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Sat Nov-25-06 10:59 PM
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Edited on Sat Nov-25-06 11:19 PM by Spider Jerusalem
Christmas, at least, is just a thin Christianising of the ancient pagan solstice festival. The Feast of the Unconquered Sun. Saturnalia. Easter? Same thing, only on the spring equinox instead of winter solstice. Thanksgiving? The fall harvset festival, and traditionally, rejoicing over a successful crop and avoidance of famine (something to be grateful for in the days before modern agriculture).
The civic holidays don't have these cultural traditions, being meant more to foster a sense of national unity, but they exist for a reason, too.
The fact that American culture has commercialised things to an absurd degree doesn't make them "bullshit"; that's a historically and culturally ignorant attitude.
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| -Holidays are bullshit. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, et al. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 03:06 PM |
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Merry |
qazplm |
Nov-25-06 03:09 PM |
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Posted 3 times... do you feel rather strongly about this? |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-25-06 03:10 PM |
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See edit to original. I couldn't delete the first two and I couldn't get help from |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 03:45 PM |
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It's okay; just thought you wanted to make sure we knew how you felt ;) |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-25-06 04:11 PM |
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sorry- many of us are on a "holiday" schedule. |
ncrainbowgrrl |
Nov-25-06 05:59 PM |
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Hey, you're entitled. And thank you for all you do to keep this site civil. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 06:22 PM |
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Thanks, Cyrano! |
ncrainbowgrrl |
Nov-26-06 08:14 PM |
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You're right, Bullshit is all around us. |
FitzmasAgain |
Nov-25-06 03:13 PM |
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I first heard this as Sturgeon's Law. |
IMModerate |
Nov-25-06 11:39 PM |
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Don't join in - you'll make everyone around you happy |
nini |
Nov-25-06 03:14 PM |
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Spot on. n/t |
spoony |
Nov-25-06 03:35 PM |
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What's to FORGIVE? Who wants some downer, griper, complainer and curmudgeon |
MADem |
Nov-25-06 03:15 PM |
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Bah. Humbug. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 03:22 PM |
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you don't get it |
Skittles |
Nov-25-06 10:46 PM |
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Oh, I get it, all right. The glass, to your mind, is half empty. I disagree. |
MADem |
Nov-26-06 09:41 AM |
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Yeah, maybe ... |
liberalEd |
Nov-25-06 03:18 PM |
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I wish you were right, but I have the feeling that that lousy prick has |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 03:23 PM |
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Festivus for the rest of us! |
jazzjunkysue |
Nov-26-06 05:40 PM |
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Well hell .... |
Trajan |
Nov-25-06 03:19 PM |
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Sorry. Didn't mean to be a party pooper. That is until you mentioned "Ishtar." |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 04:07 PM |
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I DID bring you cheer ... |
Trajan |
Nov-25-06 04:10 PM |
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Yes. And I thank you for it. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 05:18 PM |
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Then let me refresh your memory |
dddem |
Nov-26-06 10:47 AM |
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Who pissed in your corn flakes this morning? |
11 Bravo |
Nov-25-06 03:24 PM |
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I do admit there is something slightly obscene about those of us |
nam78_two |
Nov-25-06 03:26 PM |
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Screw that crap, I see it thusly: |
The Straight Story |
Nov-25-06 03:29 PM |
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Good thoughts. From your lips to God's ear. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 04:41 PM |
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Self delete - responded to wrong post. Oops! |
tpsbmam |
Nov-25-06 05:21 PM |
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Sure the crass commercialism of the holidays |
walldude |
Nov-25-06 03:34 PM |
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I'll be spending most of the upcoming holidays with my brother |
MoseyWalker |
Nov-25-06 03:35 PM |
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Hey, MoseyWalker: Whatever your brother thinks, please know that |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 05:57 PM |
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Is your post part of the 99% that is bullshit? -- I vote yes |
Zensea |
Nov-25-06 03:39 PM |
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I would |
Codeblue |
Nov-25-06 06:40 PM |
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My family is thousands of miles away, that's why |
Zensea |
Nov-25-06 10:28 PM |
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..... |
ruiner4u |
Nov-25-06 03:51 PM |
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Holidays are what you make of them |
MadHound |
Nov-25-06 04:21 PM |
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Nor will I, whatever the reason. Any time we retrieve from our |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 04:50 PM |
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Hey, why not celebrate Christmas by volunteering in a soup... |
1620rock |
Nov-25-06 05:14 PM |
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Great ideas |
nam78_two |
Nov-25-06 07:33 PM |
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I love the holidays. |
kstewart33 |
Nov-25-06 04:57 PM |
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Holidays are bullshit. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, et al. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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take the days off and make up your own-- I mean it..... |
mike_c |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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99% of everything is bullshit. But for someone who doesn't get to |
lectrobyte |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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Heh.. I was thinking of writing a rant thread onthe holidays last night.. |
BlueStorm |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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To those who are so bent out of shape by holidays: GET OVER IT! |
elocs |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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The reason you see these kinds of rants at this time of the year |
Nobody |
Nov-26-06 10:09 AM |
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maybe, but I like the parties |
Retrograde |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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So...don't celebrate them |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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Work! |
acmejack |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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Certainly your choice to not celebrate - |
lynne |
Nov-25-06 05:12 PM |
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can i still celebrate |
pansypoo53219 |
Nov-25-06 05:13 PM |
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Holidays are bullshit. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, et al. |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 05:14 PM |
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But not Bunny Easter. See below: |
rzemanfl |
Nov-25-06 05:14 PM |
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Hilarious, thanks! |
lectrobyte |
Nov-25-06 05:14 PM |
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Perry Bible Fellowship has some of the wildest cartoons on the |
rzemanfl |
Nov-25-06 05:14 PM |
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:) |
Bluebear |
Nov-25-06 05:15 PM |
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We need a "Topless Women" holiday |
Joey Liberal |
Nov-25-06 05:15 PM |
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Only if we have a cute man butt day... |
Clark2008 |
Nov-25-06 05:15 PM |
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To many people these holidays represent something significant... |
Dick Diver |
Nov-25-06 05:15 PM |
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Hmmmm, lack of foregiveness. "No one cares a rat's ass what you think." |
Cyrano |
Nov-25-06 06:15 PM |
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I See What You Mean, But . . . . |
Dinger |
Nov-25-06 05:15 PM |
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You might consider each holiday to be a free pass to do or feel whatever the fuck you |
mondo joe |
Nov-25-06 05:18 PM |
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Without Christmas |
Sherman A1 |
Nov-25-06 05:25 PM |
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I somewhat agree, but mostly don't. |
InvisibleTouch |
Nov-25-06 05:53 PM |
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The popular culture and media make them all suck. |
SmokingJacket |
Nov-25-06 06:47 PM |
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I have my issues with holidays but |
Raine |
Nov-25-06 07:49 PM |
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now hang on there just a minute |
kineneb |
Nov-25-06 07:49 PM |
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No present for you. And if they need someone at work, I'm giving them your # |
JVS |
Nov-25-06 07:55 PM |
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this is ONLY your perception. your reality to live. others DONT live |
seabeyond |
Nov-25-06 08:51 PM |
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LOL! |
mtnsnake |
Nov-25-06 09:35 PM |
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Don't celebrate them then. Or volunteer to work on holidays, and |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-25-06 09:50 PM |
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those shoppers sickened me |
Skittles |
Nov-25-06 10:45 PM |
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Eh. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Nov-25-06 10:59 PM |
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Grump |
Mr_Spock |
Nov-25-06 11:05 PM |
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make your own memories. this is the first thanksgiving without my |
roguevalley |
Nov-25-06 11:14 PM |
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I enthusiastically observe any holiday... |
IMModerate |
Nov-25-06 11:43 PM |
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Christmas and consumption go hand in hand and it is one reason |
Maraya1969 |
Nov-26-06 01:16 AM |
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Oh please, this post happens every year and it's the same BS |
JCMach1 |
Nov-26-06 01:40 AM |
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haha, I love the annual holiday posts then. Funny in a black humor kind of way |
mtnsnake |
Nov-26-06 09:41 PM |
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I'll throw you a hearty Bah hum bug on that one Cyrano. |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-26-06 01:47 AM |
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yay! an ally! let's go celebrate! i'll bring the wine in a box and a Chopin compilation! |
NuttyFluffers |
Nov-26-06 02:46 AM |
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Well, we could at least consolidate then, no? |
eridani |
Nov-26-06 02:48 AM |
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Want to have a party with Christian history? |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-26-06 02:49 AM |
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what's it like to go through life so miserable...? |
QuestionAll |
Nov-26-06 03:21 AM |
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I challenge you to re-think your curmudgeonly stance |
NJCher |
Nov-26-06 03:31 AM |
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I hate the rampant and ugly commercialism of the holidays! |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-26-06 08:47 AM |
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A warm fuzzy feeling. |
happydreams |
Nov-26-06 03:03 PM |
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the holidays are what you make them |
Perragrande |
Nov-26-06 03:30 PM |
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Holidays... |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-26-06 03:36 PM |
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They are all culturally mandated spending sprees. |
Old Broad |
Nov-26-06 03:44 PM |
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Exactly. If you've ever worked in retail before christmas,, you get it. |
jazzjunkysue |
Nov-26-06 05:30 PM |
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I love holidays! |
cwydro |
Nov-26-06 03:50 PM |
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Most everything seems like bullshit these days, doesn't it? |
Blue State Native |
Nov-26-06 05:37 PM |
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guess what? |
Perragrande |
Nov-26-06 05:46 PM |
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Christmas is a pagan holiday about a yule log. It's not christian at all. |
jazzjunkysue |
Nov-26-06 05:50 PM |
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Imagine there's no bullshit. It's easy if you try. |
Lilith Velkor |
Nov-26-06 06:07 PM |
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I totally disagree |
BoneDaddy |
Nov-26-06 08:51 PM |
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agreed. Holidays are for selling crap you don't really need the... |
QuestionAll... |
Nov-26-06 09:44 PM |
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I always noticed that the "holidays" were a huge amount of work |
roody |
Nov-26-06 10:20 PM |
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Like someone else said, holidays are what you make of them. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-26-06 10:36 PM |
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