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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 03:19 PM
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1. proudly kicking and recommending-- we must get these criminals...
...out of high American office. We are a nation involved in crimes against humanity, led by a war criminal. This is America's shame.
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  -"If the impeachment provision in the Constitution. . ." --Barbara Jordan pat_k  Nov-27-06 03:14 PM   #0 
  - proudly kicking and recommending-- we must get these criminals...  mike_c   Nov-27-06 03:19 PM   #1 
  - More power to you if you can convince 16 Republican Senators cause that's what it will take.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-28-06 11:28 AM   #47 
     - Probably 17...  GOTV   Nov-28-06 12:15 PM   #49 
  - Thank you  magellan   Nov-27-06 03:20 PM   #2 
  - Barbara Jordan  kineneb   Nov-27-06 03:21 PM   #3 
  - Of the "Top 100" her '76 DNC Keynote ranks 5th (this one is 13th)  pat_k   Nov-27-06 04:09 PM   #11 
  - K & R wow what a cool site. Thanks for posting nt.  glitch   Nov-27-06 06:20 PM   #21 
  - She is one of my ALL-TIME heroes! Amazing, incredible, awesome human being!  TahitiNut   Nov-28-06 01:31 AM   #33 
  - K&R  flamin lib   Nov-27-06 03:22 PM   #4 
  - Kick & Nominated  pberq   Nov-27-06 03:26 PM   #5 
  - words of power and wisdom  grizmaster   Nov-27-06 03:26 PM   #6 
  - Rep, Jordan speaks truth to power.  Disturbed   Nov-28-06 04:38 AM   #40 
  - Now there was a magnificent woman.  calimary   Nov-27-06 03:27 PM   #7 
  - Spine-tingling. . .  pat_k   Nov-27-06 04:13 PM   #12 
  - Recommended  bonito   Nov-27-06 03:30 PM   #8 
  - Senator's journal is amazing.  Gregorian   Nov-27-06 03:31 PM   #9 
  - Can listen to an mp2 on americanrhetoric.com. . .  pat_k   Nov-27-06 04:15 PM   #13 
     - Great website!  Gregorian   Nov-27-06 04:52 PM   #17 
  - Bush is the reason why the founders invented impeachment  rman   Nov-27-06 03:32 PM   #10 
  - I've done a lot of thinking about the whole impeachment issue and  BlackVelvet04   Nov-27-06 04:24 PM   #14 
  - Right to the point! Well said! nt  puebloknot   Nov-27-06 04:32 PM   #16 
  - Leaving the world of calculation for one of infinite possibility  pat_k   Nov-27-06 07:43 PM   #26 
  - How will Impeachment without conviction protect anything?  GOTV   Nov-28-06 01:22 PM   #57 
     - We all have a choice: the right side of history or the wrong side. Win or lose.  pat_k   Nov-28-06 10:16 PM   #74 
     - "Standing and fighting for principles" is not the same as impeachment  GOTV   Nov-29-06 09:40 AM   #83 
        - The principle of consent does not constitute "principle"?  pat_k   Nov-29-06 10:30 AM   #86 
           - Impeachment is a weapon, I agree - and Bush is presently out of range  GOTV   Nov-29-06 11:52 AM   #92 
              - The duty of the House is to accuse --- to impeach. Well within range.  pat_k   Nov-29-06 01:57 PM   #96 
                 - I think everyone knows that the House probably can "impeach"...  calipendence   Nov-29-06 05:07 PM   #103 
                    - The case for impeachment is simple, clear, convincing, and complete.  pat_k   Nov-29-06 11:46 PM   #107 
                       - That article doesn't apply to me. I'm NOT advocating inaction on impeachment...  calipendence   Nov-30-06 10:03 AM   #108 
                          - You are are opposing impeachment on the clear, compelling, and complete case we have.  pat_k   Nov-30-06 07:56 PM   #113 
                             - Please don't call me anti-impeachment...  calipendence   Nov-30-06 09:06 PM   #115 
                                - I do not challenge your desire for impeachment, only the rationalizations you invoke  pat_k   Dec-01-06 02:09 PM   #117 
                                   - I think we need to separate what we want and what should and could happen...  calipendence   Dec-01-06 04:36 PM   #118 
                                      - Who said anything about "stop everything else that you might be investigating"?  pat_k   Dec-01-06 08:26 PM   #119 
     - Any Impeachment that is not bi-partisan will be met with a large  312MIB   Dec-01-06 09:19 PM   #120 
  - K&R to Powers of 10!  puebloknot   Nov-27-06 04:30 PM   #15 
  - Jaywalking is enough to impeach, when you control the House....  GOTV   Nov-28-06 01:34 PM   #58 
     - You think...  puebloknot   Nov-28-06 05:04 PM   #66 
        - Yes, I do think that in fact.  GOTV   Nov-29-06 09:45 AM   #84 
  - Barbara Jordan=Cynthia McKinney  Independent_Liberal   Nov-27-06 05:04 PM   #18 
  - McKinney is a hero. Note she's appearing 12/4 in DC at an  petgoat   Nov-27-06 05:42 PM   #20 
  - No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.  Vinca   Nov-28-06 06:49 AM   #42 
  - selfdelete  rman   Nov-29-06 09:35 AM   #82 
  - Send this to all your senators, and a special copy to Feingold.  mom cat   Nov-27-06 05:38 PM   #19 
  - My only desire to wait to accuse is to get a COMPLETE investigation!  calipendence   Nov-27-06 06:36 PM   #22 
  - There's nothing to "investigate"  Senator   Nov-27-06 07:38 PM   #24 
     - I want a two thirds vote in the Senate to put both of them out of office!  calipendence   Nov-27-06 08:35 PM   #27 
     - {must investigate} = {don't have a case} = {nullify powerful case we HAVE}  pat_k   Nov-28-06 01:14 AM   #31 
     - If we can continue to investigate to add to our case, by all means file articles of impeachment!  calipendence   Nov-28-06 08:44 AM   #44 
     - {Powerful case} - {67 Senators who agree} = {it doesn't matter}  GOTV   Nov-28-06 01:02 PM   #55 
        - {Failure to accuse} = {Exoneration} = {"Accessory After the Fact" War Criminal}  pat_k   Nov-28-06 03:27 PM   #60 
           - {impeachment} - {conviction} = {exoneration} also  GOTV   Nov-29-06 10:18 AM   #85 
              - So, you think police should not pursue and arrest unless they are certain. . .  pat_k   Nov-29-06 11:04 AM   #88 
                 - Police, like everyone, should not use methods expected to fail - yes.  GOTV   Nov-29-06 12:02 PM   #93 
                    - When police successfully apprehend, their duty is done. If the House successfully impeaches. . .  pat_k   Nov-29-06 01:35 PM   #94 
     - And while waiting until you're "ready now"...  Senator   Nov-28-06 04:08 AM   #39 
        - I don't want to wait either...  calipendence   Nov-28-06 08:39 AM   #43 
           - You are waiting for Godot (and perhaps Waterloo)  Senator   Nov-28-06 09:17 AM   #45 
           - Not even 67% of the country is for Imp, how will you get 67 Senators?  GOTV   Nov-28-06 12:53 PM   #52 
           - The Senators will "get" themselves...  Senator   Nov-29-06 05:05 AM   #80 
              - Impeachment defends nothing, only conviction does any good.  GOTV   Nov-29-06 11:35 AM   #89 
                 - Yes, you've said -- "only conviction" for you  Senator   Nov-29-06 03:19 PM   #98 
                    - Likewise none of you are planning properly for impeachment  GOTV   Nov-29-06 04:08 PM   #99 
                    - Then please do post the "Proper Plan"  Senator   Nov-29-06 06:18 PM   #104 
                       - Ok, I'm not privvy to all info that congress critters have, but here's a start...  calipendence   Nov-29-06 09:37 PM   #106 
                          - I see  Senator   Nov-30-06 01:49 PM   #109 
                             - Congress having power is EXACTLY my point!...  calipendence   Nov-30-06 02:23 PM   #110 
                                - Again, this is looking for "proof"...  Senator   Nov-30-06 10:50 PM   #116 
                    - Yes, I don't think there's many here that don't want to fight the battle. I do!  calipendence   Nov-29-06 05:00 PM   #102 
                       - See my post #104 above  Senator   Nov-29-06 08:35 PM   #105 
           - ...slap in the face...  puebloknot   Nov-28-06 05:24 PM   #67 
           - You know your shit calipendence...  Independent_Liberal   Nov-28-06 02:50 PM   #59 
     - It doesn't matter if Bush drinks the blood of babies on TV ...  GOTV   Nov-28-06 12:46 PM   #51 
        - The following Republicans are up for re-election in 2008...  calipendence   Nov-28-06 04:04 PM   #62 
        - Roberts will probably go down in the Plame/Niger/Yellowcake/WMD/Intelligence Leak cover-up.  Independent_Liberal   Nov-28-06 07:37 PM   #71 
        - Exactly, and how do their constituents feel about impeachment?  GOTV   Nov-29-06 09:29 AM   #81 
        - It's time for impeachment as soon...  puebloknot   Nov-28-06 05:03 PM   #65 
           - For me I completely agree SOME attempt at impeachment needs to happen!  calipendence   Nov-28-06 05:29 PM   #68 
              - Justice delayed is justice denied!  puebloknot   Nov-29-06 01:23 AM   #77 
                 - Well , no Justice today - so it's denied then?, or will you wait another day?  GOTV   Nov-29-06 11:47 AM   #91 
                    - Ignoring your sarcasm for a moment...  puebloknot   Nov-30-06 04:03 PM   #111 
  - Bravo!  TheGoldenRule   Nov-27-06 06:52 PM   #23 
  - Indeed. There are a lot of cowards here.  Zhade   Nov-28-06 04:04 AM   #38 
  - So simple even Bush could sell it....  GOTV   Nov-28-06 12:57 PM   #53 
  - Yep.  bobthedrummer   Dec-07-06 07:29 PM   #123 
  - goddamned right put these criminals in prison  emald   Nov-27-06 07:43 PM   #25 
  - A little something for the "Impeach Cheney first" crowd (I'm in this group too)...  Independent_Liberal   Nov-27-06 10:08 PM   #28 
  - Bush and Cheney are a package -- you can't charge one w/o the other. . .  pat_k   Nov-28-06 11:41 AM   #48 
  - She was one of the greats  ninkasi   Nov-27-06 11:50 PM   #29 
  - I can hear her voice! What an inspiration she was/is. The point she makes here is why it seems that  omega minimo   Nov-28-06 12:24 AM   #30 
  - . . .a geometric progression of awareness and action . .  pat_k   Nov-28-06 02:26 AM   #35 
     - Nice work pat_k. Here's one for the "strategerists" and spoiled cynics  omega minimo   Nov-28-06 12:18 PM   #50 
     - Thank you -- you're "Impeace" post is powerful. . .  pat_k   Nov-28-06 07:34 PM   #70 
        - too "challenging"  omega minimo   Nov-29-06 10:51 AM   #87 
     - A great many of those on "our side"...  puebloknot   Nov-30-06 04:15 PM   #112 
  - Barbara Jordan rocked! She was a great Lady!  BikeWriter   Nov-28-06 01:22 AM   #32 
  - Barbara Jordan was a remarkable woman  XOKCowboy   Nov-28-06 01:31 AM   #34 
  - Were she here now I'd vote for her for President in a minute!  BikeWriter   Nov-28-06 02:35 AM   #36 
  - K & R  malaise   Nov-28-06 03:12 AM   #37 
  - She was one of a kind & I miss seeing & hearing her speak  Alamom   Nov-28-06 05:28 AM   #41 
  - Somebody quick! Pull the the plug on Bush's paper shreder!  followthemoney   Nov-28-06 11:08 AM   #46 
  - Our representatives will do what we tell them to do. If that's impeachment, they will impeach.  porphyrian   Nov-28-06 12:58 PM   #54 
  - That's right. So the path to removal from office begins with the people...  GOTV   Nov-28-06 01:12 PM   #56 
     - The burden is on them. They took an oath.  pat_k   Nov-28-06 04:03 PM   #61 
        - I believe that's true as well. - n/t  porphyrian   Nov-28-06 06:40 PM   #69 
        - Oaths are irrelevant to what will actually happen...  GOTV   Nov-29-06 11:42 AM   #90 
           - No. We should remember WHY we take oaths.  pat_k   Nov-29-06 02:18 PM   #97 
              - What one SHOULD do and what one WILL do are different - and only 1 of those are relevant  GOTV   Nov-29-06 04:14 PM   #100 
                 - No. The duty we have charged them with is what we demand. What they ARE doing is betraying, , ,  pat_k   Nov-29-06 04:30 PM   #101 
  - You conveniently missed her tag line in this speech.  longship   Nov-28-06 04:19 PM   #63 
  - Excluded because it doesn't apply now, as I point out in the the section that follows the excerpts.  pat_k   Nov-28-06 04:31 PM   #64 
     - Doesn't apply?  longship   Nov-29-06 12:09 AM   #75 
        - You're assertions are orthogonal to the points that I, and others, have made. . .  pat_k   Nov-29-06 12:30 AM   #76 
           - No disputes there at all.  longship   Nov-29-06 01:32 AM   #78 
              - If they don't trust the public with the truth and accuse Bush and Cheney . . .  pat_k   Nov-29-06 02:15 AM   #79 
  - Somewhere's along the way Bush must be impeached, amerika would suck if not!!  Imagevision   Nov-28-06 07:39 PM   #72 
  - K wish I could R! n/t  AntiFascist   Nov-28-06 07:56 PM   #73 
  - Almost missed this  Jcrowley   Nov-29-06 01:37 PM   #95 
  - She was an amazing speaker--there will never be another one like her  Perragrande   Nov-30-06 08:57 PM   #114 
  - Perhaps the time is ripe to revive the effort? With DUers as a resource for seed money. . .  pat_k   Dec-06-06 02:52 PM   #122 
  - KICK.  bobthedrummer   Dec-06-06 09:51 AM   #121 
 

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