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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:03 AM
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4. that's the same problem Gore had
They baited him into using a strength to be a weakness. They played to his gentlemanly side and then sucker punched him. "Be statesmanlike!" they jeered. "Go along to save your electability for another day!"

Gore and Kerry, both. Snookered by thugs.
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  -Late night/early morning epiphany regarding Dems who are irritated with Kerry Truth Hurts A Lot  Nov-22-06 12:58 AM   #0 
  - off subject...  Kiouni   Nov-22-06 01:00 AM   #1 
  - He wanted to run for President  karynnj   Nov-22-06 11:36 AM   #42 
  - Problem is, the best person to run for president isn't the best person to BE president  LittleClarkie   Nov-22-06 01:02 AM   #2 
  - that's an interesting point  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-22-06 01:19 AM   #9 
     - He could use a shitkicker in his campaign,  dailykoff   Nov-22-06 09:12 AM   #38 
     - He needed a 50 state strategy from DNC - any nominee would. The targetted state strategy  blm   Nov-22-06 02:17 PM   #66 
     - If the corpmedia had ALLOWED his counterattacks to be seen as widely as they  blm   Nov-22-06 02:15 PM   #65 
  - That. And he lost.  liberalpragmatist   Nov-22-06 01:02 AM   #3 
  - Precisely  Vulture   Nov-22-06 01:56 AM   #13 
  - Horsefeathers!  bananas   Nov-22-06 02:30 AM   #17 
     - Also, Nixon had a very negative image as nasty - which is not  karynnj   Nov-22-06 11:41 AM   #43 
        - Nixon also was helped by circumstances  liberalpragmatist   Nov-22-06 07:58 PM   #79 
  - that's the same problem Gore had  grasswire   Nov-22-06 01:03 AM   #4 
  - You nailed it, grasswire.  mykpart   Nov-22-06 01:13 AM   #7 
     - Mild mannered - who fights the MAFIA, Nixon, Reagan and Bush1  karynnj   Nov-22-06 11:47 AM   #45 
  - What's the difference between acting like a pussy and BEING a pussy?  XemaSab   Nov-22-06 01:06 AM   #5 
  - Having one?  Cerridwen   Nov-22-06 10:45 AM   #40 
  - I think the ugliness has gotten worse. It's a sad day when a man  babylonsister   Nov-22-06 01:06 AM   #6 
  - I do think Kerry could have been the next JFK but our society  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-22-06 01:13 AM   #8 
     - The Thuggery is invested in morphing thoughtfulness into indecision.  sfexpat2000   Nov-22-06 02:02 AM   #14 
  - Kerry's remarks the week before the election made me so mad that I didn't vote for him this year  bluestateguy   Nov-22-06 01:19 AM   #10 
  - You do know that he wasn't running for anything this year  Hippo_Tron   Nov-22-06 05:59 AM   #27 
  - LOL. n/t  wisteria   Nov-22-06 08:49 AM   #31 
  - Terrible campaigners make terrible presidents  jgraz   Nov-22-06 01:36 AM   #11 
  - Name a terrible campaigner who managed to become president, and turned out to be terrible  LittleClarkie   Nov-22-06 02:17 AM   #15 
  - That would be Jimmy Carter  jgraz   Nov-22-06 02:30 AM   #16 
     - And you think he was a lousy president?  LittleClarkie   Nov-22-06 02:41 AM   #19 
        - Yeah, there's more to being president than just being a good guy  jgraz   Nov-22-06 02:57 AM   #20 
           - Carter was a great leader, he just wasn't willing to do what was popular  Hippo_Tron   Nov-22-06 06:02 AM   #28 
              - Why wasn't it popular? Because Carter couldn't win the debate  jgraz   Nov-22-06 01:27 PM   #59 
  - He was not and nor is he a terrible campaigner.  wisteria   Nov-22-06 09:01 AM   #33 
     - "repeating what the DC insiders want you to believe"  jgraz   Nov-22-06 12:07 PM   #47 
        - Perhaps, but you parrot a lot of the misleading talking points echoed  wisteria   Nov-22-06 01:05 PM   #55 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-22-06 01:18 PM   #58 
              - Nonsense! He won the primaries!  ProSense   Nov-22-06 01:56 PM   #62 
                 - OMFG -- now we're into a whole new level of denial  jgraz   Nov-22-06 02:09 PM   #63 
                    - OMFG! How many feel better that Bush is in the WH? n/t  ProSense   Nov-22-06 02:25 PM   #68 
                       - Bored now...  jgraz   Nov-22-06 02:28 PM   #69 
  - I wonder how many regret not voting for Kerry?  Old and In the Way   Nov-22-06 01:55 AM   #12 
  - To answer your question.....thousands upon thousands.  LeahD   Nov-22-06 02:38 AM   #18 
  - if Kerry backed down then he wouldn't be considering running again  JI7   Nov-22-06 03:10 AM   #21 
  - We need to put Randi Rhodes' mind and spirit into Kerry's body.  Rageneau   Nov-22-06 04:41 AM   #22 
  - really?  President Jesus   Nov-22-06 05:19 AM   #23 
  - As a long time..  sendero   Nov-22-06 05:36 AM   #24 
  - Agreed, Kerry picked clueless advisors in 2004  Hippo_Tron   Nov-22-06 05:58 AM   #26 
     - He also had Carville, Lockhart and McMurray, who were looking out  wisteria   Nov-22-06 09:09 AM   #36 
        - Carville didn't work on his campaign...  Hippo_Tron   Nov-22-06 03:45 PM   #71 
  - Kerry's problem is that most Americans view him in the way that the media portrays him  Hippo_Tron   Nov-22-06 05:55 AM   #25 
  - Good PR and a little time can change "what some American's" think.  wisteria   Nov-22-06 09:05 AM   #35 
  - Sorry, I have to disagree  tpsbmam   Nov-22-06 07:49 AM   #29 
  - great food for thought  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-22-06 09:04 AM   #34 
  - How about someone who was in office at the time,  LWolf   Nov-22-06 04:30 PM   #75 
  - "name me one major piece of legislation that he authored"  ProSense   Nov-22-06 10:32 AM   #39 
  - Not to mention that he probably would have authored more bills  LittleClarkie   Nov-22-06 02:12 PM   #64 
  - The inspectors went in AFTER the IWR and BECAUSE of the IWR - your timeline is off.  blm   Nov-22-06 01:08 PM   #56 
  - He came right back at them after they twisted his words this time.  wisteria   Nov-22-06 08:47 AM   #30 
  - I'm trying to get to the "WHY"--why are some Dems against him  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-22-06 09:10 AM   #37 
     - BCCI  karynnj   Nov-22-06 12:08 PM   #48 
        - You put your finger on it: uncorruptible.  dailykoff   Nov-22-06 12:13 PM   #49 
           - I wish Shrum wouldn't have considered all that too complex for the campaign  LittleClarkie   Nov-22-06 02:22 PM   #67 
              - Yeah they definitely ran center  dailykoff   Nov-22-06 04:01 PM   #73 
  - except the last two years the only one to rival kerry going after  seabeyond   Nov-22-06 08:53 AM   #32 
  - I think you mistake good manners for giving in  karynnj   Nov-22-06 11:33 AM   #41 
  - he is not a good speaker  jpwhite   Nov-22-06 11:42 AM   #44 
  - "We need a charismatic leader...At least George W. Bush has some spunk."  ProSense   Nov-22-06 11:57 AM   #46 
  - Go immediately to  karynnj   Nov-22-06 12:13 PM   #50 
  - It's opinions like this that get us the government we have.  Old and In the Way   Nov-22-06 01:04 PM   #54 
  - He isn't articulate and he has the worst body language of any politician...  originalpckelly   Nov-22-06 12:14 PM   #51 
  - He isn't articulate? Not my impression at all. nt  babylonsister   Nov-22-06 12:25 PM   #52 
  - I reject the premise of either being pro-Kerry or anti-Kerry.  elocs   Nov-22-06 12:54 PM   #53 
  - Good for you!  ProSense   Nov-22-06 01:11 PM   #57 
  - It may not be as much as "who said", but it is the implication.  elocs   Nov-22-06 03:56 PM   #72 
  - It's not that so much if you prefer someone else.  LittleClarkie   Nov-22-06 02:28 PM   #70 
  - HE WAS EXCELLENT but didn't PROTEST the election as LOUDLY  NoBushSpokenHere   Nov-22-06 01:33 PM   #60 
  - Kerry seems to be the (potential) candidate the right goes after the most.  kerstin   Nov-22-06 01:41 PM   #61 
  -  LWolf   Nov-22-06 04:27 PM   #74 
  - It has nothing to do with him being too nice  dansolo   Nov-22-06 04:34 PM   #76 
  - Kerry 's positions come very firmly from his believes  karynnj   Nov-22-06 05:49 PM   #77 
  - Not even close  sampsonblk   Nov-22-06 05:58 PM   #78 

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