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Wed Nov-22-06 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #84 |
| 86. Of course s/he doesn't. |
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Who knows what bug is up his/her butt but it has nothing to do with reality.
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| -About that so-called "horrible" Kerry campaign |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 02:24 PM |
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he lost |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:25 PM |
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Only two words you need n/t |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:26 PM |
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He did answer - media wouldn't air his counterattacks on swifts. |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:29 PM |
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he chose not to answer until it was too late |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:32 PM |
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here's documented...and I think you forget about the outing of NJ governor that |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:37 PM |
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faxing letters |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:40 PM |
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It wasn't faxing letters! |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 02:42 PM |
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no paid media |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:45 PM |
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Are you actually reading the information? There was paid media! n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 02:46 PM |
#44 |
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paid media |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:49 PM |
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There were TV commercials! n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:08 PM |
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Kerry scheduled a speech at the Firefighters where he ATTACKED swifts and Bush for an hour |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:44 PM |
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no paid media |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:46 PM |
#42 |
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Read the research - there WERE ads aired - and Cleland even went to Crawford and |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:49 PM |
#49 |
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there was no paid media until way past a week of the ads hitting |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:51 PM |
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In 1992 media climate - 2004 corpmedia is almost all RW and the left machine |
blm |
Nov-22-06 03:15 PM |
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the country is divided to the point right now |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 04:09 PM |
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The DNC had the same tired spokespeople only schooled in defending Clinton for 12yrrs |
blm |
Nov-22-06 07:23 PM |
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Clinton |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 07:35 PM |
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If the DNC had not hung on to Clinton-era targetted state strategy, the election process |
blm |
Nov-22-06 08:05 PM |
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sorry |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 08:12 PM |
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Shrum had NO MACHINE to tap into the way RW message machine performed. How |
blm |
Nov-22-06 08:18 PM |
#137 |
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Clinton won the pr battle during impeachment |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 08:20 PM |
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And then his numbers tanked after majority of people BELIEVED BushInc's lie that |
blm |
Nov-22-06 08:23 PM |
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his numbers stayed pretty steady |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 08:28 PM |
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The DNC didn't COUNTER the RNC - why you believe that the DNc's 4yrs of groundwork |
blm |
Nov-22-06 08:40 PM |
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no I don't |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 08:45 PM |
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Shrum wasn't perfect - but the votes were lost at the state and county levels where there |
blm |
Nov-22-06 08:55 PM |
#145 |
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the votes were lost at that level |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 09:03 PM |
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The DNC had no party infrastructure IN THOSE STATES to support the campaign! |
blm |
Nov-22-06 09:09 PM |
#149 |
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this is a copout |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 09:15 PM |
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That infrastructure was further collapsed since 2000 - ask the workers in Ohio |
blm |
Nov-22-06 09:19 PM |
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that may be the case |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 09:32 PM |
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Turnout wasn't the problem - securing the process and counting the votes earned WAS. |
blm |
Nov-24-06 10:49 AM |
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why did Shrum lose all those other races |
DaveinMD |
Nov-24-06 07:31 PM |
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You are very gullible to be taken in so badly by the MSM noise machine. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Nov-22-06 02:45 PM |
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But it was Kerry's choice to take or not take than advice, right? |
elocs |
Nov-22-06 04:16 PM |
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I agree |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 08:50 PM |
#144 |
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Nope, he didn't run ads saying that Bush was a draft dodging chickenhawk |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-22-06 03:57 PM |
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There's a thing we call "buying media time" |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-22-06 04:45 PM |
#110 |
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But his concession speech was a mismash of |
truedelphi |
Nov-22-06 05:48 PM |
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The point of the OP was that it was a very close loss |
beachmom |
Nov-22-06 02:30 PM |
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close doesn't count |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:31 PM |
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It does, however, in stealing them. nt |
NCevilDUer |
Nov-22-06 02:34 PM |
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if he ran a good campaign |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:35 PM |
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I am certain that Dean's DNC would have had vote results that MATCHED exit polls |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:46 PM |
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he lost |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:34 PM |
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It was stolen. |
babylonsister |
Nov-22-06 02:41 PM |
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Wouldn't have been if Kerry had been 5-10 points ahead of Bush |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-22-06 04:01 PM |
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the OP makes it sound like all incumbent Presidents have been re-elected |
hfojvt |
Nov-22-06 03:09 PM |
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Narrowest margin ever: To a chimp |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-22-06 04:47 PM |
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Where were you at? He did answer back. |
wisteria |
Nov-22-06 02:38 PM |
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Shrum |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:42 PM |
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Kerry hasn't learned a thing.. |
Tellurian |
Nov-22-06 02:42 PM |
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Have other candidates learned something that Kerry hasn't? |
politicasista |
Nov-22-06 02:52 PM |
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Oh. I guess, you haven't been paying attention.. |
Tellurian |
Nov-22-06 06:16 PM |
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Have they spoken about election fraud or election reform |
politicasista |
Nov-22-06 11:36 PM |
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So says the repeated inside Washington Bullsh*t, that for some reason |
wisteria |
Nov-22-06 02:59 PM |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 03:49 PM |
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You agree with anyone |
politicasista |
Nov-22-06 03:55 PM |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 04:02 PM |
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No, I don't assume that |
politicasista |
Nov-22-06 04:16 PM |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 04:21 PM |
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I try not to get involved in these Kerry threads, |
seasonedblue |
Nov-22-06 04:48 PM |
#112 |
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thank you, mam |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 04:55 PM |
#113 |
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Why do you persist in attacking AK? |
Tellurian |
Nov-22-06 06:34 PM |
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I was defending AK |
seasonedblue |
Nov-22-06 07:38 PM |
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Ah, hats off to you then, seasonedblue.. |
Tellurian |
Nov-22-06 07:46 PM |
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ROFLMAO |
seasonedblue |
Nov-22-06 07:49 PM |
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And yet they attract you and your "repetitive nonsense." n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 08:58 PM |
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Oh, oh, you went off script.. ProSense |
Tellurian |
Nov-22-06 10:02 PM |
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It's prejudice plain and simple. |
_dynamicdems |
Nov-23-06 02:22 AM |
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In Ohio thanks to Blackwell |
LSK |
Nov-22-06 02:51 PM |
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he lost the popular vote |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 06:05 PM |
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No, Bush/Cheney/Rove stole it. |
garthranzz |
Nov-22-06 03:36 PM |
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why didn't they steal this one |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 06:05 PM |
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True, he lost. And there were good moments and bad ones |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-22-06 03:39 PM |
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okay |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 06:06 PM |
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10 years ago he won one. But I bring up Carville because I didn't appreciate him |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-22-06 06:20 PM |
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that's fine |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 06:52 PM |
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Kerry won by a considerable margin, about 3% probably. |
Stevepol |
Nov-22-06 09:20 PM |
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Winning all three debates decisively is not horrible - and if the campaign was |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:27 PM |
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he lost |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:29 PM |
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The weakass DNC let the strongarm RNC steal it. Kerry beat Bush in every matchup. |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:30 PM |
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they did the same things they all always do |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:33 PM |
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Kerry said what EVERY LAWMAKER does - they vote for then against EVERY bill |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:43 PM |
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it sounded stupid |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:48 PM |
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So you advocate treating people as STUPID as Rove does - postKatrina people aren't buying |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:52 PM |
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I advocate |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:53 PM |
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Seemed like he had an abundance... |
neoblues |
Nov-22-06 02:58 PM |
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Bush never did his own attacking - the RNC handled it almost exclusively. |
blm |
Nov-22-06 03:10 PM |
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he lost |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:33 PM |
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You've made your point. Explain how any of these other candidates |
beachmom |
Nov-22-06 02:40 PM |
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Not my problem |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:43 PM |
#33 |
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simple |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 02:43 PM |
#34 |
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It was stolen. |
babylonsister |
Nov-22-06 02:41 PM |
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And he *knew* that, yet still conceded. With $3,000,000 left in his warchest |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:45 PM |
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Okay, which is it he lost or it was stolen, or |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 02:48 PM |
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OK...one more time -- the point is RESULTS |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:53 PM |
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Senator Kerry did the right thing by conceding. |
_dynamicdems |
Nov-23-06 02:18 AM |
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Bush had to do that because of his own failures |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-22-06 04:04 PM |
#100 |
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1) it shouldn't have been close enough to steal; 2) he didn't contest; 3) why rehash this again? |
greeneyedboy |
Nov-22-06 02:29 PM |
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Cause people think that the media will go easy on anyone |
politicasista |
Nov-22-06 02:35 PM |
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You have forgotten the atmosphere of 2004 |
beachmom |
Nov-22-06 02:37 PM |
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Kerry let Bush define him as a flip-flopper and failed to respond effectively. |
David Dunham |
Nov-22-06 02:30 PM |
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Clinton let GOP impeach him and failed to respond effectively....because |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:39 PM |
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All elections tag those campaigning with something or other. |
wisteria |
Nov-22-06 02:45 PM |
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This is a bad thread |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-22-06 02:33 PM |
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Only to the people who will have to keep repeating |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 02:36 PM |
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"The campaign record speaks for itself!" |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:42 PM |
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LOL! |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 02:43 PM |
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Not frantic, just astounded at the steepness of your learning curve. |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:47 PM |
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So, it doesn't mean he was bad, it means he lost to a war time President |
wisteria |
Nov-22-06 02:50 PM |
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Oh please stop with the "war time" bullshit |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:57 PM |
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Frantic! n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:03 PM |
#68 |
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Clueless! n/t |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:08 PM |
#73 |
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Have it your way! n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:09 PM |
#75 |
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I will! n/t |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:11 PM |
#78 |
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You should ask for this to be locked |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-22-06 02:58 PM |
#61 |
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With all due respect, |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:07 PM |
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I was rooting for Kerry - but he just didn't fight back |
derby378 |
Nov-22-06 02:46 PM |
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Those pics make it mighter hard to believe Kerry lost. |
Old and In the Way |
Nov-22-06 02:47 PM |
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if any of that were based on reality then it could be considered but GIGO as they say |
bullimiami |
Nov-22-06 02:49 PM |
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Not really what happened! |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:00 PM |
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conceding the very next day when it was obvious they stole it sucked in my book. |
bullimiami |
Nov-22-06 09:41 PM |
#159 |
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Kerry ran a horrible campaign. He lost to the stupidest man |
bowens43 |
Nov-22-06 02:55 PM |
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Who do you consider a real candidate besides McCain? n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:02 PM |
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Oh, says who? You! Please, Kerry could debate McCain under a |
wisteria |
Nov-22-06 03:05 PM |
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Those pictures and numbers are amazing. he may of lost, but |
wisteria |
Nov-22-06 02:56 PM |
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They are amazing. One huge "NOT BUSH" rally |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 02:59 PM |
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I don't believe for a minute that he "lost" |
dailykoff |
Nov-22-06 03:00 PM |
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It was more like a forfeit |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:07 PM |
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What on earth are you talking about? |
dailykoff |
Nov-22-06 03:12 PM |
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It's called "honor" |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:13 PM |
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And he did the honorable thing |
dailykoff |
Nov-22-06 03:17 PM |
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Waiting on "Mr. and Mrs. Missouri" to approve his battles is Kerry's problem |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:22 PM |
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"never seemed quite willing to go to the mat for what he believed." |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:28 PM |
#84 |
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Of course s/he doesn't. |
dailykoff |
Nov-22-06 03:30 PM |
#86 |
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Really? |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:41 PM |
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Right, and I'm sure you had your purple band-aid on. |
dailykoff |
Nov-22-06 03:45 PM |
#92 |
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That's crap and you know it |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 04:28 PM |
#109 |
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More facts: |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:52 PM |
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I didn't until 2004 |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 03:34 PM |
#88 |
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Welcome to politics. |
dailykoff |
Nov-22-06 03:28 PM |
#85 |
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the people arguing are not arguing on fact, or intelligence, or |
seabeyond |
Nov-22-06 03:08 PM |
#72 |
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Kerry is an honorable man |
DaveinMD |
Nov-22-06 04:11 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-22-06 03:09 PM |
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Forgot one |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-22-06 03:31 PM |
#87 |
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ONLY BECAUSE OF GORE AND HE WAS RUNNING AGAINST |
pansypoo53219 |
Nov-22-06 03:57 PM |
#96 |
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"georgie threw those debates on purpose" |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 03:59 PM |
#97 |
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His campaign was poorly run. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-22-06 04:10 PM |
#102 |
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Check the editing room of the corporate media n/t |
politicasista |
Nov-22-06 04:12 PM |
#104 |
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KERRY WON! NOT "NARROW VICTORY FOR W" but a steal. |
The Count |
Nov-22-06 04:13 PM |
#105 |
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Kerry at 7% in latest CNN poll |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 05:21 PM |
#114 |
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Point? |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 05:26 PM |
#115 |
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let me walk you through it |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 05:33 PM |
#116 |
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"You guys aren't this dumb." |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 05:38 PM |
#117 |
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Who the fuck is Richardson? |
jgraz |
Nov-22-06 05:43 PM |
#118 |
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Sorry, I did mistake you for someone else, but |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 05:56 PM |
#120 |
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According to that poll... |
_dynamicdems |
Nov-23-06 01:09 AM |
#165 |
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it was the "so very well timed" Bin Laden tape that did Kerry in |
AZDemDist6 |
Nov-22-06 06:32 PM |
#126 |
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That is a myth. Kerry ran a great campaign and attracted LARGE |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-22-06 06:51 PM |
#128 |
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Well I was one of those 59 million votes, and I did it even though it stunk to do so. |
mondo joe |
Nov-22-06 08:22 PM |
#139 |
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And then there were those of us PROUD to finally vote for an anti-corruption, |
blm |
Nov-22-06 08:58 PM |
#147 |
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Like I said - not every vote meant the same thing. |
mondo joe |
Nov-22-06 09:13 PM |
#150 |
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Not really! |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 09:17 PM |
#152 |
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I said "most". |
mondo joe |
Nov-22-06 09:18 PM |
#153 |
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Except REAL patriots prefer anti-corruption, open government Democrats while |
blm |
Nov-22-06 09:22 PM |
#156 |
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He got my vote. |
mondo joe |
Nov-22-06 09:28 PM |
#157 |
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Thanks for posting this. |
Unbowed |
Nov-23-06 12:08 AM |
#162 |
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Very nice comment. Thanks! |
ProSense |
Nov-23-06 12:47 AM |
#163 |
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Thank you, you made my night. "Cheese for the rats", I like it. |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:49 AM |
#164 |
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Well said. |
bleever |
Nov-23-06 02:09 PM |
#169 |
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Before and after convention |
ProSense |
Nov-23-06 12:05 PM |
#168 |
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yeah, great campaign |
leftofthedial |
Nov-24-06 10:54 AM |
#171 |
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Sometimes thing are not always what they seem! |
ProSense |
Nov-24-06 11:45 AM |
#173 |
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That and 3.50 gets you a latte at Starbucks. |
bigriver |
Nov-24-06 11:32 AM |
#172 |
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