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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:28 PM
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94. That's what it means to be Pro-Choice; the right to do something you might not do yourself
It's wrong to replace "Pro Choice" with "Pro Life, But..." because the Pro Life Movement waged a domestic terrorism campaign of bombings, harrassment and assassinations against women's clinics, staff, doctors, patients and bystanders.

If people want to come up with a new slogan, let it NOT be one that has such a vicious, bloody history.
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  -"I'm pro-choice, but abortion should only take place if the mothers life is in danger" SemiCharmedQuark  Nov-20-06 01:33 PM   #0 
  - I would start at the NARAL site.  niyad   Nov-20-06 01:37 PM   #1 
  - I think that every woman has the right to an abortion...but again  movonne   Nov-20-06 01:40 PM   #2 
  - My impression is that the "opposite" phenomenon is more common.  Skinner   Nov-20-06 01:41 PM   #3 
  - That's called being Pro-Choice  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 01:49 PM   #17 
  - Yeah, I know.  Skinner   Nov-20-06 01:51 PM   #20 
     - How do ya get THEM to understand that?  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 03:23 PM   #91 
  - I don't see the conflict in the "I'm pro-life, but..." argument.  hughee99   Nov-20-06 02:11 PM   #39 
  - That's what it means to be Pro-Choice; the right to do something you might not do yourself  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 03:28 PM   #94 
  - I really do not like the term "pro-life," it implies that the rest of us  question everything   Nov-20-06 02:23 PM   #48 
     - "Choice" as in "Freedom of _____," the Freedom to Choose. Freedom visceral enough?  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 03:29 PM   #95 
        - Ah. But we don't use the word freedom  question everything   Nov-20-06 04:59 PM   #129 
           - People know what "Pro Choice" really means just like they know what "Pro Life"really means  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 05:10 PM   #131 
  - Legal, Safe--AND RARE  librechik   Nov-20-06 01:41 PM   #4 
  - Why rare?  PistolSteve   Nov-20-06 01:44 PM   #13 
  - Beat Me To It  REP   Nov-20-06 01:49 PM   #18 
  - me, too. I literally cringe every time I see the word rare used  Iris   Nov-20-06 02:08 PM   #36 
  - "Rarely necessary" might be a better term.  kestrel91316   Nov-20-06 02:48 PM   #64 
     - No. Not better at all. Because who's going to decide which  Iris   Nov-20-06 02:55 PM   #74 
        - I Read It As "Rarely Necessary, Like Root Canals"  REP   Nov-20-06 03:00 PM   #78 
        - I'm still uncomfortable with even the hint of the idea that there  Iris   Nov-20-06 03:06 PM   #82 
        - THEY SHOULD NOT BE RARE!!!!!  novalib   Nov-20-06 03:49 PM   #105 
        - Exactly! If one is OK, why is two not OK? n/t  CTyankee   Nov-20-06 04:26 PM   #118 
  - "Rare" is a sop to hypocrisy, IMHO.  CTyankee   Nov-20-06 04:24 PM   #117 
  - I think when people use the term "rare," they mean that they  Clark2008   Nov-20-06 02:39 PM   #59 
  - Rare because it is an invasive procedure?  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-20-06 02:55 PM   #73 
  - exactly--abortion is hard on the woman physically, and if she had early options  librechik   Nov-20-06 04:42 PM   #124 
  - Because in certainly a portion of the cases,  Perky   Nov-20-06 04:17 PM   #114 
  - "A MATTER OF CONVENIENCE"????!!!!! WTF???!!!!  novalib   Nov-20-06 04:28 PM   #120 
  - And in instances in which it it not for life or health?  Perky   Nov-20-06 04:53 PM   #127 
     - It is ALWAYS Life or Health!!!!!!  novalib   Nov-20-06 08:38 PM   #141 
        - By that logic all women should always have abortion  Perky   Nov-20-06 10:10 PM   # 
        - By that logic all women should always have abortion  Perky   Nov-20-06 10:10 PM   #154 
        - By that logic all women should always have abortion  Perky   Nov-20-06 10:10 PM   #155 
  - You are confusing (total strangers') personal opinion with individual rights  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 04:53 PM   #128 
  - Rare because they don't need to happen nearly so often  JerseygirlCT   Nov-20-06 08:45 PM   #144 
  - Abortion is a surgical procedure, and as such is a risk to a womans health.  Xithras   Nov-20-06 09:20 PM   #147 
  - Safe, Legal and None Of Your Business  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 03:30 PM   #96 
     - Here! Here!  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 03:38 PM   #100 
     - Here Here Ya Go!  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 03:44 PM   #104 
        - Excellent Post!  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 04:01 PM   #107 
           - :yes:  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 04:03 PM   #108 
              - I'll Have One, Too!  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 04:14 PM   #113 
     - I'll second that.  impeachdubya   Nov-20-06 04:04 PM   #109 
     - Mind Your Own WHO?! Damn Bizness!!  omega minimo   Nov-20-06 04:06 PM   #110 
     - this is indeed better than "rare" n/t  librechik   Nov-20-06 04:35 PM   #121 
     - That's it! n/t  Dora   Nov-20-06 04:42 PM   #125 
     - yes.  FLDem5   Nov-20-06 08:40 PM   #142 
  - Assuming that you're pro-choice ...  Jim__   Nov-20-06 01:41 PM   #5 
  - The combination of my love for the founding ideas of the U.S.A.and the fact  greyhound1966   Nov-20-06 02:01 PM   #26 
  - Unfortunately, the rightwing has, as it always does, won the language war  Rabrrrrrr   Nov-20-06 01:41 PM   #6 
  - First off  blogslut   Nov-20-06 01:41 PM   #7 
  - Absolutely. That was driven home to me when my daughter  CTyankee   Nov-20-06 04:35 PM   #122 
  - Choice refers to the mother's choice...  Cassandra   Nov-20-06 01:41 PM   #8 
  - Can I ask the age of your audience? I'm wondering if  babylonsister   Nov-20-06 01:42 PM   #9 
  - We are all 18-23, with one exception.  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-20-06 02:04 PM   #29 
  - Ask them why?  PistolSteve   Nov-20-06 01:43 PM   #10 
  - Carl Sagan had some thoughts on the subject.  Fridays Child   Nov-20-06 01:43 PM   #11 
  - Some Basics:  REP   Nov-20-06 01:44 PM   #12 
  - Well done...  PistolSteve   Nov-20-06 01:46 PM   #14 
  - From what I understand  laundry_queen   Nov-20-06 04:21 PM   #115 
  - Hydatiform moles are people, too.  kestrel91316   Nov-20-06 02:51 PM   #69 
  - One of the central issues is timing...  whoneedstickets   Nov-20-06 01:46 PM   #15 
  - I don't see what's wrong with this...  BlooInBloo   Nov-20-06 01:47 PM   #16 
  - I suppose I thought that "pro-choice" meant that it wasn't the buisness  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-20-06 02:05 PM   #31 
  - I'll bite the bullet: I only support abortion only in cases of rape, incest, or medical emergency...  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 01:50 PM   #19 
  - I'll Keep Saying It ...There Will Always Be a Need  REP   Nov-20-06 01:57 PM   #23 
  - You didn't read my post very carefully, so I won't bother responding. n/t  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:02 PM   #28 
     - Ah. Can't Answer. I Understand.  REP   Nov-20-06 02:05 PM   #32 
        - Funny, I was able to respond to gollygee. Must be a problem on your end. n/t  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:12 PM   #40 
           - Funny That ... You Responded In The Wrong Place. Cute!  REP   Nov-20-06 02:24 PM   #50 
  - Dupe Post  REP   Nov-20-06 01:57 PM   #25 
  - I *personally* wouldn't have an abortion except for in a case like that  gollygee   Nov-20-06 02:04 PM   #30 
     - And as I already said, there must be a solid support system or else no abortion ban.  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:11 PM   #38 
        - I don't think the male pill is on the market yet  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-20-06 02:19 PM   #45 
        - And how many kinds of lube are there?  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:23 PM   #49 
           - Abortion IS a Responsible Action! You Just Don't Like It!  REP   Nov-20-06 02:26 PM   #52 
           - Screech a little louder, maybe your opinion will be a little more correct...  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:38 PM   #58 
              - Run a Little Faster - Maybe No One Will Notice!  REP   Nov-20-06 02:51 PM   #67 
              - Incest leads to genetic abnormalities, so yes there's a medical reason  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 03:04 PM   #81 
                 - This Is Not a Hypothetical  REP   Nov-20-06 03:21 PM   #90 
                 - So you are condoning Pregancy As Punishment  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 03:54 PM   #106 
                 - Exactly. How would you like to be the "punishment" for your mother's mistake?  Iris   Nov-20-06 08:34 PM   #139 
                 - Check out how going before a panel of doctors was "good" for Kate Michaelman, former chairman of  Iris   Nov-20-06 08:41 PM   #143 
                 - "Or remove her ovaries" ? .... that is the stupidest thing I've read on DU  Crim_n al   Nov-20-06 10:14 PM   #156 
              - But you want to force women and girls to carry unwanted children  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 04:27 PM   #119 
           - I got pregnant first time using the pill, condoms, spermicide and  Crim_n al   Nov-20-06 09:27 PM   #149 
           - 'cuz we all know that birth control NEVER fails....  Scout   Nov-21-06 12:10 PM   #158 
        - Wrong.  REP   Nov-20-06 02:21 PM   #46 
        - 1) Preventative actions, 2) Other options, 3) Where did I say I was astonished?  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:28 PM   #56 
           - Give Me a Break!  REP   Nov-20-06 02:34 PM   #57 
           - Ok, I'll give you a break: I can see you're a very impatient person...  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:41 PM   #60 
              - You Have Never Answered  REP   Nov-20-06 02:52 PM   #71 
                 - See? Impatient. n/t  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 03:10 PM   #85 
           - Um - using 2 condoms at one time? Bad idea.  Iris   Nov-20-06 02:43 PM   #63 
              - As I said elsewhere: Lube. Also, no less practical than brushing your teeth or flossing.  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 02:51 PM   #68 
                 - I think using one or 2 forms of bc is adequate.  Iris   Nov-20-06 02:53 PM   #72 
                 - Unless a form of bc has a 100% effectiveness, your premise is faulty...  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 03:09 PM   #84 
                    - That's just ridiculous. I still stand by my "premise" (which is really my opinion  Iris   Nov-20-06 08:16 PM   #135 
                 - I had a friend once who couldn't take bc pills, and was allergic to latex.  Lars39   Nov-20-06 04:45 PM   #126 
                 - ha! No, she COULD have sex if she uses spermicide (which I'm SURE is much  Iris   Nov-20-06 08:19 PM   #136 
                 - you're a real piece of work...  Scout   Nov-21-06 12:19 PM   #159 
        - Some women can't take the pill - it would ruin their health  Clark2008   Nov-20-06 02:48 PM   #65 
        - You Were Careless - Shoulda Used Three! or More!  REP   Nov-20-06 02:55 PM   #75 
        - Meaningless hyperbole, not suprising.  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 03:14 PM   #87 
           - Yes, You Screech Squawk Screech But You Say Nothing - Just Avoid Questions  REP   Nov-20-06 03:27 PM   #93 
           - Actually, I thought it was funny.  Clark2008   Nov-20-06 03:31 PM   #97 
        - Lube? And I've already responded to the inability to take a pill...  DRoseDARs   Nov-20-06 03:13 PM   #86 
        - Carry a child to term and give it up for Adoption???  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 03:43 PM   #103 
        - I can't take birth control pills  gollygee   Nov-20-06 05:43 PM   #134 
  - If contraception was more readily available, and if sex ed was better...  Beaverhausen   Nov-20-06 01:52 PM   #21 
  - Contraception and sex education are wonderful and necessary,  greyhound1966   Nov-20-06 02:15 PM   #41 
  - Any health care worker who's been through a maternity  Warpy   Nov-20-06 01:52 PM   #22 
  - Here's The Studies on the Psychological Sequelae to Surrendering for Adoption  REP   Nov-20-06 02:02 PM   #27 
     - The Pro-Lifers claim a similar grief reaction...  whoneedstickets   Nov-20-06 02:07 PM   #35 
        - Wrong, And Here's THOSE Studies:  REP   Nov-20-06 02:11 PM   #37 
           - What flawed methodology!  whoneedstickets   Nov-20-06 02:23 PM   #47 
              - Read Them Again; "Scanned" and "They Appear" Is Not Analysis  REP   Nov-20-06 02:27 PM   #53 
                 - Chek my edit above  whoneedstickets   Nov-20-06 02:41 PM   #61 
                    - Tee Hee  REP   Nov-20-06 02:57 PM   #76 
                       - I'm glad you're amused...  whoneedstickets   Nov-20-06 03:02 PM   #80 
                          - Do I Smell Something?  REP   Nov-20-06 03:23 PM   #92 
  - I suppose what they mean is it should  TallahasseeGrannie   Nov-20-06 01:57 PM   #24 
  - Thats touchy....  buckettgirl   Nov-20-06 02:06 PM   #33 
  - It's not really a choice if you have an abortion because you were raped or  Iris   Nov-20-06 02:06 PM   #34 
  - Ask them if, when a man masturbates, if he is killing potential life  kevinbgoode   Nov-20-06 02:16 PM   #42 
  - ejaculation is not fertilization  Marnieworld   Nov-20-06 03:18 PM   #88 
     - "Life" Does NOT Begin Before Birth!!  novalib   Nov-20-06 03:42 PM   #102 
        - I agree. . .and I thought our Constitution clearly says you become  kevinbgoode   Nov-20-06 09:21 PM   #148 
  - Try focusing on the "decision" rather than the act  Big Sky Boy   Nov-20-06 02:18 PM   #43 
  - Why not start with some "history" of the abortion debate?  IdaBriggs   Nov-20-06 02:19 PM   #44 
  - These people are like the vegetarians  jilln   Nov-20-06 02:26 PM   #51 
  - Most pregnancies end up being miscarried, often without the woman  question everything   Nov-20-06 02:27 PM   #54 
  - I think the original premises are wrong.  Cleita   Nov-20-06 02:27 PM   #55 
  - FYI Here is an interesting viewpoint that may help a little  Pugee   Nov-20-06 02:41 PM   #62 
  - As long as they are pro-choice, does it matter  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-20-06 02:50 PM   #66 
  - But they are not pro-choice.  Iris   Nov-20-06 02:52 PM   #70 
  - simple- my body my choice, your body your choice  grizmaster   Nov-20-06 02:58 PM   #77 
  - That's what I've always said to these weaseling nosy Busy-Bodies.  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 04:12 PM   #111 
  - How about this: It's none of your fucking business what a woman  Union Thug   Nov-20-06 03:02 PM   #79 
  - "Should only" is different from "The law should demand..."  Alexander   Nov-20-06 03:08 PM   #83 
  - They are pro-choice. They just believe the state should choose, not women.  robertpaulsen   Nov-20-06 03:20 PM   #89 
  - Discuss Right and wrong, vs legal.  JacksonWest   Nov-20-06 03:32 PM   #98 
  - Abortion is a Religious freedom issue.  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 03:36 PM   #99 
  - "Life Begins At Fertilization"?!?!?!?!?!  novalib   Nov-20-06 03:40 PM   #101 
  - logic alone. abortion murder. still murder with rape, incest and mothers  seabeyond   Nov-20-06 04:13 PM   #112 
  - First of all, that's a contradiction in terms.  AZBlue   Nov-20-06 04:21 PM   #116 
  - I Call Them "No-Choicers"!  Megahurtz   Nov-20-06 04:40 PM   #123 
     - Exactly. Actually, a lot of "pro-lifers" say it's ok in the case of a mother's health in danger.  AZBlue   Nov-20-06 05:32 PM   #133 
        - yep. I said the same in several posts above.  Iris   Nov-20-06 08:33 PM   #138 
  - I would use the fact that the right to an abortion is more than just that  RGBolen   Nov-20-06 05:02 PM   #130 
  - "Should only take place" or "should only be legal"?  Donald Ian Rankin   Nov-20-06 05:12 PM   #132 
  - safe rare legal . work on reduction of poverty to promote culture of life  mdmc   Nov-20-06 08:20 PM   #137 
  - I'm against abortion...  MrsGrumpy   Nov-20-06 08:35 PM   #140 
  - Okay *takes deep breath*...  tinfoil tiaras   Nov-20-06 08:54 PM   #145 
  - How 'bout a big ole hug instead?  MrsGrumpy   Nov-20-06 09:57 PM   #151 
     - Aw, thank you!  tinfoil tiaras   Nov-20-06 10:04 PM   #152 
        - Not much, just me...way too late again. I always mean to go to bed  MrsGrumpy   Nov-20-06 10:05 PM   #153 
           - Awesome. I'm out of school all of this week  tinfoil tiaras   Nov-20-06 10:47 PM   #157 
  - The question isn't "When does life begin?"  last1standing   Nov-20-06 09:02 PM   #146 
  - I'm pro choice - true story  Perragrande   Nov-20-06 09:37 PM   #150 

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