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Tue Nov-14-06 05:43 PM
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| 38. I'm just pissed he didn't steal my version |
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Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 05:51 PM by jgraz
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... ETA: He clearly stole yours. You don't get two articles this close by random chance.
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| -You guys are getting me all riled up about this Michael Moore business. |
The Witch |
Nov-14-06 04:29 PM |
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Make him give you credit... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Nov-14-06 04:33 PM |
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Has it occured to anyone that this might be news to Michael Moore? Maybe one of his |
file83 |
Nov-14-06 07:47 PM |
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excellent advice |
helderheid |
Nov-14-06 09:30 PM |
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Let's give him time to respond |
Mr_Spock |
Nov-14-06 09:31 PM |
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has he been? GOOD! |
helderheid |
Nov-15-06 09:39 AM |
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I agree |
SouthernBelle82 |
Nov-15-06 06:55 AM |
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Dave Schankula... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Nov-15-06 10:47 AM |
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That's a good counter point. Ultimately, it's Moore who is responsible for |
file83 |
Nov-15-06 02:42 PM |
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Yes... |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-14-06 11:21 PM |
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Huh.... |
Mythsaje |
Nov-14-06 04:33 PM |
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You know, Witch, it never occurred to me |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Nov-14-06 04:34 PM |
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Get ready to lose respect for him... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Nov-14-06 04:52 PM |
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Well, that's just low |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Nov-15-06 07:15 AM |
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Looks like a case of great minds thinking alike. |
MrSlayer |
Nov-14-06 04:34 PM |
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Nobody thinks THAT MUCH alike. |
dbaker41 |
Nov-14-06 04:36 PM |
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And the similarities in the points are beyond coincidental, too. |
karlrschneider |
Nov-14-06 04:46 PM |
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note the mention of guns |
dweller |
Nov-14-06 05:10 PM |
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Only because Moore is obsessed with the gun issue |
benEzra |
Nov-24-06 07:28 PM |
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It certainly is |
wicket |
Nov-15-06 07:47 AM |
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No way. That's line-for-line identical. |
Kelly Rupert |
Nov-14-06 04:37 PM |
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Looks way too alike to me. n/t |
mondo joe |
Nov-14-06 04:37 PM |
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As soon as I read his email, I immediately thought of your |
bear425 |
Nov-14-06 04:38 PM |
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Same here. I was surprised to see it with no attribution. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-15-06 09:38 AM |
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email these to him, ask for credit. Perhaps he got permission from someone else |
uppityperson |
Nov-14-06 04:39 PM |
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I suspect that ... |
Laelth |
Nov-15-06 07:10 PM |
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Recommended. |
Kelly Rupert |
Nov-14-06 04:39 PM |
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moore isnt a democrat.... republican or democratic or green |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-06 04:43 PM |
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Oh, I know. |
Kelly Rupert |
Nov-14-06 04:44 PM |
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thank you for the simple fact you know |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-06 04:57 PM |
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yours is better. i remember yours. i saved it for my boys to read |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-06 04:41 PM |
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Maybe he didn't know. Email him and ask. |
uppityperson |
Nov-14-06 04:45 PM |
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That's a possibility I rather want to believe. |
karlrschneider |
Nov-14-06 04:48 PM |
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I wrote something that was influenced by your above writing |
tavalon |
Nov-14-06 04:51 PM |
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Remind me to find you on livejournal, then. |
The Witch |
Nov-14-06 06:37 PM |
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I sent an email off to him |
Gelliebeans |
Nov-14-06 04:55 PM |
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x2 |
Mr_Spock |
Nov-14-06 09:34 PM |
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We got to know that organization well after Katrina |
Keseys Ghost |
Nov-14-06 04:56 PM |
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hiya and agree. Need to email and ask him. |
uppityperson |
Nov-14-06 05:01 PM |
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That email of Moore's is NOT the first time he's said that kind of stuff!! |
jilln |
Nov-14-06 05:03 PM |
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too close. he can address us.... n/t |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-06 05:05 PM |
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But I have video of Moore saying VERY similar things over TWO YEARS AGO |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-14-06 06:13 PM |
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Indeed, furthermore both Moore AND Witch might have been influenced by others |
cryingshame |
Nov-15-06 08:25 AM |
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So you're saying he copied her years before and it was too close to hers... |
jilln |
Nov-15-06 09:40 AM |
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I think about 200 people here could have written the same thing |
Beaverhausen |
Nov-14-06 05:08 PM |
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There is a difference between writing on the same subjects |
readmoreoften |
Nov-14-06 05:23 PM |
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The strutcture is not at ALL unique to Witch. Though her original work is great |
cryingshame |
Nov-15-06 08:25 AM |
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When I read Moore's piece, I thought it was your post |
SnowGoose |
Nov-14-06 05:09 PM |
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If you did not copyright it, is it not fair game? |
AJ9000 |
Nov-14-06 05:15 PM |
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but it is chicken shit |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-06 05:24 PM |
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The writer of a work automatically has a copyright. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-14-06 05:25 PM |
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I think anything original is automatically copyrighted. |
suziedemocrat |
Nov-14-06 05:28 PM |
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By the mere fact that she "published" this on the web |
Sydnie |
Nov-14-06 05:32 PM |
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Can you provide a reference on that? I'd like to look at it. nm |
AJ9000 |
Nov-14-06 05:48 PM |
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I'll see what I can dig up for you n/t |
Sydnie |
Nov-14-06 05:52 PM |
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This is pretty simplistic, but it seems correct to me anyway. |
Sydnie |
Nov-14-06 06:00 PM |
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Thanks I'll read it. nm |
AJ9000 |
Nov-14-06 06:32 PM |
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Here it is -- circular R1, copyright basics. |
gkhouston |
Nov-15-06 10:32 AM |
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It IS copyrighted |
boolean |
Nov-14-06 06:02 PM |
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U.S. copyright law is strange. We are party to the Berne Convention. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-15-06 11:23 AM |
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I posted yours on my blog, thought you were perfect. MM stole from you. |
Ioo |
Nov-14-06 05:24 PM |
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"MM stole from you." Wow! That's one hell of an accusation. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-15-06 08:36 AM |
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You have a compelling case. But I don't agree with you or Moore |
ComerPerro |
Nov-14-06 05:35 PM |
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I was struck by the same thing as soon as I read it. |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-14-06 05:41 PM |
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Yo, Witch! |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-14-06 05:43 PM |
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I'm just pissed he didn't steal my version |
jgraz |
Nov-14-06 05:43 PM |
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ok. |
d_b |
Nov-14-06 05:46 PM |
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I'll be honest. |
Pithlet |
Nov-14-06 05:48 PM |
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In Journalism, There's A Reason They Call It "Copy" |
Tace |
Nov-14-06 05:57 PM |
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And I, by profession, am a copy editor. |
The Witch |
Nov-14-06 06:40 PM |
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Have you contacted him? |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-14-06 11:29 PM |
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I'd say he's caught |
boolean |
Nov-14-06 06:01 PM |
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PLEASE READ, THIS IS NOT PLAGIARISM |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-14-06 06:02 PM |
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interesting |
stepnw1f |
Nov-14-06 06:36 PM |
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I think he's a great filmmaker. |
The Witch |
Nov-14-06 06:46 PM |
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If I had just saw your post and nothing else I would say plagiarism, but... |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-14-06 06:59 PM |
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and you are right. would be a huge coincidence, and i dont often do |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-06 07:51 PM |
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wow |
nashville_brook |
Nov-14-06 07:10 PM |
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Great post. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-15-06 08:17 AM |
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Truthfully I think many Progressives |
malaise |
Nov-15-06 08:40 AM |
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I agree. On election night I can remember |
Pithlet |
Nov-15-06 09:45 AM |
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I doubt Michael Moore would just let people steal his work & take credit for it. |
bling bling |
Nov-14-06 06:08 PM |
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Well fly on over there |
mmonk |
Nov-14-06 06:14 PM |
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I think that it is very big of you to |
yellowdogmi |
Nov-14-06 06:14 PM |
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I read yours...then I read his...I came to the same conclusion. |
StrictlyRockers |
Nov-14-06 06:33 PM |
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I just read you post and I must say that... |
David Zephyr |
Nov-14-06 06:35 PM |
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just more evidence |
dweller |
Nov-14-06 06:52 PM |
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My advice? Let it go. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. |
Hissyspit |
Nov-14-06 07:53 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-14-06 08:01 PM |
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That's What I Noticed as Well |
stepnw1f |
Nov-14-06 09:27 PM |
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Is the nastiness really necessary? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-14-06 09:33 PM |
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I decided I'm too good a person to be bothered all that much by this. |
The Witch |
Nov-14-06 08:07 PM |
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It's up to you... |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-14-06 09:36 PM |
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I read that on his site today and thought the same thing. |
evolved Anarchopunk |
Nov-14-06 09:22 PM |
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Please get a camera and track him down. It'd make a |
lectrobyte |
Nov-14-06 09:42 PM |
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I will if you give me a grant to make it. |
The Witch |
Nov-14-06 09:56 PM |
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Grant? That would mean checking the couch cushions, since the |
lectrobyte |
Nov-14-06 10:04 PM |
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It's no accident, IMO |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-14-06 09:45 PM |
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Ok, you might have a bit of a case.... |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-14-06 10:01 PM |
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"With thanks to The Witch", will do nicely |
Canuckistanian |
Nov-14-06 11:08 PM |
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You have that all wrong |
omega minimo |
Nov-14-06 11:59 PM |
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Hard to believe that much resemblance is uncanny coincidence. |
kdpeters |
Nov-15-06 12:35 AM |
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first of all I would not assume he drafted it himself |
Stephanie |
Nov-15-06 12:52 AM |
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that was my first thought when I read the MM piece |
AZDemDist6 |
Nov-15-06 06:53 AM |
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Same here. |
Thegonagle |
Nov-15-06 07:41 AM |
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Dear Witch, your original post was great. The form was like a Manifesto |
cryingshame |
Nov-15-06 08:28 AM |
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A million. . . |
DIKB |
Nov-15-06 09:49 AM |
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Wow, who needs conservatives |
jilln |
Nov-15-06 09:53 AM |
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If Moore knowingly ripped this off from you, |
Zavulon |
Nov-15-06 10:25 AM |
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Not that anyone needs my $0.02, but... |
Plaid Adder |
Nov-15-06 10:51 AM |
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Great summary. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-15-06 11:06 AM |
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My Advice: Consult an attorney. |
Laelth |
Nov-15-06 07:02 PM |
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Sorry. I don't see it. |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-16-06 12:25 PM |
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2004, BITCHES |
leopardtweezer |
Nov-16-06 12:31 PM |
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm? 2004? |
zidzi |
Nov-16-06 12:41 PM |
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2006 is the year of the donkey kicking out the elephant |
wicket |
Nov-16-06 12:54 PM |
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A perspective from 2004... |
InvisibleTouch |
Nov-16-06 12:50 PM |
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He copped it. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. I wouldnt worry about it much. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-16-06 01:05 PM |
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Maybe you should look at this |
zidzi |
Nov-16-06 02:22 PM |
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Fine with me. I dont think "copping" in politics, music or art is a bad thing. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-16-06 02:29 PM |
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No, I didn't "suggest" any such thing. |
zidzi |
Nov-16-06 02:40 PM |
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All arguing aside- we both agree that the message is good. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-16-06 04:13 PM |
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As an old hack, who got published & wrote extensively for radio, TV and newspaper... |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Nov-16-06 01:06 PM |
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That is my take as well. We should all be glad this great message is being repeated. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Nov-16-06 01:21 PM |
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hmmm, |
Cracker_Sensei |
Nov-16-06 01:34 PM |
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I know- what a bastard he is for borrowing and then posting positive talking points. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-16-06 02:17 PM |
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kick |
Make7 |
Nov-16-06 03:35 PM |
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Someone thinks mighty highly of themselves. |
Zhade |
Nov-16-06 03:42 PM |
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Moore's "version" was first - 2004 |
greyl |
Nov-16-06 03:55 PM |
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has The Witch seen the 2004 Moore version? |
QuestionAll... |
Nov-21-06 09:44 PM |
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It disappeared |
frovic |
Nov-17-06 10:27 AM |
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So... |
Aexia |
Nov-18-06 03:30 PM |
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At your current posting rate, you should reach 1,000 posts in about 400 years. |
Make7 |
Nov-21-06 08:50 PM |
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... |
Bluebear |
Nov-25-06 06:58 PM |
#134 |
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Welcome to DU! |
AZBlue |
Nov-21-06 09:23 PM |
#131 |
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