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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:02 PM
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109. See my post #95 above
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 09:03 PM by Tom Rinaldo
I think what some people don't seem capable of recognizing is just how bad things truly can become if Iraq is left to chance to devolve on it's own with no interest in seeing if any positive leverage in the region can still be brought to bear to prevent a total worst case scenario.

There is no peace treaty in Korea, just an "armistice", guns still are pointed at each side across the border, but the massive killing stopped. Was that a "solution"? Depends on how you look at it I guess.

Iran and Syria have significant influence inside Iraq, currently they are working against any backing down of tensions inside Iraq. But don't assume that rational thinking will prevail and they will keep themselves out of a larger war, or that irrational thinking will confine itself to inside of Iraq's borders, once things begin slipping past the absolute point of no return.

It may get there no matter what anyone in this Administration or the next one does. Clark, unlike the Republican Chickenhawks, does not want to waste American lives for no good and important end, and unlike them he doesn't feel corporate profits and slightly cheaper oil is a worthwhile end worthy of sending our men and women off to death for. If there is no realistic chance left for preventing a true disaster by keeping some of America's military inside Iraq temporarily while we start our withdrawal, he's out of there.

I recorded Clark making this statement in New Hampshire last month:

"I don't think without a strategy to win we ought to be asking one more American soldier to die in Iraq, and that's the way I feel about it."

Be mindful that Clark thinks we can't win a military war inside Iraq, he thinks any solution there has to involve a negotiated regional political settlement, and "winning" anything at this point to him means not having Iraq spin out into full scale unrestrained civil war that spills over into a greater regional war involving further millions of people.

But the thing is Bush still controls the Presidency, and very few Democrats actually advocate for Congress cutting off all funds for troops in Iraq. Clark has been as effective as anyone in the Democratic Party at applying pressure on the Bush administration to get rid of Rumsfeld and open up talks with Iran and Syria.

Meanwhile Clark has, in my opinion, been the leading national Democrat warning against a drift into war with Iran, for at least two years now.
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