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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:24 PM
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52. you are not factoring in health insurance
i see you are in college so you are young and don't need it

at my age health insurance alone starts at several hundred dollars a month for a woman in good health and that's with deductibles and co-pays

your $350 would not even cover my health costs and i'm a slim non-smoker

you are a college kid and don't know the real world yet, which is nice for you, but it means that you are making statements about finances based on total ignorance

a middle-aged woman who is not fast on her feet can't even pay rent for $350 a month, the kind of neighborhood she'd have to live in, she'd be dead in a month, at your age you can always run faster from the bad guys i guess

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  -What should the federal minimum wage be? PistolSteve  Dec-04-06 04:16 PM   #0 
  - it should be a living waged tied directly to inflation  WindRavenX   Dec-04-06 04:18 PM   #1 
  - So should it go down with inflation too?  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:27 PM   #4 
  - I know nothing about econ, but I think...  WindRavenX   Dec-04-06 04:31 PM   #5 
     - Yes, lowered inflation means lower prices  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:37 PM   #9 
        - Paychecks don't change much by the year anyway  DireStrike   Dec-04-06 05:22 PM   #24 
        - Yea, but would it be better if the boor got a paycut with a decrease in inflation? nt  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 08:23 PM   #61 
           - I have no problems with that  DireStrike   Dec-04-06 08:36 PM   #62 
        - gotcha  WindRavenX   Dec-04-06 05:25 PM   #27 
  - I'd prefer it be tied to the consumer price index  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-04-06 04:38 PM   #10 
     - But then should it be possible for it to decrease? nt  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 05:19 PM   #23 
        - Here's a graph showing US price levels from 1665 to 2005  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-04-06 05:58 PM   #48 
           - What a great chart. Thanks for that.  endarkenment   Dec-05-06 04:10 PM   #74 
  - $15 is $600 a week. Can you live on that? nt.  endarkenment   Dec-04-06 04:20 PM   #2 
  - $600 a week? I live on $350 a month.... nt  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:23 PM   #3 
  - $2400/month?...God yes! But it should vary by state. nt  MJDuncan1982   Dec-04-06 09:29 PM   #68 
     - Yes sure, $15 in most urban areas is tough to get by on.  endarkenment   Dec-05-06 08:34 AM   #71 
        - I said in my post that it should vary by state. nt  MJDuncan1982   Dec-05-06 04:28 PM   #75 
  - $15 an hour.  CrispyQGirl   Dec-04-06 04:32 PM   #6 
  - A family of four with only one adult working...  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:34 PM   #8 
  - I'm surprised at the number of people who voted 'over $15'  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:32 PM   #7 
  - then complain to your employer  Donnachaidh   Dec-04-06 04:38 PM   #11 
  - Don't worry about that...  hughee99   Dec-04-06 04:41 PM   #13 
     - Yes I would be upset... that is my point  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:45 PM   #14 
     - I agree...  hughee99   Dec-04-06 04:49 PM   #15 
     - That's why those who advocate a substantial raise also recommend doing it in stages  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-04-06 05:08 PM   #19 
     - It doesn't work that way.  Selatius   Dec-04-06 05:37 PM   #40 
        - Yes...  hughee99   Dec-04-06 08:38 PM   #63 
  - I ran some numbers on this awhile back  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-04-06 04:39 PM   #12 
  - I think $15.00 is a good start.  The Anti-Neo Con   Dec-04-06 04:49 PM   #16 
  - where the hell does $30,000 a year only give you a 'basic' lifestyle?  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 04:55 PM   #17 
     - In a city, that's something like the poverty line.  DireStrike   Dec-04-06 05:25 PM   #28 
     - So... get a roomate - $2600 a month isn't a 'basic' lifestyle  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 05:41 PM   #42 
     - Well, try HERE in California  lapfog_1   Dec-04-06 05:37 PM   #39 
     - $1200 a month does not equal $600 a week nt  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 05:39 PM   #41 
     - I assumed your $600/week was pre-tax  lapfog_1   Dec-04-06 05:48 PM   #45 
     - we really shouldn't base a national minimum wage  hfojvt   Dec-04-06 09:47 PM   #69 
     - you are not factoring in health insurance  pitohui   Dec-04-06 06:24 PM   #52 
  - Have you ever thought of how people are going to pay for this?  originalpckelly   Dec-04-06 05:03 PM   #18 
  - There is zero evidence that modest increases  endarkenment   Dec-05-06 08:31 AM   #70 
     - That's right and "A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats." n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-05-06 08:38 AM   #72 
  - it should be a percentage of what the top dogs in the company make.  QuestionAll...   Dec-04-06 05:08 PM   #20 
  - I concur:  HypnoToad   Dec-04-06 05:12 PM   #21 
  - The last 3 I agree with, but the first one I have trouble with...  originalpckelly   Dec-04-06 05:28 PM   #32 
  - I disagree - I hate that logic  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 05:12 PM   #22 
     - okay, that sounds fine too. company profits not CEO salaries.  QuestionAll...   Dec-04-06 05:23 PM   #25 
        - Agreed - profits would have to be better defined... nt  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 05:31 PM   #34 
  - Here's the history of the federal minimum wage in TODAY'S dollars  TahitiNut   Dec-04-06 05:24 PM   #26 
  - I refer you to post #18(nt)  originalpckelly   Dec-04-06 05:26 PM   #30 
  - Here ...  TahitiNut   Dec-04-06 05:34 PM   #37 
     - Well, I don't know what to make of the taxes...  originalpckelly   Dec-04-06 09:14 PM   #67 
  - The CPI may actually be low-balling the real rate of inflation.  Selatius   Dec-04-06 05:55 PM   #47 
     - There seems to be a significant amount of 'spin in the steak v. hamburger analog.  TahitiNut   Dec-04-06 06:46 PM   #53 
        - I'm not advocating junking the CPI  Selatius   Dec-05-06 08:39 AM   #73 
  - It SHOULD be relative to the cost of living in the location of the employee...  porphyrian   Dec-04-06 05:26 PM   #29 
  - All depends on where you live.  lapfog_1   Dec-04-06 05:27 PM   #31 
  - If the goal is for it to be a living income...  kiahzero   Dec-04-06 05:29 PM   #33 
  - That is an excellent idea  MUSTANG_2004   Dec-05-06 05:09 PM   #76 
  - There shouldn't be a federal minimum wage  slackmaster   Dec-04-06 05:33 PM   #35 
  - I like that... I'll have to think about it more. nt  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 05:34 PM   #38 
  - It should be a liveable wage, and we should have universal health care.  impeachdubya   Dec-04-06 05:33 PM   #36 
  - 1997 was the last raise.  Selatius   Dec-04-06 05:41 PM   #43 
     - Thanks for the answer. nt  impeachdubya   Dec-04-06 05:43 PM   #44 
  - Why not raise it really high?  Abuhans   Dec-04-06 05:51 PM   #46 
  - You're right - you're not an economist.  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 06:13 PM   #50 
     - Could do with out the insult but ok  Abuhans   Dec-04-06 06:19 PM   #51 
        - Very simply, yes.  Kelly Rupert   Dec-04-06 06:51 PM   #54 
        - No - it isn't a straight line graph...  PistolSteve   Dec-04-06 06:55 PM   #56 
        - Fallacy of scale - small amounts of water are needed for drinking but LARGE amounts kill.  TahitiNut   Dec-04-06 07:06 PM   #58 
           - Good points  Abuhans   Dec-04-06 07:56 PM   #60 
              - Not all employees/employers are covered under FLSA.  TahitiNut   Dec-04-06 09:09 PM   #66 
  - It should be tied to the President's salary.  philosophie_en_rose   Dec-04-06 05:59 PM   #49 
  - I'd prefer that Senators and Representatives be paid a fixed multiple of the minimum wage ...  TahitiNut   Dec-04-06 06:54 PM   #55 
     - Works for me!  philosophie_en_rose   Dec-04-06 07:40 PM   #59 
  - Should be tied into a COLA index. n/t  rucky   Dec-04-06 06:59 PM   #57 
  - Any minimum wage must be indexed to inflation.  Selatius   Dec-04-06 08:38 PM   #64 
  - $15 an hour today would buy me what $1.25 an hour did  Cleita   Dec-04-06 08:41 PM   #65 
  - I'd vote "Other" but there was no "Other" option. A rant, it's long.  Nobody   Dec-05-06 05:50 PM   #77 

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