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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 03:50 PM
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20. Yea, I realize you were talking about chain of command
I'm just not sure there's anything official that say that the VP and then the Secretary of State follow the President in the executive chain of command. I honestly think it depends on the President. Given Cheney's stature in the administration I'd be pretty certain that Bush has Cheney take over every time he steps out to go to the bathroom.

But lets take when Bush Senior was in office. I find it hard to believe that Poppy would ever let Dan Quayle get anywhere near making an executive decision if he could avoid it.

Yes, the West Wing portrays a particularly strong Chief of Staff but in real life the Chief of Staff is still responsible for managing the day to day business of the White House and formally is the closest advisor to the President. So it would make sense that he would continue to function in his role managing the White House in the absence of the President.

There's no reason that the Chief of Staff would all of a sudden start taking orders from the Secretary of State or a VP who wasn't acting President unless the President made it clear that one of those two would be in charge in his absence.


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  -Who will be the President pro-tem of the Senate? CTyankee  Dec-07-06 07:42 AM   #0 
  - I imagine Robert Byrd.  terrya   Dec-07-06 07:43 AM   #1 
  - That is the 'custom'. Wikipedia:  trof   Dec-07-06 07:46 AM   #3 
  - Robert Byrd.  longship   Dec-07-06 07:43 AM   #2 
  - Leaders and Committee Chair List  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-07-06 07:51 AM   #4 
  - Your spouse is correct, Byrd will be third in the presidential line of succession  Lasher   Dec-07-06 09:42 AM   #5 
  - Actually.......  suston96   Dec-07-06 10:44 AM   #8 
  - I think in the scenario you speak of, the Chief of Staff would be in charge  Hippo_Tron   Dec-07-06 11:03 AM   #9 
  - The ranking cabinet member......  suston96   Dec-07-06 02:04 PM   #13 
     - Yea, I realize you were talking about chain of command  Hippo_Tron   Dec-07-06 03:50 PM   #20 
        - See my other reply....  suston96   Dec-07-06 04:23 PM   #22 
           - I'm fully aware of the situation  Hippo_Tron   Dec-07-06 05:42 PM   #23 
  - But he DIDN'T leave out "constitutionally" so it's a moot point.  Kingshakabobo   Dec-07-06 11:14 AM   #11 
  - Close but no cigar  Lasher   Dec-07-06 02:01 PM   #12 
     - As I said, Constitutionally.....  suston96   Dec-07-06 02:49 PM   #14 
        - The 25th Amendment does not specify a time delay or a process that could promote one  Lasher   Dec-07-06 03:36 PM   #19 
           - Uh, there is a problem....  suston96   Dec-07-06 04:13 PM   #21 
              - There's nothing legally that says the Secretary of State was the ranking officer in the White House  Hippo_Tron   Dec-07-06 05:49 PM   #25 
                 - Ranking member in the Executive present....  suston96   Dec-07-06 06:31 PM   #26 
  - Excellent information. You know your stuff and I thank you  CTyankee   Dec-07-06 03:03 PM   #15 
     - Aw shucks, wadn't nothin'  Lasher   Dec-07-06 03:15 PM   #17 
        - Yep. I read Hip. Great stuff.  CTyankee   Dec-07-06 03:31 PM   #18 
           - That rumor's been going around in one form or another for awhile now  Lasher   Dec-08-06 12:47 AM   #30 
  - Oh, brother  HamdenRice   Dec-07-06 09:45 AM   #6 
  - Good thread over there.  Lasher   Dec-07-06 10:16 AM   #7 
  - She would be first in line but she would not assume the office of the Vice Presidency  Hippo_Tron   Dec-07-06 11:06 AM   #10 
     - Absolutely correct Hippo, thanks for the correction  Lasher   Dec-07-06 03:10 PM   #16 
  - I'm Not Sure Why You Are Acting So Smug When You're Not In The Right.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-07-06 08:40 PM   #29 
     - Thank you for your support  CTyankee   Dec-08-06 07:29 AM   #31 
     - It would take a catastrophe for this to be relevant  HamdenRice   Dec-08-06 07:43 AM   #32 
        - Please Directly Answer This Question:  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-08-06 04:26 PM   #33 
  - Your spuse correct about the line of succession  Jack Rabbit   Dec-07-06 05:48 PM   #24 
     - Well, this seems to be a problem. Why have it if we have a  CTyankee   Dec-07-06 07:32 PM   #27 
        - The Speaker of the House has never succeeded to the presidency (yet)  Jack Rabbit   Dec-07-06 08:34 PM   #28 
 

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