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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #84
88. Here is the REAL fight...
This is a REAL abuse of power:

Race, Mental Illness, and the Death Penalty
By TChris, Section Death Penalty
Posted on Fri Nov 24, 2006 at 08:44:27 AM EST

Tommy Munford hired Guy Tobias LeGrande to kill Munford's wife. A friend of Munford's knew of the plan and supplied the murder weapon. After the deed was done, prosecutors made a deal with Munford: he could avoid life without parole by testifying against Munford in a death penalty prosecution. Munford's friend who supplied the weapon wasn't even charged.

Munford and his friend are white. LeGrande is black. He's also mentally ill. He insisted on representing himself at trial, and he did so while wearing a Superman T-shirt. Despite his mental illness, North Carolina plans to execute him on December 1.

During the crucial penalty phase of the trial, LeGrande's incoherent ramblings reached a pinnacle when he goaded the all-white jury to "Pull the damn switch and shake that groove thing." The jury sentenced him to death after only 45 minutes of deliberation.

Julian Bond writes that he's "convinced that LeGrande was condemned to death in part because his all-white jury could not muster any empathy for this mentally ill black man who had killed a white woman in their community." LeGrande's race is likely the reason that prosecutors want him to die while sparing the equally culpable white man who orchestrated the murder.


Where's the outrage? If as much time and attention were paid to something like this, maybe something could actually get done!
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  -Have you ever said anything you really regretted? madmusic  Nov-23-06 01:38 AM   #0 
  - Exposed  LeighAnn   Nov-23-06 01:41 AM   #1 
  - The "no such thing as bad publicity" is meant as "that's good publicity!"  madmusic   Nov-23-06 01:45 AM   #2 
     - That's what I mean...  LeighAnn   Nov-23-06 02:07 AM   #9 
        - Good point...  madmusic   Nov-23-06 02:12 AM   #10 
           - Nope, not gone, but I think things like this will help  LeighAnn   Nov-23-06 02:37 AM   #15 
              - Never mind he fingered the WRONG heckler...  Karenina   Nov-23-06 03:43 PM   #68 
                 - Thank you for this bit of info.  Tatiana   Nov-23-06 03:57 PM   #73 
  - When my ex was pregnant with our oldest  Mythsaje   Nov-23-06 01:45 AM   #3 
  - That story hurts just to hear it...  madmusic   Nov-23-06 01:52 AM   #5 
  - I was just sick of hearing that from her...  Mythsaje   Nov-23-06 01:59 AM   #6 
  - I don't know the guy  truedelphi   Nov-23-06 01:14 PM   #59 
  - Not that big a deal, what you said.  LeighAnn   Nov-23-06 02:12 AM   #11 
  - With her, it was a big thing...  Mythsaje   Nov-23-06 02:26 AM   #14 
     - I know what you mean...  LeighAnn   Nov-23-06 02:45 AM   #16 
        - She was truly miserable throughout most of the pregnancy...  Mythsaje   Nov-23-06 03:01 AM   #17 
  - Geez, that doesn't seem so bad.  NC_Nurse   Nov-23-06 07:14 AM   #21 
  - Yeah, and...  Leftisalwaysright   Nov-23-06 01:46 AM   #4 
  - Not even once in my life.  tmfun   Nov-23-06 02:00 AM   #7 
  - LOL  madmusic   Nov-23-06 02:05 AM   #8 
  - LOL  Vidar   Nov-23-06 05:53 AM   #18 
  - Not more than once or twice a day.  Minnesota_Lib   Nov-23-06 02:13 AM   #12 
  - Fuck no. I'm perfect. I don't make mistakes. I regret nothing.  bliss_eternal   Nov-23-06 02:18 AM   #13 
  - Good point. Yes I've put my foot in it more than once & am glad  Vidar   Nov-23-06 05:55 AM   #19 
  - The only person who has never regretted anything is George Bush.  B Calm   Nov-23-06 06:16 AM   #20 
  - The media needed someone to skewer this week.  NC_Nurse   Nov-23-06 07:21 AM   #22 
  - Happens to me all the time. On the small stuff. Once or twice on the  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-23-06 08:51 AM   #23 
  - i am curious, and this is not to judge, but for info  seabeyond   Nov-23-06 09:14 AM   #25 
     - Since you asked.  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-23-06 10:02 AM   #30 
        - that informatin was given to you on the ride, lol  seabeyond   Nov-23-06 10:25 AM   #32 
           - I remember taking a course called, "Peoples and Culture of latin  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-23-06 10:39 AM   #34 
  - my hubby and i were talking about this. he says it wouldnt have been  seabeyond   Nov-23-06 09:11 AM   #24 
  - I agree - He has racist beliefs. We ALL do...  IndyOp   Nov-23-06 09:32 AM   #27 
  - the culture of stand-up comedy is racially charged (lisa lampenelli, et al)  nashville_brook   Nov-23-06 11:41 AM   #47 
  - an amendment: so, even if Richards were a racist before this happened...  nashville_brook   Nov-23-06 11:46 AM   #49 
  - That's probably true...  madmusic   Nov-23-06 12:30 PM   #55 
     - wow -- damn cool post -- i *think* Richards would agree with you  nashville_brook   Nov-24-06 05:45 PM   #77 
        - There are 2 things that occurred...  Karenina   Nov-24-06 06:50 PM   #80 
        - Gloss over?  madmusic   Nov-24-06 07:02 PM   #83 
        - A poll on a majority white board  Karenina   Nov-24-06 07:43 PM   #84 
           - Here is the REAL fight...  madmusic   Nov-24-06 08:32 PM   #88 
              - It is the toxic smog of the thick cloud of racism  Karenina   Nov-25-06 08:22 AM   #95 
              - my fantasy: Richards vs Savage  nashville_brook   Nov-25-06 04:52 PM   #97 
                 - Michaels Richards and Irving  Karenina   Nov-25-06 06:38 PM   #100 
              - North Carolina plans to execute him on December 1  madmusic   Nov-25-06 10:06 PM   #104 
                 - Relax, put down your picket signs  madmusic   Nov-27-06 05:36 PM   #109 
        - Yeah, we've been spamming every single DU board about this  brentspeak   Nov-24-06 09:50 PM   #90 
        - Hispanic, Arab, Polynesia  Karenina   Nov-25-06 06:35 AM   #93 
        - i think our "historic free speech" values are at play with the "Kramer" flap  nashville_brook   Nov-25-06 04:34 PM   #96 
           - You have such a big heart, n_b!  Karenina   Nov-25-06 06:59 PM   #101 
              - and nancy grace...  nashville_brook   Nov-25-06 07:25 PM   #102 
        - Thanks, it is possible...  madmusic   Nov-24-06 06:57 PM   #81 
           - no such thing as talking too much :)  nashville_brook   Nov-25-06 05:20 PM   #98 
  - I do, but not angry things  itsjustme   Nov-23-06 09:24 AM   #26 
  - Sure...  InvisibleTouch   Nov-23-06 09:37 AM   #28 
  - You're not going to MARRY him, are you?  undeterred   Nov-23-06 09:41 AM   #29 
  - wrong place  Bluebear   Nov-23-06 10:41 AM   #35 
  - Are you a Sienfeld relative?  lonestarnot   Nov-23-06 10:05 AM   #31 
  - Yes: "I do." n/t  CanuckAmok   Nov-23-06 10:30 AM   #33 
  - All the time, like most people.  Jed Dilligan   Nov-23-06 10:42 AM   #36 
  - So many performers jack themselves up on coke, booze, and  elehhhhna   Nov-23-06 10:43 AM   #37 
  - Plenty, but I never "became racist" when angered. Never once. nt  Bluebear   Nov-23-06 10:43 AM   #38 
  - Exactly  Jade Fox   Nov-23-06 11:22 AM   #44 
  - I agree  Feron   Nov-24-06 08:20 PM   #85 
  - Me neither.  laundry_queen   Nov-23-06 03:40 PM   #66 
  - Ok, but when you lost your cool, were they of a different race?  Nabia2004   Nov-24-06 09:57 PM   #91 
  - I love it! It's officially impossible to be racist! According to white folks at least.  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 10:55 AM   #39 
  - I've never denied the existence of racism,  Jed Dilligan   Nov-23-06 11:09 AM   #41 
  - Nah. I've read enough racism-denial this week to last 10 years. Keep fighting..  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 11:11 AM   #42 
     - Of course everyone has a right to be however they want  Jed Dilligan   Nov-23-06 11:19 AM   #43 
     - A lot of things don't make sense to racism-deniers - no surprise there.  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 11:27 AM   #45 
     - You're not rational. Talk to me later if you want. nt  Jed Dilligan   Nov-23-06 11:30 AM   #46 
     - Doesn't make sense to you?  laundry_queen   Nov-23-06 03:42 PM   #67 
        - It's a certainty she/he knows at least one.  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 04:16 PM   #75 
        - Yes, I know there are racists in America.  Jed Dilligan   Nov-25-06 12:15 AM   #92 
     - "Accusing" a white person of racism in Amurikkka  Karenina   Nov-23-06 01:31 PM   #61 
  - "It's officially impossible to be racist!"  madmusic   Nov-23-06 11:57 AM   #51 
  - Quote where I said it was a quote. What fun games DUers play!  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 12:01 PM   #53 
     - Didn't think you could....  madmusic   Nov-23-06 12:32 PM   #56 
  - Are there black racists too?  B Calm   Nov-23-06 01:21 PM   #60 
  - Two questions..  Karenina   Nov-23-06 01:55 PM   #63 
     - No, no, no - let him go - it's really a beautiful viewpoint...  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 03:31 PM   #65 
     - If you want a real hoot  Karenina   Nov-23-06 03:52 PM   #70 
     - BWAHAAHAHAAA!!!!! thanks!  BlooInBloo   Nov-23-06 04:14 PM   #74 
     - Brilliant post, as always.  kiahzero   Nov-27-06 06:46 PM   #113 
     - so all 'white people' are the same?  zreosumgame   Nov-27-06 06:29 PM   #112 
  - This white chick  flying_monkeys   Nov-25-06 10:55 PM   #107 
  - The things that come out of people's mouths at the scene of a car accident  undeterred   Nov-23-06 11:03 AM   #40 
  - this is a good comparison -- richards was crashing/bombing  nashville_brook   Nov-23-06 11:45 AM   #48 
  - Oh yes! The Worst Thing I Ever Said Was To My Father.  NNadir   Nov-23-06 11:53 AM   #50 
  - Another sad story...  madmusic   Nov-23-06 11:59 AM   #52 
  - NNadir  auntAgonist   Nov-23-06 01:06 PM   #58 
  - i think the dark side is there for everyone.  mopinko   Nov-23-06 12:04 PM   #54 
  - Yes, everyone has a dark side...  madmusic   Nov-23-06 12:53 PM   #57 
  - Track record should be considered before labling someone a racist  guruoo   Nov-23-06 01:44 PM   #62 
  - No, no, no....  flying_monkeys   Nov-25-06 10:52 PM   #106 
  - Well, I regret saying to my husband that I wish his mother was dead.  QMPMom   Nov-23-06 01:59 PM   #64 
  - Good lord yes.  Rex   Nov-23-06 03:44 PM   #69 
  - Strangely enough, in spite of the massive vehemence  StephenB48   Nov-23-06 03:53 PM   #71 
  - Yes, when I said "I Do" with my first husband!  williesgirl   Nov-23-06 03:54 PM   #72 
  - WHAT THE HELL WERE WE THINKING???  Karenina   Nov-23-06 04:53 PM   #76 
  - Of course I've said things I regret. Who hasn't?  LWolf   Nov-24-06 06:09 PM   #78 
  - I've never used racial epithets against anyone.  Sparkly   Nov-24-06 06:11 PM   #79 
  - "Oh, she's at bet 5.5 out of 10."  bigriver   Nov-24-06 06:58 PM   #82 
  - Yes! The oath I took the oath when I joined the marines.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-24-06 08:25 PM   #86 
  - Well Once  brettdale   Nov-24-06 08:27 PM   #87 
  - I regret the results of some things I have said  Generic Brad   Nov-24-06 08:42 PM   #89 
  - After Shrub was crowned in 2000, I said something like,  Vinca   Nov-25-06 07:44 AM   #94 
  - My (black) parents said they still love "Kramer" and that he's not racist  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-25-06 05:36 PM   #99 
  - Yes - but it's further and further in the past...  TankLV   Nov-25-06 07:50 PM   #103 
  - yes - about 25 years ago  AtomicKitten   Nov-25-06 10:42 PM   #105 
  - Only racists who oppress and damage others count?  flying_monkeys   Nov-25-06 10:59 PM   #108 
  - I swore in front of my mother, I DO (1st time) and something...  Clinton Crusader   Nov-27-06 05:46 PM   #110 
  - Did anyone else LISTEN to Richards'  Karenina   Nov-27-06 06:21 PM   #111 

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