| -Elton John says organized religion encourages hatred of gays |
oberliner |
Nov-11-06 11:20 PM |
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Sadly, it's hard to refute what he says... |
Ken Burch |
Nov-11-06 11:22 PM |
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I agree |
daleo |
Nov-11-06 11:23 PM |
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Yes, gays and so much more |
Ishoutandscream2 |
Nov-11-06 11:24 PM |
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He ought to become a Wiccan, then |
silverojo |
Nov-11-06 11:42 PM |
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Exactly what I was thinking! nt |
laheina |
Nov-12-06 04:36 PM |
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why does he have to become anything? |
donsu |
Nov-13-06 11:31 AM |
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Religion is a wedge tool to hammer wedge issues. nt |
valerief |
Nov-11-06 11:58 PM |
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What?? Just because organized religion is about controlling the people-n/t |
Bluestar |
Nov-12-06 12:57 AM |
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Religion is not compassionate. Especially when it comes to marriage. |
JackBeck |
Nov-12-06 01:02 AM |
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Elton John is ignorant. Elton John is smearing with BROAD generalities. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 03:40 PM |
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Liberal Christians need to get out in the public square and let people know their views |
Nikki Stone1 |
Nov-12-06 03:51 PM |
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Thanks for proving my point. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 03:54 PM |
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Can you cite the "statement after statement" from the mainline clergy? |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 03:56 PM |
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Well, then here's a bit of "inspirational and illustration" for you |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:00 PM |
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Gays don't speak up for you as a person in poverty? How DARE you. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:03 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-12-06 04:13 PM |
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We don't all wear pink triangles. Are you really that simplistic? |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:14 PM |
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If it's not what "defines" you, then why is it necessary for your to |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:17 PM |
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. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:18 PM |
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Now *that's* simplistic. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:23 PM |
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I think EJ should have said "many organized religions and sects". |
Zhade |
Nov-12-06 06:18 PM |
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Absolutely!! Very simple concept, eh? But, he'd rather make enemies, I guess. |
bobbolink |
Nov-13-06 02:49 PM |
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Honestly, I think he didn't think it through. |
Zhade |
Nov-14-06 12:07 AM |
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Boy can you lay it on thick |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-14-06 04:16 AM |
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Oh. My. Fucking. God. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:03 PM |
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. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-23-06 04:34 AM |
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You seem to have misread |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 12:54 AM |
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Yes, "... religion, when misused/misinterpreted/abused, leads to maltreatment of gays." |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-13-06 11:16 AM |
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And other forms of bigotry as well, such as class bigotry |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 12:21 PM |
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I wrote to my congresscritters. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:29 PM |
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I thank you for your efforts. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:33 PM |
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You say that as if gays don't count among the poor. |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 04:55 PM |
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We should also focus on laws that discriminate against poor people. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 12:26 PM |
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Gay people are all yuppies from New York City, |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-13-06 10:32 PM |
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To be fair... |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-12-06 08:07 PM |
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True that |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-13-06 11:30 AM |
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You do realize it's possible to be gay and poor, right? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-13-06 12:26 AM |
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That is blatently wrong |
dsc |
Nov-12-06 04:33 PM |
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Thank you. The response said "Class warfare"...right? |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:38 PM |
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No I don't |
dsc |
Nov-12-06 04:41 PM |
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My initial response was about Elton John's hateful words. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:44 PM |
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you can blame Elton John until the cows come home and give birth to aliens |
dsc |
Nov-12-06 05:55 PM |
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"The agenda"? Any more right wing talking points you'd like to throw in? |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 06:01 PM |
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WHOSE agenda? |
Zhade |
Nov-12-06 06:20 PM |
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"Elton John's hateful words"? |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 08:10 AM |
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So Why Is There No Ban On Eating Shrimp? or Other Ridiculous BS In Leviticus? |
we can do it |
Nov-13-06 08:32 AM |
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I don't know, why isn't there? |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 09:18 AM |
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I forgot to quote the new testament ban on homosexuality. |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 09:25 AM |
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Dr. David M. Carr's interpretation of I Corinithians 6:9-1 |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-13-06 11:03 AM |
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Because Paul of Tarsus claimed Jesus came to him and told him |
mondo joe |
Nov-13-06 01:55 PM |
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1. Elton John was talking about religion in general, not Christianity specifically |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-14-06 05:03 AM |
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What EJ said is TRUE. We are just quibbling about the scope. |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 09:36 PM |
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You really don't want a dialogue, do you? |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 04:43 PM |
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It's a shame this post is so far upthread. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:52 PM |
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That's OK... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 04:55 PM |
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You made some really good points, Sapphocrat. |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-12-06 08:11 PM |
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Thanks, DG, I appreciate that. :) n/t |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 08:20 PM |
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Just like Elton John "asked" if Christians support gays? |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 05:03 PM |
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Thanks for proving my point. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 05:11 PM |
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So are you blaming Elton John for your behavior? |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:13 PM |
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sure! |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 05:57 PM |
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Since there are so many more Christians than Gays in the United States, |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:58 PM |
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Stop being so logical! LOL n/t |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 06:17 PM |
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Oh come now |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-14-06 04:55 AM |
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Those who forget history... |
Karenina |
Nov-12-06 06:17 PM |
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Elton John doesn't need to ask if Christians support gays |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-14-06 04:50 AM |
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Why are you bothering? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-14-06 04:27 AM |
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I bothered two days ago. LOL |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-14-06 02:06 PM |
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The pink triangles were used mainly for male gay people. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-12-06 06:04 PM |
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I know THAT'S bullshit, because I myself did kick and respond. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-06 06:17 PM |
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It sure doesn't sound as if you care...or count correctly... |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-12-06 08:42 PM |
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then why are you fostering it? |
noiretblu |
Nov-13-06 12:28 AM |
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No "pink triangles" care about poverty? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 12:44 AM |
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Sickening post. I'm gay and I was on strike for 6 months last year fighting for labor rights |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 01:34 AM |
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The Elton John Foundation responds to poverty and AIDS. |
94114_San_Francisco |
Nov-13-06 02:06 AM |
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I post about poverty and class warfare all the time |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-13-06 07:30 AM |
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Thank you! |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-13-06 07:15 AM |
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"How DARE you poor people" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 12:16 PM |
#416 |
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I don't think you want to start comparing... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 04:11 PM |
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I think the point trying to be made is |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:13 PM |
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You would have thought we would have learned that by hearing Muslims |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:18 PM |
#46 |
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Oh, I understand the point. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 04:24 PM |
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I would push back on that. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:37 PM |
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Actually |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:41 PM |
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I was a Christian fundie for 15 years. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:43 PM |
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All I've found so far |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 05:05 PM |
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"Banning organized religion sounds like a plan to me. " |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-12-06 08:14 PM |
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Yeah, when they make me king of the world. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 09:48 PM |
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Damnit donco |
Gelliebeans |
Nov-13-06 04:45 PM |
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2 votes down, 5 billion to go. |
donco6 |
Nov-13-06 05:16 PM |
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Make it 3. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 07:20 PM |
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Dontcha just MISS her?? |
donco6 |
Nov-14-06 08:19 AM |
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Read the bible and tell me that again. |
Zhade |
Nov-12-06 06:24 PM |
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Gee, Zhade, you mean, like... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 07:20 PM |
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Oh, and there's SO many more instances of that stuff. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 09:47 PM |
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Exactly, he could have made the point without saying he'd ban it |
treestar |
Nov-13-06 11:28 AM |
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Indeed. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:13 PM |
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Glad to hear it. Thank you. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:19 PM |
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If we go back THAT far... LOL ... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 05:10 PM |
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What's it called now? |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-12-06 08:17 PM |
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Oops! |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 08:26 PM |
#219 |
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Fine, then show it by joining in on the rare poverty posts that show up on DU |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:15 PM |
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'That would be fine with me.' Obviously. nt |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:17 PM |
#42 |
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So if we don't reply to a post, that means we don't support . . . |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:39 PM |
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It is certainly indicative of religionist's priorities in terms of dealing with... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 05:10 PM |
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I don't need to have my credentials approved by you. I vote for candidates |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 04:41 PM |
#80 |
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Do gay DUers with pro-labor icons count? |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 01:45 AM |
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I voted to increase the minimum wage here in Colo. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:26 PM |
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Well, I am gay and poor, so I need it twice. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-12-06 06:01 PM |
#154 |
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And if you're gay, poor AND Christian you will be able to shatter the weird little |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 06:04 PM |
#157 |
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I'm 2 of the three and my aunt, who is gay and poor too, is all three |
Jamastiene |
Nov-12-06 06:11 PM |
#164 |
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What about bi, middle class and Christian? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-13-06 12:27 AM |
#344 |
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That's good enough. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-23-06 04:37 AM |
#496 |
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What on Earth are you talking about? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 12:33 AM |
#351 |
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bobbolink, The Anglican church has almost split over gay rights, gay clergy |
Nikki Stone1 |
Nov-12-06 04:05 PM |
#25 |
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..... |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:10 PM |
#29 |
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in reality MOST LARGE CHRISTIAN INSTITUTIONS ARE OUTRIGHT HOSTILE TO GAY PERSONS. |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 09:51 PM |
#489 |
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Where are these statements by any mainline clergy on |
Jamastiene |
Nov-12-06 05:56 PM |
#149 |
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What does your poverty have to do with anything? |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 01:29 AM |
#365 |
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How about this kind of support? On the steps of the Cannon House Office Bldg? |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-13-06 12:14 PM |
#415 |
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I agree. He's using a broad brush when he would surely complain about |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-12-06 03:53 PM |
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Thank you! YES!! |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 03:56 PM |
#12 |
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he's not talking about YOU |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 05:06 PM |
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Elton would BAN religion completely, your church, my church, |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-12-06 06:45 PM |
#194 |
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wow...elton must be a god |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:51 PM |
#196 |
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And he is after all the Head Gay. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 07:01 PM |
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let's see: he's not a politician like santorum (was) |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 07:07 PM |
#202 |
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on another note |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:53 PM |
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And there's some poor bloke . . . |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 10:50 PM |
#275 |
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Well, look at Jerusalem |
LeftCoast |
Nov-12-06 04:02 PM |
#19 |
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Yes, you can find examples everywhere to prove your point. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:04 PM |
#24 |
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So you admit I proved my point? |
LeftCoast |
Nov-12-06 04:08 PM |
#28 |
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Also remember, Elton John is The Head Gay. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:10 PM |
#30 |
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Sure. All Christians are out to get you. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:20 PM |
#51 |
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'Let me know how you like it when we all pull back from support for you.' |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:22 PM |
#53 |
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"with all due respect"??????? |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:27 PM |
#59 |
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You consider your a post like this one "respectful"? |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:38 PM |
#70 |
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This whole thread was extremely disrespectful, but that seems to |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:46 PM |
#91 |
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Which is typical for DU. Which is typical for DU. Which is typical for DU. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:51 PM |
#97 |
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War against christians. War against christians. War against christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:29 PM |
#220 |
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DRUDGE! Bring up that flashing police light! |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 08:29 PM |
#221 |
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I see we're starting the '08 swiftboating campaign early. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 09:42 PM |
#236 |
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Yes - YOU - YOU are the disrespectful one here... YOU |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 09:56 PM |
#490 |
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So, let's see... you've noticed gays getting shit on DU, but you don't notice poor |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:30 PM |
#61 |
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You seem to be an extremely troubled person. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:36 PM |
#66 |
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OK, Dr. Laura. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:41 PM |
#79 |
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I'm no Dr. Laura, but you seem to have a problem with anger management |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:44 PM |
#86 |
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But you play her on TV, right? |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:47 PM |
#92 |
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No, I am male. Unless you think gays have gender problems too. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:48 PM |
#93 |
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I'm not the one who's labeling people sight unseen. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:51 PM |
#98 |
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You already labeled gays as not caring about poverty. |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 04:57 PM |
#104 |
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Good try. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:58 PM |
#107 |
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Here's your quote: |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:05 PM |
#114 |
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Yes, that was a later reply, after much attack. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 05:07 PM |
#119 |
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So did you say it or not? |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:10 PM |
#123 |
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chirp chirp chirp chirp |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:00 PM |
#286 |
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He said it. How can you not admit to a hateful thing you've said when it's documented ONLINE. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 01:48 AM |
#369 |
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Here's a clue for you - we don't all go around defining our whole fucking lives as just GAY. |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 10:00 PM |
#491 |
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public support from churches that gays enjoy? |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 10:07 PM |
#492 |
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And we'll notice that . . . how exactly? eom |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:40 PM |
#77 |
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ehehehehehehehe |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:46 PM |
#90 |
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Ah, grasshopper... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 05:16 PM |
#130 |
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Aw, you just couldn't see them from your vantage point. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:09 PM |
#210 |
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After picking myself out of the treads, right? |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 08:12 PM |
#212 |
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You're just whining because it rained the last three days. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:17 PM |
#216 |
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Sure. All gays are out to get you too. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-12-06 06:50 PM |
#195 |
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Nice threat |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 08:18 AM |
#388 |
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really, please cite some of those examples, please? |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 07:04 PM |
#201 |
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I agree as well... |
Hatalles |
Nov-12-06 04:02 PM |
#21 |
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Presbyterians as a denom don't accept gays. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 04:23 PM |
#55 |
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Damn straight! |
StopThePendulum |
Nov-12-06 07:51 PM |
#207 |
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He is not saying all religious people are hateful............ |
springhill |
Nov-13-06 01:23 AM |
#362 |
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Stop Smearing Mussolini With Broad Generalities! |
DrunkenMaster |
Nov-13-06 01:32 PM |
#424 |
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That's Because Many Churches Preach Bigotry |
stepnw1f |
Nov-13-06 06:31 PM |
#442 |
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Organized religion also encourages lack of rational thought. |
Oregonian |
Nov-12-06 03:56 PM |
#13 |
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Nah. There's only one reason: It's stupid. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 03:58 PM |
#15 |
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You're so right. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:02 PM |
#18 |
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that's not what he said |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-12-06 05:07 PM |
#118 |
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Oh me, oh my |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:06 PM |
#27 |
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That's what I say when references to Jesus and God are |
Oregonian |
Nov-12-06 04:11 PM |
#33 |
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Except that your statements are provably false. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:14 PM |
#37 |
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People have been telling the non-religious to shut up and play along for a long time. |
Oregonian |
Nov-12-06 04:17 PM |
#43 |
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So, you feel offended and are tired of it |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:19 PM |
#49 |
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I have the right to say I think religion encourages and depends upon |
Oregonian |
Nov-12-06 04:24 PM |
#57 |
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Of course you have the right to say it. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:34 PM |
#64 |
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Not to mention the Muslims and the Irish monastic orders |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 12:54 PM |
#421 |
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If someone is allowed to say that religion does NOT conflict with rationality.... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 04:35 PM |
#65 |
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Who said it was impermissible? |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:39 PM |
#73 |
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ROFLMAO!!!! Good one! You should take that show on the road! lolol! |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 04:40 PM |
#76 |
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Yeah, I need a sideshow clown |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 04:42 PM |
#82 |
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Aw shit. You're just a one-hit wonder who just does covers afterward? Damn. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 04:46 PM |
#89 |
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Yeah, well, tried to keep it fresh |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 05:06 PM |
#116 |
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No, Kant argued that reason itself was limited! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 12:59 PM |
#422 |
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Not *all* people, OK? That's the problem with Elton John! |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:40 PM |
#75 |
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OK, I'll bite. |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 08:23 AM |
#390 |
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No one said anything about |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-13-06 10:28 AM |
#400 |
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But yours is a non-answer. |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 10:34 AM |
#402 |
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I think it does answer that charge. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-13-06 10:56 AM |
#404 |
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According to Adam Smith, the founder of Paleo-Liberalism, rationality = selfishness. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 01:08 PM |
#423 |
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What about references to the flag? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 12:50 PM |
#420 |
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Yeah, and that fact is news to whom, exactly? |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 03:57 PM |
#14 |
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Elton John, theologian. |
ulysses |
Nov-12-06 04:00 PM |
#17 |
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Elton John, Department of Divide and Conquer |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:03 PM |
#22 |
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I think you have that quotation wrong |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 08:26 AM |
#391 |
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"Organized' religion promotes hatred of LOTS of groups |
SoCalDem |
Nov-12-06 04:02 PM |
#20 |
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I love your righteous evolution! nt |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:05 PM |
#26 |
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Don't the major religions condemn Homosexuals? |
Disturbed |
Nov-12-06 04:14 PM |
#39 |
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You are so very wrong. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:22 PM |
#52 |
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Bobbolink, yes, most mainline religions condemn gays. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:01 PM |
#109 |
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No, you're wrong. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 05:06 PM |
#115 |
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I see, when you express it that way . . . |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:16 PM |
#129 |
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yes, differences...^_^ |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 05:55 PM |
#147 |
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One openly gay bishop |
ThomCat |
Nov-13-06 07:17 AM |
#385 |
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Thanks for your words. |
bobbolink |
Nov-13-06 02:45 PM |
#430 |
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I'm not going to condemn Elton John for being mostly right |
ThomCat |
Nov-13-06 05:53 PM |
#438 |
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NEW POTD !!! |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:31 PM |
#451 |
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THanks for shitting on my olive branch. |
bobbolink |
Nov-13-06 09:05 PM |
#460 |
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... |
sniffa |
Nov-17-06 05:05 PM |
#484 |
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I call bullshit |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 08:20 AM |
#389 |
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Since you won't get an answer, GM, I'll try to help her out here... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-13-06 05:12 PM |
#435 |
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She posted one measly article in the thread in R/T. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:33 PM |
#452 |
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"But the bulk of the mainline Christians are in support of gays" |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 10:15 PM |
#493 |
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Most "organized " religions are against ANYTHING that is not |
SoCalDem |
Nov-12-06 04:38 PM |
#71 |
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E.g., sound and free thinking. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 04:56 PM |
#103 |
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the bible says we should be put to death. NICE BOOK!! |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-12-06 04:39 PM |
#72 |
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STOP! |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:45 PM |
#87 |
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Wonderful. Truth = bashing. Sigh. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 04:58 PM |
#106 |
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No. It isn't the case. (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 04:48 PM |
#94 |
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Yes it is. eom |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:02 PM |
#110 |
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Perhaps you should support your claim? (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 05:08 PM |
#120 |
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I supported it as much as you did. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:18 PM |
#132 |
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I didn't realize that Christianity was the only "major religion." |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 05:25 PM |
#140 |
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Guess so. eom |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:31 PM |
#143 |
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Oh, you haven't seen anything. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:21 PM |
#218 |
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Yes, religion is neutral on homophobia. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 10:32 PM |
#260 |
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Sure it is. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:42 PM |
#267 |
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Good for you. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 10:57 PM |
#281 |
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Ask Southpawkicker, he'll be more than happy to explain it. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:04 PM |
#290 |
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How did you come to that conclusion? |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 11:24 PM |
#300 |
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Hey, you're the one questioning whether liberal believers rejected religious intolerance. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:35 PM |
#301 |
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Because you seem to be arguing that religion is inherently homophobic. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 11:57 PM |
#316 |
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Not ALL religion is inherently homophobic and I never said it was. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:00 AM |
# |
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But in the ACTUAL world that we ACTUALLY live in it ACTUALLY is.... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:06 AM |
#323 |
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Yeah, he did piss in some cornflakes, didn't he? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:13 AM |
#330 |
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plus all the homo jokes and inuendos and snickers that are sanctioned... |
TankLV |
Nov-19-06 10:23 PM |
#494 |
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Then why attack me for saying that religion as a category is neutral on the question? |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:13 AM |
#329 |
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You just don't get it, do you? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:15 AM |
#332 |
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Do you really think absent religion they wouldn't be? |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:18 AM |
#335 |
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The idea that religion didn't aid, abet, amplify, and exacerbate such evils... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:22 AM |
#338 |
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I don't deal in what if's. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:22 AM |
#339 |
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I'm convinced he gets it. He just thinks like a religionist - if you say something... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:20 AM |
#337 |
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He claims he's a pagan. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:23 AM |
#340 |
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I believe in religious tolerance |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:27 AM |
#343 |
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(shrug) Talking is inherently personal. I don't have any good ideas how to get around that. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:29 AM |
#346 |
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Well, here are some suggestions |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:33 AM |
#350 |
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I appreciate your effort - here's my problem... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:37 AM |
#352 |
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Would you care to point at the claims that are lies or idiotic? |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:41 AM |
#355 |
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Of course not. It's purely hypothetical. 100%. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:42 AM |
#356 |
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And I don't? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:39 AM |
#353 |
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Sure, Ask Me Anything! |
Southpawkicker |
Nov-19-06 08:54 PM |
#485 |
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What PLANET are you from? Haven't you read Leviticus? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-17-06 12:52 PM |
#483 |
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HATRED has killed more people on earth than anything else... |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-12-06 09:10 PM |
#232 |
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Not all organized religions believe they have "the one true way." (n/t) |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 10:46 PM |
#269 |
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organized religion isn't so fond of women either |
donsu |
Nov-13-06 11:36 AM |
#410 |
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Yes, and I've been told I should be grateful that religious people |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:36 PM |
#453 |
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No shocker here |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-12-06 04:11 PM |
#31 |
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Oh, it's no shocker, you're right. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:16 PM |
#41 |
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And where did you get THAT talking point? |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 04:17 PM |
#45 |
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All that was missing was a reference to Streisand. nt |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:19 PM |
#50 |
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You read my mind! |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 04:49 PM |
#95 |
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Oh yeah, . . . |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:04 PM |
#112 |
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WHY, oh why hasn't this troll been tombstoned yet? |
kath |
Nov-12-06 10:49 PM |
#274 |
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Got me. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 10:58 PM |
#283 |
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Because he is a SWING VOTER! We NEED him! |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:59 PM |
#317 |
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Preaching to the choir -- but THANK YOU for saying it! |
LostinVA |
Nov-13-06 06:24 AM |
#382 |
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Funny, I ran across this thread doing a search! |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-13-06 09:55 PM |
#462 |
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Maybe if rightwingers were more creative |
ruggerson |
Nov-12-06 04:49 PM |
#96 |
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How did Bill O'Reilly get a DU membership? n/t |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 04:59 PM |
#108 |
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Spoken directly from the right wing's playbook. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-12-06 06:34 PM |
#190 |
| -
Nice talking points |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 01:24 AM |
#363 |
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Most Democrats are Christians and would take offense to Elton's comments |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Nov-13-06 07:29 PM |
#447 |
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Christian Democrat here, NOT offended by Sir Elton's comments. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-13-06 08:29 PM |
#450 |
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Thank you. |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 11:29 PM |
#465 |
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The truth hurts, doesn't it? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 11:22 PM |
#464 |
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I personally couldn't care less about his comments |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Nov-14-06 02:11 PM |
#480 |
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..... |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-15-06 12:02 AM |
#481 |
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"Really hateful lemmings" |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Nov-12-06 04:46 PM |
#88 |
| -
Right. It was organized atheists who formed the Abolition Movement. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 04:55 PM |
#100 |
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Organized Atheists! Organized Atheists! Organized Atheists! |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 04:57 PM |
#105 |
| -
the slave trade was also justified and excused by religionists |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 05:10 PM |
#121 |
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So, can't we take from this |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 05:13 PM |
#127 |
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If you were talking about a medication that had no impact one way or the |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:17 PM |
#131 |
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I think it has impact both ways. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 05:19 PM |
#133 |
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Really? It seems to make no difference one way or the other. |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:21 PM |
#139 |
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You know, I really have no idea how one would measure that. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 05:26 PM |
#141 |
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Doesn't matter to me. But if having a religion is powerful, or even true, |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:45 PM |
#146 |
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So come up with a system of measurement. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 06:09 PM |
#160 |
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I could offer some suggestions, but no organized religion will have a good |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 06:11 PM |
#162 |
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Without a system |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 06:18 PM |
#176 |
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I'll count my own impressions as my system. |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 06:26 PM |
#185 |
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I wouldn't ask anyone to take it up. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 07:37 PM |
#206 |
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ZING! eom |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 05:20 PM |
#134 |
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That's asinine. I cite the history of humanity as evidence.... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-12-06 05:20 PM |
#135 |
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Uh, ok? |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 05:21 PM |
#138 |
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absolutely...however, recall those folks here in america |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 05:35 PM |
#144 |
| -
you speak my mind, |
ulysses |
Nov-12-06 06:07 PM |
#159 |
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a lot of life happened |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:12 PM |
#166 |
| -
good to see you back, at any rate. |
ulysses |
Nov-12-06 06:21 PM |
#181 |
| -
I don't disagree that there are people who deserve this |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 06:12 PM |
#165 |
| -
if anti-gay initiative hadn't just passed in this election |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:16 PM |
#172 |
| -
Except Elton John isn't American |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 06:22 PM |
#182 |
| -
do you have to be american |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:30 PM |
#187 |
| -
No, of course you don't |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 07:36 PM |
#205 |
| -
my friend in germany |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 09:57 PM |
#241 |
| -
Ok, if that's what he said it was about |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:08 PM |
#246 |
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Sir Elton is in England. |
Karenina |
Nov-12-06 06:34 PM |
#189 |
| -
thanks for that information |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:42 PM |
#193 |
| -
PRECISELY ! |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:00 PM |
#243 |
| -
Oh crimeny |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:15 PM |
#248 |
| -
Right, this is an Elton John appreciation thread. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:21 PM |
#253 |
| -
You know what, |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:26 PM |
#256 |
| -
I heartily concur with everything you said |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 10:40 PM |
#265 |
| -
Yes, that's right, focus on criticizing Elton John instead of the religious bigots. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:44 PM |
#268 |
| -
It's not either or. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:49 PM |
#273 |
| -
Wow. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:56 PM |
#280 |
| -
I have a surprising amount of free time. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 11:01 PM |
#288 |
| -
Oh, but the religious right doesn't preach intolerance of homosexuals. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:07 PM |
#292 |
| -
RELIGION is neutral on homosexuality. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 11:44 PM |
#305 |
| -
Nice attempt to misrepresent my meaning. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:49 PM |
#309 |
| -
When you attacked me for saying that religion was neutral? |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:03 AM |
#320 |
| -
Oh enough with the hyperbole. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:08 AM |
#325 |
| -
I guess that's not supposed to be an attack. |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:15 AM |
#331 |
| -
See my post #322. n/t |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:16 AM |
#334 |
| -
Well, if the christians have to claim the Pope, I guess we're stuck with you. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:40 PM |
#266 |
| -
I don't live in the US. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:47 PM |
#270 |
| -
Nasty and bigoted? You're referring to the homophobic christians, I presume. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:55 PM |
#279 |
| -
It is nasty. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:57 PM |
#282 |
| -
Yes and it's just ever so icky too! |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:59 PM |
#285 |
| -
some of us have no more cheeks to turn |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 10:59 PM |
#284 |
| -
Hey, trust me |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 11:03 PM |
#289 |
| -
fair enuf |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 11:22 PM |
#297 |
| -
posted downstream |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 10:49 PM |
#272 |
| -
Still is justified and excused by some, too. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 05:20 PM |
#136 |
| -
hey, sapphocrat |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 05:36 PM |
#145 |
| -
completely true. |
bobbolink |
Nov-12-06 05:59 PM |
#152 |
| -
A group of atheists? Sure - many of the founding fathers. |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 06:05 PM |
#158 |
| -
do you seriously believe there were no atheists who worked to end slavery? |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:10 PM |
#161 |
| -
What "organized atheists" did so? You don't like bashing of atheists as a group? |
bobbolink |
Nov-13-06 02:41 PM |
#429 |
| -
Wipe the spittle off your monitor and read what you just posted. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:40 PM |
#454 |
| -
I'll point to just one atheist... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 06:40 PM |
#192 |
| -
And I can point to more than "just one" religious person who has supported you!! |
bobbolink |
Nov-13-06 02:48 PM |
#431 |
| -
Atheists who have done as much for civil rights and more: |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:42 PM |
#225 |
| -
See, this is what I love most about politcally-active atheists: |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 09:09 PM |
#231 |
| -
No, you stay right where you are (or is that left?) :) |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 09:19 PM |
#233 |
| -
I hate to disappoint you, bmus |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 10:26 PM |
#255 |
| -
I'm not disappointed at all. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:33 PM |
#261 |
| -
I See The Reward As Being In The Doing |
Southpawkicker |
Nov-12-06 09:58 PM |
#242 |
| -
I'd wager that almost all liberal believers do it for the same reason. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:27 PM |
#257 |
| -
Yes, BMUS but Theologians have always argued, going back before Xtianity, |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 01:52 PM |
#425 |
| -
Tell it to the theists who claim they would become immoral beasts without it. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:44 PM |
#455 |
| -
As I scrolled through this thread, I was waiting for it |
Goblinmonger |
Nov-13-06 08:27 AM |
#392 |
| -
bingo. Especially Christians |
ComerPerro |
Nov-12-06 06:13 PM |
#170 |
| -
Christian enslaved and Christianns fought it. Basically Christianity seems |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 05:15 PM |
#128 |
| -
In aggregate, that's true. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 05:21 PM |
#137 |
| -
no kidding. Lets not forget that it was Christians who had slaves |
ComerPerro |
Nov-12-06 06:13 PM |
#168 |
| -
Allow me to break up your consecutive posts... |
Karenina |
Nov-12-06 06:22 PM |
#183 |
| -
are you saying |
noiretblu |
Nov-12-06 06:39 PM |
#191 |
| -
Last time I checked, slavery wasn't wrong until Moses realized he was a Jew |
ComerPerro |
Nov-12-06 06:12 PM |
#167 |
| -
... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 07:00 PM |
#198 |
| -
I am dead serious. That always bothered me |
ComerPerro |
Nov-12-06 07:01 PM |
#200 |
| -
I know you are, CP. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-12-06 07:17 PM |
#203 |
| -
Better perhaps: He never recognized slavery as wrong per se.... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:09 AM |
#326 |
| -
Yes, and it was christian theology that was used |
ThomCat |
Nov-13-06 07:08 AM |
#383 |
| -
Ban Religion complety? |
mesobob |
Nov-12-06 05:07 PM |
#117 |
| -
There's a whole lot of truth to that |
Mr_Spock |
Nov-12-06 05:31 PM |
#142 |
| -
k/r |
upi402 |
Nov-12-06 06:03 PM |
#155 |
| -
every argument against gay marraige is rooted in religous views |
ComerPerro |
Nov-12-06 06:11 PM |
#163 |
| -
not true. |
ulysses |
Nov-12-06 06:20 PM |
#179 |
| -
Sir Elton is spot on. Particularly concerning the Catholic Church. |
terrya |
Nov-12-06 06:13 PM |
#169 |
| -
...duh? |
Zhade |
Nov-12-06 06:16 PM |
#171 |
| -
I work at San Francisco Airport... |
pink-o |
Nov-12-06 06:20 PM |
#178 |
| -
I think the word I'm looking for here is 'Duh'. :) |
DarkTirade |
Nov-12-06 06:26 PM |
#186 |
| -
LMAO |
ComerPerro |
Nov-12-06 06:31 PM |
#188 |
| -
Oh, dear. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:13 PM |
#213 |
| -
LOL! Best post on this entire thread! |
ThomCat |
Nov-12-06 08:35 PM |
#222 |
| -
But religion has absolutely nothing to do with it. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:51 PM |
#227 |
| -
but BMUS, those aren't (((REAL))) christians... |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-12-06 08:56 PM |
#228 |
| -
D'oh! |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 09:37 PM |
#235 |
| -
What a wonderful thing - to define words themselves so that you're always the good guy... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:13 AM |
#328 |
| -
2nd-ed. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:11 AM |
#327 |
| -
To me the point one should make to Elton John is that; |
The Straight Story |
Nov-12-06 08:43 PM |
#226 |
| -
Stop trying to make him out to be the intolerant one. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 08:59 PM |
#229 |
| -
His point is also about world peace, not only sexuality.... |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 09:02 PM |
#230 |
| -
Well, let's see, who is more justified in using the brush? |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 09:33 PM |
#234 |
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Speaking of the Inquisition, I hear that wasn't caused by religion either. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 09:50 PM |
#239 |
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Oh yeah, I remember that logic. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 09:51 PM |
#240 |
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And even if religion didn't CAUSE the inquisition, it didn't do a damn thing to prevent |
mondo joe |
Nov-12-06 10:00 PM |
#244 |
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Where Did You Hear That? |
Southpawkicker |
Nov-12-06 10:08 PM |
#247 |
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I just remembered why I lurve you so much, SPK. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:16 PM |
#249 |
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Almost As Dangerous |
Southpawkicker |
Nov-12-06 10:19 PM |
#251 |
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It's not a good analogy or comparison |
ruggerson |
Nov-12-06 10:01 PM |
#245 |
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I can show you a gay man who says he wants to ban my beliefs |
The Straight Story |
Nov-12-06 10:17 PM |
#250 |
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That was me. |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 10:28 PM |
#259 |
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Just don't start singing like Yoko Ono. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 10:34 PM |
#262 |
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LOL! Singing? Is *that* what that is? eom |
donco6 |
Nov-12-06 10:35 PM |
#263 |
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Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss me love! |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 10:39 PM |
#264 |
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A remark |
ruggerson |
Nov-12-06 11:01 PM |
#287 |
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You missed the point, I think. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:20 PM |
#252 |
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Who did what "worse and first"? |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 10:23 PM |
#254 |
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"Religion" |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:27 PM |
#258 |
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She's comparing the way religion was used to persecute gays to Elton John's statement. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 10:48 PM |
#271 |
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Wow. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-12-06 10:50 PM |
#276 |
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No, dearie, I live in the bible belt, people like you are the ones in la la land. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:16 PM |
#293 |
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Where are all the "mainstream" holy men when Falwell & Robertson spout off? |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 10:51 PM |
#277 |
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Nothing says tolerance like comparing his remarks to those of Fred Phelps. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:19 PM |
#295 |
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No one compared him to Fred Phelps but you. |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-13-06 10:29 AM |
#401 |
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Oh, isn't Freddy "nasty" too? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:46 PM |
#456 |
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Plenty did. |
kiahzero |
Nov-12-06 11:23 PM |
#298 |
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Maybe SOME of them would. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:42 PM |
#304 |
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You really think DUers would endorse attacking liberals? |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:00 AM |
#318 |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:05 AM |
#322 |
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I didn't say his sentiment was unforgivable |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:19 AM |
#336 |
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You're busted. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:26 AM |
#342 |
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I didn't condemn him. |
kiahzero |
Nov-13-06 12:30 AM |
#347 |
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Maybe they did and the MSM did not pay any attention |
treestar |
Nov-13-06 12:03 PM |
#414 |
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i think you missed the point |
noiretblu |
Nov-13-06 11:38 AM |
#411 |
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As long as some people are going to insist... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-13-06 08:23 PM |
#449 |
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ITA, you've summed this up well, he ignores that there are religious |
treestar |
Nov-13-06 11:47 AM |
#413 |
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"Equal" intolerance ??? Equal ??? EQUAL ??? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:48 PM |
#457 |
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LOL |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-13-06 03:26 AM |
#380 |
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This is pretty clear to me. |
Unvanguard |
Nov-12-06 08:41 PM |
#223 |
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Whoops, almost missed you there. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 02:01 AM |
#372 |
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What did he say that was false? |
boolean |
Nov-12-06 10:51 PM |
#278 |
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Would you appreciate someone pointing out the elephant in the room... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-13-06 12:15 AM |
#333 |
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POTD !!! |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 02:30 AM |
#377 |
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Elton and Brittney should do a Sunday Morning Show |
gulliver |
Nov-12-06 11:04 PM |
#291 |
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I take it you don't agree with his premise. |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:22 PM |
#296 |
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I agree with his premise. |
gulliver |
Nov-12-06 11:56 PM |
#314 |
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that's just silly Elton |
hfojvt |
Nov-12-06 11:18 PM |
#294 |
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"But he will not hear that kind of message at your average ... Catholic church." |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:23 PM |
#299 |
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neither of those messages is likely to come up |
hfojvt |
Nov-12-06 11:36 PM |
#302 |
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Sorry, but Boston area Catholic churches were being URGED from the PULPIT |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:47 PM |
#306 |
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like the guy in your avatar sings in his most famous song |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-12-06 11:48 PM |
#307 |
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"why John Lennon was as vile as that uppity homo Elton John, eh?" |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:55 PM |
#313 |
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I said Elton was silly, not vile |
hfojvt |
Nov-13-06 12:08 AM |
#324 |
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delete |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:51 PM |
#310 |
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11/06: Bishop ORDERS churches to play his homily urging yes vote on gay marriage ban |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:56 PM |
#315 |
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Oh, can I play too? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:38 PM |
#303 |
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Pope: Gays can never have a 'deep love' like heterosexuals. nt |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:48 PM |
#308 |
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Well isn't he the enlightened one? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-12-06 11:51 PM |
#311 |
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fascinating |
hfojvt |
Nov-13-06 12:30 AM |
#349 |
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The Vatican makes the policies, no? |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 12:51 AM |
#359 |
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21 churches take out newspaper ad to endorse gay marriage ban |
Bluebear |
Nov-12-06 11:54 PM |
#312 |
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and in liberal Wisconsin too. Tsk. Tsk. |
hfojvt |
Nov-13-06 12:45 AM |
#358 |
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Calgary's bishop orders letter read in EVERY church to "STAMP OUT" gay marriage |
Bluebear |
Nov-13-06 12:01 AM |
#319 |
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in retrospect, mentioning Catholics seems to have been a mistake |
hfojvt |
Nov-13-06 01:06 AM |
#361 |
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:) |
Bluebear |
Nov-13-06 01:27 AM |
#364 |
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I agree with Bluebear. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 01:59 AM |
#370 |
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Well |
GirlinContempt |
Nov-13-06 02:15 AM |
#375 |
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US Catholics prez. introduces letter to Senate (via Allard-R) re: DOMA |
Bluebear |
Nov-13-06 12:03 AM |
#321 |
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Even the Unitarian Universalist church? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-13-06 12:30 AM |
#348 |
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Decidedly NOT them. They are also called heretics though. nt |
Bluebear |
Nov-13-06 01:30 AM |
#366 |
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he is very much correct |
Skittles |
Nov-13-06 12:39 AM |
#354 |
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Elton was not accurate. MOST organized religion encourages hatred of gays. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 02:00 AM |
#371 |
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Some stats to back you up: |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 02:10 AM |
#374 |
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If you believe the bible |
undergroundpanther |
Nov-13-06 02:22 AM |
#376 |
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You bring up some of the same points as Sam Harris. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 02:32 AM |
#378 |
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Those are some glaring statistics, my friend. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 06:26 PM |
#441 |
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Yep, haven't seen anyone try to refute them either. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 07:03 PM |
#444 |
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Can you please strike Wicca from the "Organized Religion" list? |
Solon |
Nov-13-06 03:24 AM |
#379 |
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I know |
undergroundpanther |
Nov-13-06 03:29 PM |
#433 |
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Sure. I just wanted to include Wiccan beliefs. How about disorganized religion? |
readmoreoften |
Nov-13-06 06:23 PM |
#440 |
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Oh, who will defend poor powerless organized religion |
6000eliot |
Nov-13-06 03:51 AM |
#381 |
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It's hard to argue with him |
AngryOldDem |
Nov-13-06 08:40 AM |
#394 |
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It all depends on the religion and the individual church/denomination |
noonwitch |
Nov-13-06 08:51 AM |
#395 |
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Whatever, Elton...... |
Darth_Kitten |
Nov-13-06 09:16 AM |
#396 |
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Apparently they're very popular here, though |
spoony |
Nov-13-06 06:51 PM |
#443 |
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Really? Point them out. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 08:51 PM |
#458 |
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Feigned ignorance is the dumbest approach to an argument |
spoony |
Nov-14-06 01:31 AM |
#467 |
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Gosh, your post brings what word to mind? |
Puglover |
Nov-14-06 06:06 AM |
#474 |
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You don't know anything about me |
spoony |
Nov-14-06 11:31 AM |
#476 |
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Believe me Spoony. |
Puglover |
Nov-14-06 12:56 PM |
#478 |
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that's why I am a unitarian universalist |
jpwhite |
Nov-13-06 10:06 AM |
#399 |
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Organized Religions Suck. Period. |
DrunkenMaster |
Nov-13-06 10:39 AM |
#403 |
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a great post to end this thread with |
donsu |
Nov-13-06 11:39 AM |
#412 |
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BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
cboy4 |
Nov-13-06 01:59 PM |
#427 |
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Actually, if we'd started with it, it would have been. |
donco6 |
Nov-13-06 05:18 PM |
#437 |
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Occam's Razor |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-13-06 02:17 PM |
#428 |
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Just like Newton! |
DrunkenMaster |
Nov-13-06 06:04 PM |
#439 |
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I belong to no organized religion. I am a Religious Scientist. |
KamaAina |
Nov-13-06 12:46 PM |
#419 |
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"What's up, Elton? Rug on too tight or something?" |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 09:01 PM |
#459 |
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Those odious quotes both come from one of the many organized religions |
KamaAina |
Nov-14-06 12:33 PM |
#477 |
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Why should anyone care... |
majorjohn |
Nov-13-06 07:22 PM |
#446 |
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well good for him if he did say it |
pitohui |
Nov-13-06 07:41 PM |
#448 |
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The Brits are allowed to criticize religion. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-13-06 09:06 PM |
#461 |
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You agree with the banning of religion as John said? n/t |
spoony |
Nov-14-06 04:05 AM |
#468 |
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I think he's right to a point |
last_texas_dem |
Nov-15-06 12:19 AM |
#482 |
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organised religion |
iamthebandfanman |
Nov-19-06 09:39 PM |
#487 |
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Organized religion is neither. |
flvegan |
Nov-19-06 09:50 PM |
#488 |
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