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Sun Nov-12-06 03:08 PM
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| 116. Indeed, it was a populist victory. |
| -To those of you who still think centrists won this election |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 02:35 AM |
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You betcha! |
aquart |
Nov-12-06 02:40 AM |
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The "Centrist" spin is all over the media, AND THE FOREIGN MEDIA |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 11:24 PM |
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Tell it like it is, jgraz, cause the networks and Newsweek sure the hell ain't |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-12-06 02:41 AM |
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kick and nom nt |
wakeme2008 |
Nov-12-06 02:43 AM |
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I hear that! Does the Dem leadership? |
upi402 |
Nov-12-06 02:44 AM |
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I'd be a little careful with characterizing Tester as a liberal |
rpannier |
Nov-12-06 02:46 AM |
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Same for Webb, as you note. nt |
JudyM |
Nov-12-06 02:30 PM |
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Woo! Can I get an AMEN! n/t |
TygrBright |
Nov-12-06 02:46 AM |
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It was a rejection of labels |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 02:47 AM |
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I think that is an excellent analysis of the results |
Leilani |
Nov-12-06 03:10 AM |
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Yes, we need to calm down and center for our corporate masters |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 03:17 AM |
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Don't speak in their frames |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 03:35 AM |
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You can't lay good "policy" on bankrupt presumptions |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 03:47 AM |
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People over ideology |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 03:55 AM |
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Those are well and good, but what about..................... |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 04:37 AM |
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whine piss and moan |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:47 AM |
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Funny you would call me a lefty "liberal" - I am an evangelical Christian |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 04:56 AM |
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Hey -- true Christians are about as lefty liberal as you can get! |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 05:00 AM |
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Amen! ;) |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 05:13 AM |
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Jesus invented Liberalism! nt |
femrap |
Nov-12-06 05:12 PM |
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Of course they want real change |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 05:00 AM |
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My point is we are cheating ourselves believing we can't do better |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 05:10 AM |
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Morereason - please put these comments into a new topic so we can all K&R them |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 05:19 AM |
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I tried, must have done something wrong ;) |
Morereason |
Nov-13-06 02:32 AM |
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Rejection of labels |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 05:32 AM |
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how do you know what the people want? |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 02:18 PM |
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this is the REAL problem in this country: diminished expectations |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 02:03 PM |
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You get it :) . |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 11:10 PM |
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yes, i do |
noiretblu |
Nov-13-06 01:08 AM |
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excelent points Morereason |
marions ghost |
Nov-12-06 04:54 AM |
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Excellent Post! |
bvar22 |
Nov-12-06 09:44 AM |
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interesting exchange going on here |
Jim Warren |
Nov-12-06 11:31 AM |
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But you seem to be speaking in their frames |
Telly Savalas |
Nov-12-06 07:18 AM |
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excellent observation |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 02:09 PM |
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very well said! thank you, Morereason! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 03:41 AM |
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Garbage |
Leilani |
Nov-12-06 05:22 AM |
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Still angry, you damn well bet! And we better *stay* angry! |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 11:17 PM |
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Hell, I'd be happy if we just roll back the far right agenda of the last 6 years -n/t |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-12-06 04:47 AM |
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What analysis? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-12-06 02:23 PM |
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The police and fire departments are free-- |
eridani |
Nov-12-06 03:24 AM |
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They're not free |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 03:32 AM |
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Tax-supported public services are still free-- |
eridani |
Nov-12-06 03:51 AM |
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That doesn't mean 'free' health care |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:02 AM |
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It means free AT THE POINT OF SERVICE-- |
eridani |
Nov-12-06 11:30 PM |
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"the albatross of far leftist ideology" that would have won congress |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 03:37 AM |
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There are few far leftists in Congress |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 03:49 AM |
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gun control, ending the war, single-payer universal insurance, |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 04:03 AM |
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They always were |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:12 AM |
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"the far left" is who i spoke of in my first post to you. that would be |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 04:23 AM |
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Not true |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:27 AM |
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not true. exactly. eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 06:02 AM |
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Is that how you reason? |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 06:33 AM |
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how simplified. i found that you had inadvertently said what i was |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 07:18 AM |
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Exactly -- the rejection of labels was HUGE |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 04:16 AM |
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It's about legislation presented |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:31 AM |
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That's not liberal vs non-liberal |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 04:45 AM |
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Stupid vs. smart - yeah, that would be it |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:48 AM |
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The public got a glimpse through the propaganda........ |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 04:49 AM |
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Great post, sandnsea! |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-12-06 07:09 AM |
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Do you have any evidence to back up those statements? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-12-06 02:22 PM |
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The OP's anecdotal evidence was well-countered, so yes n/t |
spoony |
Nov-13-06 12:07 AM |
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No, not really. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-13-06 10:30 AM |
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Indeed, it was a populist victory. |
gully |
Nov-12-06 03:08 PM |
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Awesome post, sandnsea n/t |
spoony |
Nov-13-06 12:08 AM |
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the country's "owners" wasted no time hammering us with propaganda |
leftofthedial |
Nov-12-06 02:56 AM |
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yes, fact. well said! ty! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 03:43 AM |
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You're being a bit selective, aren't you? |
TheWraith |
Nov-12-06 03:09 AM |
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Feel free to select your own set of candidates |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 03:20 AM |
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I'd give you a greatest if I could |
rpannier |
Nov-12-06 03:23 AM |
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That party isn't doing that. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-12-06 02:26 PM |
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Proud to be #5 - Thi is the start of a movement. They don't want Capitol |
autorank |
Nov-12-06 03:11 AM |
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Great Post and welcome to DY Jgraz.... |
althecat |
Nov-12-06 03:13 AM |
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As long as they get to keep their guns their happy. nt |
Life Long Dem |
Nov-12-06 03:14 AM |
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This gun ownership being taken away by Dems is another canard. |
caledesi |
Nov-12-06 12:11 PM |
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Unless your guns look like this... |
benEzra |
Nov-13-06 09:22 AM |
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response to you from another thread, reposted here |
cali |
Nov-12-06 03:45 AM |
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And my response to your response from the other thread |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 04:06 AM |
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We're not going to agree |
cali |
Nov-12-06 04:18 AM |
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Here's the real motivation for the OP |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 04:22 AM |
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OK, got it. |
cali |
Nov-12-06 04:32 AM |
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Hate to tell you this.... |
Shakespeare |
Nov-12-06 02:53 PM |
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sweet reading, jgraz. thank you for this list! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 03:47 AM |
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i complimented too soon. please take the vulgar racist word |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 04:08 AM |
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Hmm..no Macaca, but "Honky" is OK... |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 04:18 AM |
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That's how we won the race |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 04:33 AM |
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if you have to become a fascist to fight fascists, why fight them |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 07:41 AM |
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Oh my god |
sandnsea |
Nov-12-06 12:33 PM |
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not by me. but for those who use slurs, at least it slurs HIM and |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 07:34 AM |
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The problem is.. |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 08:13 AM |
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i appreciate your reply and thoughts on this. i lived in places |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 08:41 AM |
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Great post |
malaise |
Nov-12-06 04:09 AM |
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k&r |
xchrom |
Nov-12-06 05:06 AM |
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Uh-huh, and I'll bet all of their campaign ads |
neebob |
Nov-12-06 05:28 AM |
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who fuckin cares? why not direct the comments to someone who actually said this? |
bigtree |
Nov-12-06 06:06 AM |
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Wow -- such a helpful comment |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 06:14 AM |
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contributing |
bigtree |
Nov-12-06 07:12 AM |
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Thanks -- that's a pretty good post |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 07:23 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-12-06 06:33 AM |
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Why is this information important?? Read this: |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 06:58 AM |
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very important post. thank you. eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-12-06 07:46 AM |
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Everyone won the election, |
mmonk |
Nov-12-06 07:03 AM |
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Not bullying and name calling |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 07:20 AM |
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the pendulum is swinging back HARD! k&r |
BlueEyedSon |
Nov-12-06 07:37 AM |
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Too bad all those gay marriage bans passed, and Lamont lost CT handily |
skipos |
Nov-12-06 10:06 AM |
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Lamont loss is a great example of my point |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 10:30 AM |
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Lamont got about as much help as our other candidates |
skipos |
Nov-12-06 10:57 AM |
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Republicans put sore loserman into power. |
Pithy Cherub |
Nov-12-06 11:01 AM |
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27% of liberals, 53% of moderates and 66% of conservatives voted for Joe |
skipos |
Nov-12-06 11:12 AM |
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Makes the point Traitor Joe is not a Democrat. n/t |
Pithy Cherub |
Nov-12-06 11:17 AM |
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The Arizona gay marriage ban failed. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Nov-12-06 08:23 PM |
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Lefty McLefterman. Now that's funny. |
leeroysphits |
Nov-12-06 10:43 AM |
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Excellent! |
Pithy Cherub |
Nov-12-06 10:57 AM |
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VG. Another great argument for neo-cons that are saying we |
caledesi |
Nov-12-06 12:00 PM |
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Absolutely |
alarimer |
Nov-12-06 12:08 PM |
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Do you REALLY think... |
yibbehobba |
Nov-12-06 12:18 PM |
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There is little evidence to argue either way |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 12:44 PM |
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There's a lot of evidence. |
Lurking Dem |
Nov-12-06 01:37 PM |
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That doesn't make sense to me, either. nt |
JudyM |
Nov-12-06 02:33 PM |
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A mandate for liberalism? |
Rosemary2205 |
Nov-12-06 12:19 PM |
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Funny how gay marriage is always first on the list... |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 01:18 PM |
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I'm not denegrating anything. |
Rosemary2205 |
Nov-12-06 01:31 PM |
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dead wrong, on so many levels |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 05:16 PM |
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In the End I would say Populism and Anti-Iraq won the day |
Geek_Girl |
Nov-12-06 12:20 PM |
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FORD - case in point.... |
sfwriter |
Nov-12-06 01:29 PM |
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Pelosi and everyone call keep calling it centrist... |
yebrent |
Nov-12-06 02:03 PM |
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I'm with you on this... |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 02:49 PM |
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Me too, as long as they keep moving progressive |
Morereason |
Nov-12-06 11:40 PM |
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K&R/nt |
nam78_two |
Nov-12-06 02:47 PM |
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yes n/t |
28erl |
Nov-12-06 02:59 PM |
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lol |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 03:04 PM |
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Being anti-war is not a leftist position. Being pro stemcell is not moderate. |
gully |
Nov-12-06 03:08 PM |
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Is this pre-emptive credit grabbing or "post-emptive?" |
gulliver |
Nov-12-06 03:12 PM |
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huh? |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 03:29 PM |
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That was a cheap shot. An ad hominem attack. |
quantessd |
Nov-12-06 05:22 PM |
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What? He's slamming me becase I don't have as many posts as he does??? |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 06:31 PM |
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Arizona became first state to defeat gay marriage ban. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Nov-12-06 04:26 PM |
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Go Loebsack |
pstans |
Nov-12-06 05:52 PM |
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I love it! Leach was elected when I was a freshman there in College 30 years ago! |
calipendence |
Nov-12-06 11:58 PM |
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Progressive Populism RULES! |
PassingFair |
Nov-12-06 05:58 PM |
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But jgraz, those are all mainstream cnadidates. LOL |
FogerRox |
Nov-12-06 07:19 PM |
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They are now :) |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 10:57 PM |
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I claim that mainstream issues from 40 yrs ago are still mainstream |
FogerRox |
Nov-13-06 12:57 AM |
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I hardly think most voters cared; they voted against corruption and lies |
kdpeters |
Nov-12-06 09:30 PM |
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An opportunity... |
DAMANgoldberg |
Nov-13-06 12:09 AM |
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You just have to have a liberal concept |
ThoughtCriminal |
Nov-12-06 10:08 PM |
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k/r |
upi402 |
Nov-12-06 10:09 PM |
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This Is a Great Thread |
Southpawkicker |
Nov-12-06 10:10 PM |
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Strong post |
Jcrowley |
Nov-12-06 10:14 PM |
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Great list - I felt it but now I KNOW it. Thanks - recommended |
williesgirl |
Nov-12-06 10:16 PM |
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Actually, it was 42/42 in Dallas. |
crispini |
Nov-12-06 11:03 PM |
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I actually heard it on Thom Hartman (I think) but that's good news... |
jgraz |
Nov-12-06 11:15 PM |
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Here 'tis |
crispini |
Nov-13-06 05:49 AM |
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I think the public needed to focus on a few issues that the Dems were pushing... |
calipendence |
Nov-12-06 11:55 PM |
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It certainly wasn't a mandate for making nice with the bozos who |
mhatrw |
Nov-13-06 03:01 PM |
#153 |
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