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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:49 PM
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68. Thanks for posting this ......
I'll take a helping of your popcorn if you have any left.
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  -"Rangel is right about the need for national service" TahitiNut  Nov-24-06 11:50 AM   #0 
  - I agree , I'll be watching this post,,, Some people get inflamed .  bahrbearian   Nov-24-06 11:53 AM   #1 
  - Would you like some? I have extra.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 12:42 PM   #18 
     - Pass sonme will ya  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 12:50 PM   #24 
  - Lord I could not agree more  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 11:56 AM   #2 
  - but ,but, wouldn't that be like going to Public School,,,that just  bahrbearian   Nov-24-06 11:59 AM   #3 
  - No it woudl not  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 12:20 PM   #12 
  - I was inferring to the fact that the Rich and powerful have no ties  bahrbearian   Nov-24-06 12:28 PM   #14 
     - And one way to force them to break from that  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 12:47 PM   #22 
        - Making it mandatory for the rich and powerful to serve in the military...  tjwash   Nov-24-06 12:56 PM   #27 
           - I realize that  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 12:58 PM   #32 
  - I agree, K-12 school is national service,  SimpleTrend   Nov-24-06 04:49 PM   #64 
     - Huh? People pay good money to go to school....  CarbonDate   Nov-24-06 11:28 PM   #99 
  - What if national service were a requirement to vote or hold office?  TechBear_Seattle   Nov-24-06 12:07 PM   #5 
  - Actually given how many kids truly  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 12:19 PM   #11 
  - Where do you get the assumption that kids are spoiled anymore than they used to be  Hippo_Tron   Nov-24-06 02:14 PM   #46 
     - Yeah. Mybe it's the smell?  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 02:40 PM   #48 
     - I have served  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 09:36 PM   #86 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 09:50 PM   #88 
  - If national service were a prerequisite, the Republic Party would die  Husb2Sparkly   Nov-24-06 06:53 PM   #71 
  - No-- not the nation... thay are serving the people ffs!  BushDespiser12   Nov-24-06 12:46 PM   #21 
  - erm, corporations are usually served, not the nation.  QuestionAll...   Nov-24-06 05:42 PM   #66 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 12:03 PM   #4 
  - Yes, professors of ethics usually are.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 12:46 PM   #20 
  - Everybody with higher education is a genius!  rockymountaindem   Nov-24-06 01:00 PM   #33 
     - I'm a professor (lecturer, actually) and TN thinks I'm an idiot,  Jed Dilligan   Nov-25-06 12:26 AM   #104 
  - His mistake is in the age range. Should be 21-50 both genders.  Buck Rabbit   Nov-24-06 01:10 PM   #37 
  - I disagree.  LWolf   Nov-24-06 12:13 PM   #6 
  - Good post, LWolf. n/t  pnwmom   Nov-24-06 12:24 PM   #13 
  - Well, mandatory public education certainly results in a resistance to learning.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 12:39 PM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 12:51 PM   #25 
  - Well, golly ... as a draftee who served in Viet Nam ...  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 12:56 PM   #28 
  - See how much we're learning?  bobbolink   Nov-24-06 01:34 PM   #42 
     - Who knew TahitiNut was a Viet Nam vet? Well, I did,  DemBones DemBones   Nov-24-06 07:00 PM   #72 
        - .  bobbolink   Nov-25-06 02:27 PM   #115 
           - Whatever.  DemBones DemBones   Nov-25-06 09:33 PM   #120 
  - So if I pay these national service workers  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 12:57 PM   #29 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 12:58 PM   #31 
     - You are missing the point  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 01:01 PM   #35 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 01:15 PM   #39 
           - And we can agree to disagree  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 01:17 PM   #40 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 01:00 PM   #34 
        - If you compare this to slavery  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 01:01 PM   #36 
        - "By the way, can I buy a draftee?"  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 02:45 PM   #49 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 03:01 PM   #55 
           - Of course you would, son.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 03:55 PM   #61 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 04:23 PM   #63 
           - You've made two of the most despicably ignorant and hateful posts I've ever seen on DU.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 11:18 PM   #94 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 11:21 PM   #95 
                 - Go fuck yourself, troll.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 11:23 PM   #98 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-06 12:09 AM   #101 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 06:53 PM   #70 
              - Damn does the right wing know you are spouting their  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 09:00 PM   #77 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 09:08 PM   #81 
                    - And misrepresentation of history  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 09:18 PM   #83 
                       - "economic draft"  Sparkly   Nov-25-06 12:31 AM   #105 
           - Of course you woudl kid  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 08:57 PM   #75 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 09:03 PM   #79 
                 - Your knowledge of history  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 09:19 PM   #84 
        - And if the draftee doesn't come back from leave? To prison!!  Rabrrrrrr   Nov-24-06 05:43 PM   #67 
           - It is not  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 09:01 PM   #78 
              - Yes, and we all know how willfully ignorant I choose to be.  Rabrrrrrr   Nov-24-06 10:29 PM   #91 
                 - I actually have that knowledge  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-25-06 12:44 PM   #112 
                    - Explain, then, how a draft is NOT slavery.  Rabrrrrrr   Nov-25-06 02:15 PM   #114 
                       - I did alraedy  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-25-06 02:29 PM   #116 
                          - That's your reasoning?  Rabrrrrrr   Nov-25-06 04:50 PM   #118 
        - oh lordy massa!!!  CatWoman   Nov-24-06 09:57 PM   #90 
  - ???  LWolf   Nov-24-06 12:58 PM   #30 
  - You're a fan of Kucinich, right?  bobbolink   Nov-24-06 01:32 PM   #41 
  - I can't find any reference to mandatory service  LWolf   Nov-24-06 02:47 PM   #50 
     - You've given a very good definition of "Libertarian".  bobbolink   Nov-25-06 02:53 PM   #117 
        - I'm not a libertarian.  LWolf   Nov-25-06 05:23 PM   #119 
           - lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol  bobbolink   Nov-26-06 02:42 PM   #121 
              - You're advocating slavery?  LWolf   Nov-26-06 07:04 PM   #122 
  - Awesome points, Lwolf...n/t  Mythsaje   Nov-25-06 12:52 AM   #108 
  - Why doesn't Wagner wonder why THE REPUBLICANS haven't started a draft?  rocknation   Nov-24-06 12:13 PM   #7 
  - Garbage.  pnwmom   Nov-24-06 12:17 PM   #8 
  - Whatever stops this illegal war, do it.  shance   Nov-24-06 12:18 PM   #9 
  - If they had National Service right now, they'd be sending our kids  pnwmom   Nov-24-06 12:30 PM   #15 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 12:42 PM   #17 
  - Stupid.....  BlackVelvet04   Nov-24-06 12:18 PM   #10 
  - The best thing about the draft is the resistance to it.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-24-06 12:42 PM   #19 
  - That's one very good way of putting it. "Resistant 'citizen army'"  bobbolink   Nov-24-06 01:58 PM   #44 
  - It won't work the same way it did during Vietnam  Hippo_Tron   Nov-24-06 02:16 PM   #47 
     - Is that how you would vote?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-24-06 02:50 PM   #51 
        - But nobody here is proposing a draft to have more troops to vote  Hippo_Tron   Nov-24-06 02:54 PM   #53 
           - Well, I don't think you're in much danger of being drafted.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-24-06 03:39 PM   #57 
              - Read the posts here  Hippo_Tron   Nov-24-06 03:53 PM   #59 
  - A perfect example of hearing what you want to hear.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-24-06 12:50 PM   #23 
  - Actually, Rangel's current draft proposal DOES include service outside the military  rocknation   Nov-24-06 02:52 PM   #52 
     - I'm in my second year of national service  tofunut   Nov-24-06 03:36 PM   #56 
        - I'm in favor of Americorps, Teachfor America, and the like  Gormy Cuss   Nov-24-06 03:50 PM   #58 
        - Mandatory participation would definitely change that landscape.  tofunut   Nov-24-06 04:20 PM   #62 
        - DING DING DING! Tofunut, you're our grand prize winner!  rocknation   Nov-25-06 09:08 AM   #109 
  - Rangel is right about a LOT!! The voices that make the most sense  Kellyiswise   Nov-24-06 12:52 PM   #26 
  - With all due respect  Jcrowley   Nov-24-06 01:14 PM   #38 
  - Let them earn  PsN2Wind   Nov-24-06 01:55 PM   #43 
  - Some excellent comments here, all negative.  rolleitreks   Nov-24-06 02:13 PM   #45 
  - I think Rangel's playing the bad cop of bad good cop.  SimpleTrend   Nov-24-06 02:57 PM   #54 
  - January 7, 2003: "McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft"  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 03:53 PM   #60 
  - What the minority party does is a stunt. What the majority does is governance.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-24-06 08:40 PM   #73 
  - NS for the rich. As a pilot program, of course.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-24-06 04:54 PM   #65 
  - Thanks for posting this ......  Husb2Sparkly   Nov-24-06 06:49 PM   #68 
  - Here yuo go  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-06 09:26 PM   #85 
  - Who is Paul Wagner, and why should I give a shit what he thinks?  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-24-06 06:50 PM   #69 
  - It's the first line of my post AND the bottom line of the article linked.  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 08:53 PM   #74 
     - Let me repeat myself.  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-24-06 09:04 PM   #80 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-24-06 09:12 PM   #82 
        - I've been adamantly against sending any troops to Iraq since before the illegal invasion  TahitiNut   Nov-24-06 09:47 PM   #87 
  - I think not  Lasthorseman   Nov-24-06 08:58 PM   #76 
  - 2 years commty service for 4 years college  sandnsea   Nov-24-06 09:52 PM   #89 
  - A lot of national guard people sincerely want to help the people ...  followthemoney   Nov-24-06 10:45 PM   #92 
  - Absolutely!  The River   Nov-24-06 11:03 PM   #93 
  - Being forced to patrol the Mexican border for two years...  Eric J in MN   Nov-24-06 11:23 PM   #97 
  - People aren't slaves of the government.  Eric J in MN   Nov-24-06 11:22 PM   #96 
  - Just Who is "The Government"?  The River   Nov-25-06 12:49 AM   #106 
     - Well said  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-25-06 12:45 PM   #113 
  - I work in a field likely to be overrun by spoiled, sulky  bezdomny   Nov-25-06 12:01 AM   #100 
  - Great idea  Jed Dilligan   Nov-25-06 12:11 AM   #102 
  - Right about the need, wrong about the method...  hughee99   Nov-25-06 12:25 AM   #103 
  - That horse cadaver is starting to smell...n/t  Mythsaje   Nov-25-06 12:49 AM   #107 
  - hear, hear! nt  tomp   Nov-25-06 09:24 AM   #111 
  - Forcing people into important jobs is always a bad idea.  porphyrian   Nov-25-06 09:14 AM   #110 
 

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