 PM |
#35 |
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Their not paying |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 02:22 PM |
#38 |
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Same old song and dance... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 02:40 PM |
#39 |
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Thats not an answer to my question |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 02:50 PM |
#40 |
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Businesses aren't people, despite the fact that they're treated like it. |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 03:09 PM |
#46 |
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You've contradicted yourself |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 03:21 PM |
#49 |
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They shouldn't doesn't mean the same as we should stop them from it... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 03:36 PM |
#56 |
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Seeing beyond black and white is great |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:02 PM |
#60 |
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Because it would work just as well to make it voluntary |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 04:18 PM |
#63 |
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It was not my intention to ignore it |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:29 PM |
#66 |
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I didn't direct it specifically at you... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 04:48 PM |
#72 |
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Who decides whats necessary? |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:58 PM |
#75 |
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Why not? |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 05:12 PM |
#79 |
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Compulsory education and taxation |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 05:25 PM |
#81 |
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I think it edges a little closer to authoritarianism than I find palatable... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 05:30 PM |
#83 |
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Why is this where you draw the fine line? |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:00 PM |
#95 |
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You gotta draw a line somewhere... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 02:46 PM |
#116 |
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Here's the answer to your question |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 03:11 PM |
#47 |
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Well thats a better argument than the other poster |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 03:25 PM |
#51 |
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No, but universal healthcare and higher education... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 03:33 PM |
#55 |
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Thats because they don't exist |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:13 PM |
#62 |
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You missed my point entirely |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 04:21 PM |
#64 |
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No I was comparing your specific earlier point |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:34 PM |
#68 |
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I'm saying that we should not enact a requirement for citizenship reform |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 04:56 PM |
#74 |
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But why is that different than |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:59 PM |
#76 |
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Because it gives the government too much power over our lives |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 05:10 PM |
#78 |
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Then you are getting into the libertarian argument |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 05:29 PM |
#82 |
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Certain elements of their arguments (mostly the non-economic ones) |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 05:32 PM |
#84 |
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Sure, okay it's a libertarian argument |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 05:32 PM |
#85 |
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Well on this issue |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:04 PM |
#96 |
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There has to be a point where a person says |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 02:48 PM |
#117 |
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We'll have to agree to disagree then |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-06 03:44 PM |
#129 |
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In education there is flexibility |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 03:54 PM |
#130 |
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I have no problem with asking, your plan proposes forcing... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-06 04:21 PM |
#135 |
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But its the governments place to tax them? |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 04:27 PM |
#136 |
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Yes because the government NEEDS the money so that we don't fall into anarchy |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-06 04:36 PM |
#138 |
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That seems to be the case |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 04:43 PM |
#139 |
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Services to the less fortunate are necessary for the nation's survival... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-06 05:06 PM |
#143 |
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Right... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-10-06 01:47 AM |
#161 |
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If you start sending everyone to college and the hospital on the government's bill |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 03:42 PM |
#127 |
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Ask the students at UGA if things were better or worse before the HOPE scholarship |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-06 04:28 PM |
#137 |
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What is the HOPE scholarship? |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 11:58 AM |
#170 |
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I'm not in favor of mandatory service, I'm in favor of everyone being able to go to college... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-11-06 01:04 AM |
#200 |
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Nor do I. |
TahitiNut |
Dec-07-06 05:39 PM |
#22 |
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DING DING DING! Mend, you're our grand prize winner! |
rocknation |
Dec-07-06 05:58 PM |
#29 |
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Actually your boys |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 06:04 PM |
#30 |
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they are both too old to conscript....let the people under the |
Mend |
Dec-07-06 06:07 PM |
#31 |
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Ok I'm all for |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 06:15 PM |
#33 |
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I did serve starting at 18 as well |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 01:22 PM |
#107 |
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Replace the indentured servitude with full-time salaries and benefits |
rocknation |
Dec-07-06 06:13 PM |
#32 |
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Nope to the rich it will have to be mandatory |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 06:30 PM |
#34 |
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Correct, see above |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 01:23 PM |
#108 |
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And, see, this is where I think the moral purpose falls flat... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 04:01 PM |
#132 |
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No exceptions |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:38 PM |
#150 |
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self-delete |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 08:45 PM |
#157 |
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If you're offering free college education and lifetime health care |
Mythsaje |
Dec-07-06 04:46 PM |
#4 |
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To the affluent |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:07 PM |
#14 |
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No, I don't think we have MILLIONS of jobs just laying around... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-07-06 05:31 PM |
#18 |
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I addressed most of these concerns in another |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:54 PM |
#28 |
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The same was claimed in the Great Depression. They were wrong. |
TahitiNut |
Dec-07-06 06:47 PM |
#36 |
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I have always thought some sort of national service.......... |
Bonhomme Richard |
Dec-07-06 04:46 PM |
#5 |
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I wouldn't be able to post on DU |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 04:52 PM |
#9 |
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I'm sure it won't be a popular viewpoint.... |
Wildewolfe |
Dec-07-06 04:48 PM |
#6 |
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It was two years for non-military service and, I think, four military. |
sarge43 |
Dec-07-06 05:44 PM |
#24 |
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Screw the service, support the service members |
itsmesgd |
Dec-07-06 04:51 PM |
#8 |
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It's what I always wanted. |
aquart |
Dec-07-06 04:56 PM |
#10 |
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NOT NO, BUT HELL NO. N/T |
BlackVelvet04 |
Dec-07-06 04:57 PM |
#11 |
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I'm open minded about about some sort of service |
Nutmegger |
Dec-07-06 05:04 PM |
#13 |
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Should be does not make it so |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:08 PM |
#15 |
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For discussion sake |
sarge43 |
Dec-07-06 05:10 PM |
#16 |
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OK |
BL611 |
Dec-07-06 05:34 PM |
#20 |
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What if you don't NEED money for college or health care? |
rocknation |
Dec-07-06 05:33 PM |
#19 |
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About the pay: |
Ron_Green |
Dec-07-06 05:40 PM |
#23 |
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Mandatory? No way! |
Greeby |
Dec-07-06 05:53 PM |
#27 |
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I've always favoured something along very similar lines... |
QuestionAll |
Dec-07-06 06:57 PM |
#37 |
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I like the idea, but |
dkofos |
Dec-08-06 02:52 PM |
#41 |
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Not quite true |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 02:56 PM |
#42 |
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the country should reward national service rather than mandate it |
orangepeel68 |
Dec-08-06 02:56 PM |
#43 |
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No. |
baby_mouse |
Dec-08-06 03:02 PM |
#44 |
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Do you have any evidence to back that up? |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 03:08 PM |
#45 |
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Only my grandfather's experience, as he told it to me. |
baby_mouse |
Dec-09-06 09:59 AM |
#92 |
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Forced national service fosters blind obedience to authority? |
neverforget |
Dec-08-06 03:28 PM |
#52 |
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Agreed -- to a point |
Firespirit |
Dec-08-06 03:33 PM |
#53 |
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I dropped out of high school and went to college at age 16. |
Firespirit |
Dec-08-06 03:15 PM |
#48 |
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Umm I'm 25 |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 03:33 PM |
#54 |
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So you don't think holding a job and paying taxes |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 03:39 PM |
#57 |
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Nope and you're an evil rightwing capitalist for thinking so |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-08-06 05:03 PM |
#77 |
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Apparently so...n/t |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 05:14 PM |
#80 |
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No -- I received a crappy education |
Firespirit |
Dec-08-06 03:43 PM |
#58 |
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I'm not pushing anyone into the military |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:09 PM |
#61 |
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I'm for it... |
youthere |
Dec-08-06 03:25 PM |
#50 |
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I thought it was a shitty idea last week, too. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-08-06 03:43 PM |
#59 |
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You are allowing the rest of society to suck the life energy out of the young |
wuushew |
Dec-08-06 04:26 PM |
#65 |
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I'm not quite sure |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:31 PM |
#67 |
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If your compulsory service started tomorrow... |
wuushew |
Dec-08-06 04:37 PM |
#69 |
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I didn't say it was a perfectly |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:40 PM |
#70 |
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The best ideas of progressives are those which "level" the playing field |
wuushew |
Dec-08-06 04:46 PM |
#71 |
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Sure, but again nothings perfect |
BL611 |
Dec-08-06 04:50 PM |
#73 |
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and who died and made your and your beliefs God? |
BlackVelvet04 |
Dec-09-06 05:25 PM |
#145 |
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I'm with ya, BL611, my generation made a BIG mistake in fighting |
bobbolink |
Dec-08-06 05:33 PM |
#86 |
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Easy to say now that it no longer affects you directly... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 05:45 PM |
#88 |
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I'm so very sick of the attacks here on DU. |
bobbolink |
Dec-08-06 05:49 PM |
#89 |
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Oh, the fact that I think you're wrong |
Mythsaje |
Dec-08-06 05:53 PM |
#90 |
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Yes, it's a personal attack. To deny it is either stupidity or intellectual dishonesty, imho. |
TahitiNut |
Dec-09-06 10:55 AM |
#93 |
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Poor baby |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 01:08 PM |
#98 |
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I wouldn't be too down |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:10 PM |
#99 |
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a big reason those of us in support don't stick around is the snark |
bobbolink |
Dec-09-06 05:48 PM |
#153 |
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I have to agree with you , BL611 |
StephenB48 |
Dec-10-06 03:05 PM |
#193 |
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I don't have a huge problem with it, but |
mycritters2 |
Dec-08-06 05:35 PM |
#87 |
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BL611 -- very well thought out. It will take a |
BushDespiser12 |
Dec-08-06 06:05 PM |
#91 |
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Not until there's democratic oversight of war. |
Orsino |
Dec-09-06 11:39 AM |
#94 |
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fuck that bullshit |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 01:07 PM |
#97 |
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Thanks |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:13 PM |
#101 |
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we've been over this a hundred times. |
tomp |
Dec-09-06 01:18 PM |
#105 |
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Excuse me |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:28 PM |
#109 |
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Your words are an insult to blind people everywhere |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 03:34 PM |
#122 |
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I don't want to contribute to your shitty thread or idea, I'm here to poo-pooh your plan |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 03:33 PM |
#121 |
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Why it may ask you to do something for others |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:32 PM |
#148 |
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I find it suspicious that a man at the top of the socioeconomic ladder... |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 11:50 AM |
#168 |
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You do know he |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:21 PM |
#188 |
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Ich bin ein overpriviledged, Harvard Educated, playboy... |
JVS |
Dec-12-06 07:31 AM |
#266 |
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gee, how to tell you what i think about your post... |
tomp |
Dec-09-06 01:13 PM |
#100 |
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Lets see... |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:15 PM |
#102 |
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see above reply to your reply to JVS... |
tomp |
Dec-09-06 01:22 PM |
#106 |
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See my reply above |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 01:29 PM |
#110 |
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Sounds good to me |
XemaSab |
Dec-09-06 01:17 PM |
#103 |
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Fully agree wiht you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 01:17 PM |
#104 |
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Some observations after going through the thread |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 01:41 PM |
#111 |
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Yeah, except that our accomplishments as creatures |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 03:08 PM |
#119 |
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Once again |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 03:44 PM |
#128 |
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Because where the line sits |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 03:58 PM |
#131 |
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Your right to your opinion is your prerogative |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 04:20 PM |
#134 |
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People honor their obligations to our society |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 08:41 PM |
#156 |
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Funny kids of previous |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:53 AM |
#164 |
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When was the last generation that "went?" |
Mythsaje |
Dec-10-06 02:22 AM |
#167 |
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No. The carrot is old hat, we need the stick |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 12:29 PM |
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Given my father lived through the horrors of a true |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:10 PM |
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#203 |
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And yet it doesn't affect me and I oppose it... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 07:03 PM |
#234 |
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I'm sorry you don't get it either |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 08:38 PM |
#238 |
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Probably not... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 08:39 PM |
#241 |
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Actually a collectivist authoritarian could as easily be |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 06:52 PM |
#233 |
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"We don't have to justify our disagreement to you |
BL611 |
Dec-11-06 11:06 AM |
#201 |
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If being wealthy causes people to be wasteful jerks why not just address that? |
wuushew |
Dec-11-06 12:50 PM |
#207 |
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What part of mandatory are you having a problem |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 02:41 PM |
#212 |
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Of course you don't... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:27 PM |
#214 |
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I have news for you that you may not like |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:26 PM |
#146 |
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Quite the assumptions you make here... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-09-06 08:50 PM |
#158 |
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Good for you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:51 AM |
#162 |
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I'm a semi-social animal |
Mythsaje |
Dec-10-06 02:14 AM |
#165 |
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Ok so you explain this to me |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:17 PM |
#186 |
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Seriously? |
Mythsaje |
Dec-10-06 03:05 PM |
#192 |
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You obviously have been talking |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 01:45 PM |
#208 |
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The economic draft is another issue |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:26 PM |
#213 |
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So what do you want to do |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 04:35 PM |
#220 |
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You want to translate your first line? It looks like gibberish... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:39 PM |
#222 |
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I did |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 04:52 PM |
#225 |
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Are you fucking kidding me? |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 06:11 PM |
#228 |
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No I don't twist it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 08:48 PM |
#246 |
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Even if it is, it's offering choices to people the system doesn't |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 08:59 PM |
#248 |
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I have |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 09:05 PM |
#250 |
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So what? |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 09:08 PM |
#252 |
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So you hsve issues with society |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 09:13 PM |
#253 |
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What part of ASKING do you not understand? |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 09:16 PM |
#254 |
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What part of economic draft are you missing? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 09:18 PM |
#255 |
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Any way you slice it, |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 09:40 PM |
#256 |
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And a NATIONAL SERVICE that is mandatory can |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 09:43 PM |
#257 |
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I think we're at the point we need to agree to disagree... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 11:03 PM |
#259 |
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No it is not gong to change it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 11:10 PM |
#260 |
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Right now the wealthy and the corporations |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 11:24 PM |
#261 |
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I believe the reason they are in charge |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 11:27 PM |
#262 |
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Unfortunately we live in a representative republic |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-06 12:00 AM |
#264 |
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Jefferson put it best |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-12-06 12:07 AM |
#265 |
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We're also an individual kind of animal that likes to tell people who want to take... |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 12:31 PM |
#174 |
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You still have to answer |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:22 PM |
#189 |
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2 years of killing people. Helping people obviously takes longer to break even |
JVS |
Dec-13-06 09:44 AM |
#271 |
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Your categories are wrong. The real ones are |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 03:37 PM |
#124 |
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Yep you are right |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:30 PM |
#147 |
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Six years is a big disruption in someones life. If you join the army and get killed it's also a... |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 12:22 PM |
#172 |
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The army would be an option |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:26 PM |
#191 |
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I think that's part of the problem here too... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-10-06 03:18 PM |
#195 |
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I know exactly what 18 years are |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 12:43 PM |
#204 |
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Nice attitude. |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:30 PM |
#215 |
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Well you'd rather continue in platitudes |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 04:33 PM |
#217 |
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Your contempt for the young shines pretty bright... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:35 PM |
#219 |
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You're wrong |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 04:36 PM |
#221 |
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And you assume that any kid you don't know is the kind of kid |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:40 PM |
#223 |
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I have contempt for those who hate service |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 04:54 PM |
#226 |
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OMG Nadin |
StephenB48 |
Dec-10-06 03:15 PM |
#194 |
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You welcome |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 02:23 PM |
#210 |
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This is one of the most disgusting posts I've ever read here. |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-10-06 10:28 PM |
#199 |
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They dismiss that argument out of hand... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:31 PM |
#216 |
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And we're childish and immoral for objecting |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-11-06 08:38 PM |
#239 |
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I see you've played this game before...n/t |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 08:47 PM |
#245 |
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Also, retired people should be called back into service somehow |
nini |
Dec-09-06 01:51 PM |
#112 |
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I doubt it'd be constitutional. |
tofunut |
Dec-09-06 01:52 PM |
#113 |
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The draft has been challenged in courts |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 01:55 PM |
#114 |
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True that. |
tofunut |
Dec-09-06 02:20 PM |
#115 |
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I just adressed the consitutionality issue |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 03:02 PM |
#118 |
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I think we're talking past each other a little here. |
tofunut |
Dec-09-06 03:11 PM |
#120 |
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Section 8 of the Constitution |
BL611 |
Dec-09-06 04:07 PM |
#133 |
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The CCC and other depresion era |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:33 PM |
#149 |
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Precedents as voluntary programs |
wuushew |
Dec-09-06 09:19 PM |
#160 |
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They were STILL taken to the coursts |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:52 AM |
#163 |
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I can't believe that you can at one time argue for giving the government huge control... |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 12:36 PM |
#175 |
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You did not get the joke over habeas corpus |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:04 PM |
#179 |
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It's not all about me so quit assuming that it is. I'm too old for... |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 01:07 PM |
#180 |
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Dec-10-06 01:07 PM |
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That is the way you have shown yourelf |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:11 PM |
#183 |
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It's not my generation. |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 01:12 PM |
#184 |
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Fair enough |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-10-06 01:23 PM |
#190 |
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Accuations of being selfish are not valid questions. |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 09:15 PM |
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Dec-11-06 12:46 PM |
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You might try not calling people selfish children... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 04:34 PM |
#218 |
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Met plenty of selfish children |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 04:57 PM |
#227 |
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Oh, there's plenty of people my age |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 06:14 PM |
#229 |
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I'm your age |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 08:39 PM |
#240 |
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What? |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 09:01 PM |
#249 |
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You are missing it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 09:07 PM |
#251 |
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But it's less fun |
JVS |
Dec-12-06 08:59 PM |
#268 |
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What part of the rich and powerful can always find a way out are you missing? |
JVS |
Dec-12-06 08:58 PM |
#267 |
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A great idea |
JVS |
Dec-09-06 03:34 PM |
#123 |
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This only works in countries which are not as hopelessly corrupt as the US. |
Vidar |
Dec-09-06 03:38 PM |
#125 |
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Countries are as corrupt as its citizens |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-09-06 05:41 PM |
#152 |
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There was a book about this |
Lasthorseman |
Dec-09-06 04:47 PM |
#140 |
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'Player Piano' by Kurt Vonnegut |
TahitiNut |
Dec-09-06 04:55 PM |
#141 |
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Kind of like |
Lasthorseman |
Dec-09-06 05:06 PM |
#142 |
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Yes our culture certainly has too much leisure |
JVS |
Dec-10-06 11:51 AM |
#169 |
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The problem with the libertarian argument is |
nam78_two |
Dec-09-06 05:18 PM |
#144 |
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The self centered are in every generation |
treestar |
Dec-13-06 10:01 AM |
#273 |
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hell no, this is bullshit and its begging to be abused |
ComerPerro |
Dec-09-06 06:00 PM |
#154 |
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so how old are you anyway? |
ComerPerro |
Dec-09-06 06:02 PM |
#155 |
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Irrelevant. How old are YOU? (Just as irrelevant.) |
TahitiNut |
Dec-09-06 08:54 PM |
#159 |
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As I have mentioned earlier |
BL611 |
Dec-11-06 11:11 AM |
#202 |
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Make it voluntary w/ the bennies and I think it's a great idea. n/t |
Zorra |
Dec-10-06 10:06 PM |
#198 |
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Not a good idea in my humble opinion |
Reterr |
Dec-11-06 12:47 PM |
#206 |
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If you cared to read |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 01:47 PM |
#209 |
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I bet you anything, especially now, that if this were implimented |
ComerPerro |
Dec-11-06 06:21 PM |
#231 |
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Oh, c'mon...we should just trust them. |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 07:05 PM |
#235 |
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It depends how it is written |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 08:40 PM |
#242 |
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No. Period. |
Zhade |
Dec-11-06 02:36 PM |
#211 |
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as a returned Peace Corps volunteer |
momophile |
Dec-11-06 04:40 PM |
#224 |
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You are going to find out that most DUers are against |
question everything |
Dec-11-06 06:19 PM |
#230 |
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Most DUers are against more authoritarian nonsense |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 06:51 PM |
#232 |
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How selfish of us to enjoy the benefits of a police state with no safety net... |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-11-06 08:23 PM |
#237 |
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Unpatriotic douchebags, these "I want to decide my life for myself" punks! |
JVS |
Dec-12-06 09:02 PM |
#269 |
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Kennedy was a product of a generation that got it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 08:42 PM |
#243 |
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Kennedy and his brother got sent to war to help the PR of their family... |
JVS |
Dec-12-06 09:04 PM |
#270 |
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national service |
SeaBob |
Dec-11-06 07:10 PM |
#236 |
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Another fan of Heimlein |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-11-06 08:43 PM |
#244 |
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Dude, I'M a fan of Heinlein |
Mythsaje |
Dec-11-06 08:49 PM |
#247 |
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Only draft war supporters |
antiimperialist |
Dec-11-06 09:43 PM |
#258 |
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For people over 55 perhaps... |
hughee99 |
Dec-11-06 11:58 PM |
#263 |
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No, because a free country just can't have that sort of thing |
treestar |
Dec-13-06 09:52 AM |
#272 |
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