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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 10:01 PM
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77. Ok, you might have a bit of a case....
But your letter is 150 words, compared to 900 for Moore's. The points you compared from Moore's letter to yours often have quite different context than your letter. Moore's letter was far more developed than yours and covered many more points.

It is possible that Moore may have taken inspiration from your idea, but maybe not. Many, many Democrats have been pushing for bipartisanship with great sincerity while, at the same, indicating that we're not forgetting the GOP's failings.

Send Moore and email, and see what he says.
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  -You guys are getting me all riled up about this Michael Moore business. The Witch  Nov-14-06 04:29 PM   #0 
  - Make him give you credit...  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-14-06 04:33 PM   #1 
  - Has it occured to anyone that this might be news to Michael Moore? Maybe one of his  file83   Nov-14-06 07:47 PM   #62 
  - excellent advice  helderheid   Nov-14-06 09:30 PM   #69 
  - Let's give him time to respond  Mr_Spock   Nov-14-06 09:31 PM   #70 
  - has he been? GOOD!  helderheid   Nov-15-06 09:39 AM   #97 
  - I agree  SouthernBelle82   Nov-15-06 06:55 AM   #86 
  - Dave Schankula...  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-15-06 10:47 AM   #104 
     - That's a good counter point. Ultimately, it's Moore who is responsible for  file83   Nov-15-06 02:42 PM   #108 
  - Yes...  Dorian Gray   Nov-14-06 11:21 PM   #80 
  - Huh....  Mythsaje   Nov-14-06 04:33 PM   #2 
  - You know, Witch, it never occurred to me  TallahasseeGrannie   Nov-14-06 04:34 PM   #3 
  - Get ready to lose respect for him...  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-14-06 04:52 PM   #18 
     - Well, that's just low  TallahasseeGrannie   Nov-15-06 07:15 AM   #87 
  - Looks like a case of great minds thinking alike.  MrSlayer   Nov-14-06 04:34 PM   #4 
  - Nobody thinks THAT MUCH alike.  dbaker41   Nov-14-06 04:36 PM   #5 
  - And the similarities in the points are beyond coincidental, too.  karlrschneider   Nov-14-06 04:46 PM   #15 
  - note the mention of guns  dweller   Nov-14-06 05:10 PM   #27 
     - Only because Moore is obsessed with the gun issue  benEzra   Nov-24-06 07:28 PM   #133 
  - It certainly is  wicket   Nov-15-06 07:47 AM   #89 
  - No way. That's line-for-line identical.  Kelly Rupert   Nov-14-06 04:37 PM   #6 
  - Looks way too alike to me. n/t  mondo joe   Nov-14-06 04:37 PM   #7 
  - As soon as I read his email, I immediately thought of your  bear425   Nov-14-06 04:38 PM   #8 
  - Same here. I was surprised to see it with no attribution.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-15-06 09:38 AM   #96 
  - email these to him, ask for credit. Perhaps he got permission from someone else  uppityperson   Nov-14-06 04:39 PM   #9 
  - I suspect that ...  Laelth   Nov-15-06 07:10 PM   #110 
  - Recommended.  Kelly Rupert   Nov-14-06 04:39 PM   #10 
  - moore isnt a democrat.... republican or democratic or green  seabeyond   Nov-14-06 04:43 PM   #12 
     - Oh, I know.  Kelly Rupert   Nov-14-06 04:44 PM   #13 
        - thank you for the simple fact you know  seabeyond   Nov-14-06 04:57 PM   #21 
  - yours is better. i remember yours. i saved it for my boys to read  seabeyond   Nov-14-06 04:41 PM   #11 
  - Maybe he didn't know. Email him and ask.  uppityperson   Nov-14-06 04:45 PM   #14 
  - That's a possibility I rather want to believe.  karlrschneider   Nov-14-06 04:48 PM   #16 
  - I wrote something that was influenced by your above writing  tavalon   Nov-14-06 04:51 PM   #17 
  - Remind me to find you on livejournal, then.  The Witch   Nov-14-06 06:37 PM   #56 
  - I sent an email off to him  Gelliebeans   Nov-14-06 04:55 PM   #19 
  - x2  Mr_Spock   Nov-14-06 09:34 PM   #72 
  - We got to know that organization well after Katrina  Keseys Ghost   Nov-14-06 04:56 PM   #20 
  - hiya and agree. Need to email and ask him.  uppityperson   Nov-14-06 05:01 PM   #22 
  - That email of Moore's is NOT the first time he's said that kind of stuff!!  jilln   Nov-14-06 05:03 PM   #23 
  - too close. he can address us.... n/t  seabeyond   Nov-14-06 05:05 PM   #24 
     - But I have video of Moore saying VERY similar things over TWO YEARS AGO  MN Against Bush   Nov-14-06 06:13 PM   #49 
     - Indeed, furthermore both Moore AND Witch might have been influenced by others  cryingshame   Nov-15-06 08:25 AM   #91 
     - So you're saying he copied her years before and it was too close to hers...  jilln   Nov-15-06 09:40 AM   #98 
  - I think about 200 people here could have written the same thing  Beaverhausen   Nov-14-06 05:08 PM   #25 
  - There is a difference between writing on the same subjects  readmoreoften   Nov-14-06 05:23 PM   #29 
     - The strutcture is not at ALL unique to Witch. Though her original work is great  cryingshame   Nov-15-06 08:25 AM   #92 
  - When I read Moore's piece, I thought it was your post  SnowGoose   Nov-14-06 05:09 PM   #26 
  - If you did not copyright it, is it not fair game?  AJ9000   Nov-14-06 05:15 PM   #28 
  - but it is chicken shit  seabeyond   Nov-14-06 05:24 PM   #30 
  - The writer of a work automatically has a copyright.  readmoreoften   Nov-14-06 05:25 PM   #32 
  - I think anything original is automatically copyrighted.  suziedemocrat   Nov-14-06 05:28 PM   #33 
  - By the mere fact that she "published" this on the web  Sydnie   Nov-14-06 05:32 PM   #34 
  - Can you provide a reference on that? I'd like to look at it. nm  AJ9000   Nov-14-06 05:48 PM   #40 
     - I'll see what I can dig up for you n/t  Sydnie   Nov-14-06 05:52 PM   #42 
     - This is pretty simplistic, but it seems correct to me anyway.  Sydnie   Nov-14-06 06:00 PM   #44 
     - Thanks I'll read it. nm  AJ9000   Nov-14-06 06:32 PM   #52 
     - Here it is -- circular R1, copyright basics.  gkhouston   Nov-15-06 10:32 AM   #103 
  - It IS copyrighted  boolean   Nov-14-06 06:02 PM   #46 
  - U.S. copyright law is strange. We are party to the Berne Convention.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-15-06 11:23 AM   #107 
  - I posted yours on my blog, thought you were perfect. MM stole from you.  Ioo   Nov-14-06 05:24 PM   #31 
  - "MM stole from you." Wow! That's one hell of an accusation.  Buzz Clik   Nov-15-06 08:36 AM   #94 
  - You have a compelling case. But I don't agree with you or Moore  ComerPerro   Nov-14-06 05:35 PM   #35 
  - I was struck by the same thing as soon as I read it.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-14-06 05:41 PM   #36 
  - Yo, Witch!  Sapphocrat   Nov-14-06 05:43 PM   #37 
  - I'm just pissed he didn't steal my version  jgraz   Nov-14-06 05:43 PM   #38 
  - ok.  d_b   Nov-14-06 05:46 PM   #39 
  - I'll be honest.  Pithlet   Nov-14-06 05:48 PM   #41 
  - In Journalism, There's A Reason They Call It "Copy"  Tace   Nov-14-06 05:57 PM   #43 
  - And I, by profession, am a copy editor.  The Witch   Nov-14-06 06:40 PM   #57 
     - Have you contacted him?  Dorian Gray   Nov-14-06 11:29 PM   #81 
  - I'd say he's caught  boolean   Nov-14-06 06:01 PM   #45 
  - PLEASE READ, THIS IS NOT PLAGIARISM  MN Against Bush   Nov-14-06 06:02 PM   #47 
  - interesting  stepnw1f   Nov-14-06 06:36 PM   #55 
  - I think he's a great filmmaker.  The Witch   Nov-14-06 06:46 PM   #58 
  - If I had just saw your post and nothing else I would say plagiarism, but...  MN Against Bush   Nov-14-06 06:59 PM   #60 
     - and you are right. would be a huge coincidence, and i dont often do  seabeyond   Nov-14-06 07:51 PM   #63 
  - wow  nashville_brook   Nov-14-06 07:10 PM   #61 
  - Great post.  Buzz Clik   Nov-15-06 08:17 AM   #90 
  - Truthfully I think many Progressives  malaise   Nov-15-06 08:40 AM   #95 
     - I agree. On election night I can remember  Pithlet   Nov-15-06 09:45 AM   #99 
  - I doubt Michael Moore would just let people steal his work & take credit for it.  bling bling   Nov-14-06 06:08 PM   #48 
  - Well fly on over there  mmonk   Nov-14-06 06:14 PM   #50 
  - I think that it is very big of you to  yellowdogmi   Nov-14-06 06:14 PM   #51 
  - I read yours...then I read his...I came to the same conclusion.  StrictlyRockers   Nov-14-06 06:33 PM   #53 
  - I just read you post and I must say that...  David Zephyr   Nov-14-06 06:35 PM   #54 
  - just more evidence  dweller   Nov-14-06 06:52 PM   #59 
  - My advice? Let it go. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Hissyspit   Nov-14-06 07:53 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-14-06 08:01 PM   #65 
  - That's What I Noticed as Well  stepnw1f   Nov-14-06 09:27 PM   #68 
  - Is the nastiness really necessary?  WildEyedLiberal   Nov-14-06 09:33 PM   #71 
  - I decided I'm too good a person to be bothered all that much by this.  The Witch   Nov-14-06 08:07 PM   #66 
  - It's up to you...  WildEyedLiberal   Nov-14-06 09:36 PM   #73 
  - I read that on his site today and thought the same thing.  evolved Anarchopunk   Nov-14-06 09:22 PM   #67 
  - Please get a camera and track him down. It'd make a  lectrobyte   Nov-14-06 09:42 PM   #74 
  - I will if you give me a grant to make it.  The Witch   Nov-14-06 09:56 PM   #76 
     - Grant? That would mean checking the couch cushions, since the  lectrobyte   Nov-14-06 10:04 PM   #78 
  - It's no accident, IMO  mirandapriestly   Nov-14-06 09:45 PM   #75 
  - Ok, you might have a bit of a case....  Buzz Clik   Nov-14-06 10:01 PM   #77 
  - "With thanks to The Witch", will do nicely  Canuckistanian   Nov-14-06 11:08 PM   #79 
  - You have that all wrong  omega minimo   Nov-14-06 11:59 PM   #82 
  - Hard to believe that much resemblance is uncanny coincidence.  kdpeters   Nov-15-06 12:35 AM   #83 
  - first of all I would not assume he drafted it himself  Stephanie   Nov-15-06 12:52 AM   #84 
  - that was my first thought when I read the MM piece  AZDemDist6   Nov-15-06 06:53 AM   #85 
  - Same here.  Thegonagle   Nov-15-06 07:41 AM   #88 
  - Dear Witch, your original post was great. The form was like a Manifesto  cryingshame   Nov-15-06 08:28 AM   #93 
  - A million. . .  DIKB   Nov-15-06 09:49 AM   #100 
  - Wow, who needs conservatives  jilln   Nov-15-06 09:53 AM   #101 
  - If Moore knowingly ripped this off from you,  Zavulon   Nov-15-06 10:25 AM   #102 
  - Not that anyone needs my $0.02, but...  Plaid Adder   Nov-15-06 10:51 AM   #105 
  - Great summary.  Buzz Clik   Nov-15-06 11:06 AM   #106 
  - My Advice: Consult an attorney.  Laelth   Nov-15-06 07:02 PM   #109 
  - Sorry. I don't see it.  Maddy McCall   Nov-16-06 12:25 PM   #111 
  - 2004, BITCHES  leopardtweezer   Nov-16-06 12:31 PM   #112 
  - Hmmmmmmmmmmm? 2004?  zidzi   Nov-16-06 12:41 PM   #113 
  - 2006 is the year of the donkey kicking out the elephant  wicket   Nov-16-06 12:54 PM   #115 
  - A perspective from 2004...  InvisibleTouch   Nov-16-06 12:50 PM   #114 
  - He copped it. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. I wouldnt worry about it much.  Dr Fate   Nov-16-06 01:05 PM   #116 
  - Maybe you should look at this  zidzi   Nov-16-06 02:22 PM   #121 
     - Fine with me. I dont think "copping" in politics, music or art is a bad thing.  Dr Fate   Nov-16-06 02:29 PM   #122 
        - No, I didn't "suggest" any such thing.  zidzi   Nov-16-06 02:40 PM   #123 
           - All arguing aside- we both agree that the message is good.  Dr Fate   Nov-16-06 04:13 PM   #127 
  - As an old hack, who got published & wrote extensively for radio, TV and newspaper...  Jeffersons Ghost   Nov-16-06 01:06 PM   #117 
  - That is my take as well. We should all be glad this great message is being repeated. n/t  Dr Fate   Nov-16-06 01:21 PM   #118 
     - hmmm,  Cracker_Sensei   Nov-16-06 01:34 PM   #119 
        - I know- what a bastard he is for borrowing and then posting positive talking points.  Dr Fate   Nov-16-06 02:17 PM   #120 
  - kick  Make7   Nov-16-06 03:35 PM   #124 
  - Someone thinks mighty highly of themselves.  Zhade   Nov-16-06 03:42 PM   #125 
  - Moore's "version" was first - 2004  greyl   Nov-16-06 03:55 PM   #126 
  - has The Witch seen the 2004 Moore version?  QuestionAll...   Nov-21-06 09:44 PM   #132 
  - It disappeared  frovic   Nov-17-06 10:27 AM   #128 
  - So...  Aexia   Nov-18-06 03:30 PM   #129 
     - At your current posting rate, you should reach 1,000 posts in about 400 years.  Make7   Nov-21-06 08:50 PM   #130 
     - ...  Bluebear   Nov-25-06 06:58 PM   #134 
     - Welcome to DU!  AZBlue   Nov-21-06 09:23 PM   #131 
 

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