SwingVoter2006
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Fri Nov-10-06 12:11 PM
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What uniquely liberal issues have broad traction?
I am asking as a swinging moderate.
No, this is not a jab. It's a serious question. I am curious, because to my way of thinking when an issue has broad enough traction it ceases to be defined in liberal or conservative terms, and simply becomes an American issue.
The national debt, for one thing; over which many grassroots cons and libs seem both pissed all to hell.
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| -We won in '06 because we won the center |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:15 AM |
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We won because people were angry at the Bush agenda. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:17 AM |
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I disagree... look at the closeness of some of these races... |
ShaneGR |
Nov-10-06 11:19 AM |
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Harold Ford ran as a conservative and lost. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:22 AM |
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Ford wasn't convincing, and they CRUCIFIED Tammy |
warrens |
Nov-10-06 11:28 AM |
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When Tammy was attacked personally |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:53 AM |
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Precisely |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:12 PM |
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Virginia could very well be a swing state in 08' |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 11:31 AM |
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You make good points. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:55 AM |
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That's the key |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:06 PM |
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Responses |
ShaneGR |
Nov-10-06 11:40 AM |
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Populism works in tennessee |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:50 AM |
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You're right! |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-10-06 11:59 AM |
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IMO, those votes would have made up the 3% difference |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:03 PM |
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Agree |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-10-06 12:16 PM |
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And not Democratic votes either |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:20 PM |
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I believe it was Malloy who said, |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-10-06 12:24 PM |
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Yep - it's the old "devil you know" mantra that people stick to |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:32 PM |
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Webb ran as a conservative and won the Senate for us. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-10-06 12:44 PM |
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I agree we won because of unrest over the war and Bush |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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I Don't Know What A Progressive Agenda Is... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-10-06 11:31 AM |
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that number doesn't mean much. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 12:00 PM |
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Independant doesn't necessarily mean "moderate" |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-10-06 11:19 AM |
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Good point. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:23 AM |
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We won the independents, not the center |
rocknation |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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Then Why Does 45% Of The Electorate Define Themselves As Moderate? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-10-06 11:36 AM |
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Because "moderate" is a feel good word that not many want to reject |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-10-06 12:00 PM |
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A majority of the public hold liberal positions on issues. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 12:02 PM |
#52 |
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Can you be specific? |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 12:11 PM |
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1st, the environment |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 12:27 PM |
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Moderate = not beholden to the extremes of the spectrum! |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 12:08 PM |
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The Independents are the center or are orthogonal (Libertarian) |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-10-06 12:46 PM |
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That's true but by and large I think many indepenents are |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:26 AM |
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Most independants are Libertarians? |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-10-06 12:01 PM |
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A third of Evangelicals voted Dem. They aren't center n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-10-06 11:20 AM |
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Dean said that on Daily Show. Would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the poll that info |
cryingshame |
Nov-10-06 11:22 AM |
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The Electorate Is 21% Liberal 35% Conservative And 42% Moderate |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-10-06 11:28 AM |
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I'm at work and can't really get involved in a big search now, but... |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-10-06 12:04 PM |
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And will we keep them in '08? nobody's is saying we shouldn't |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:28 AM |
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71%-24%-4% |
ShaneGR |
Nov-10-06 11:43 AM |
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That isn't up much from past years. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-10-06 12:02 PM |
#51 |
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There is no "center." So how do we pursue a strong progressive agenda... |
ClassWarrior |
Nov-10-06 11:21 AM |
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ok, good points, not the center but swing voters. |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:33 AM |
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Saying "there is no center" is Rovian doom-think. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-10-06 12:47 PM |
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I agree with Atrios - I just don't know what that *means*.... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-10-06 11:21 AM |
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See post #5. Lakoff says we should speak to the so-called "center"... |
ClassWarrior |
Nov-10-06 11:22 AM |
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With a populist message |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-06 11:24 AM |
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Indeed and what is so radical about that? |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-10-06 11:29 AM |
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Who said it was? |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-06 11:34 AM |
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I think I agree with you here. |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-10-06 11:45 AM |
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Yes |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-06 11:55 AM |
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If it was indeed the center then why did Chafee lose? |
gatorboy |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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But RI is the most democratic state in the country and Bush had |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:31 AM |
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I think you're just not giving the Dem campaign enough credit is all. |
gatorboy |
Nov-10-06 02:21 PM |
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we won because people weren't as scared... |
Actionman |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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expose the credit card bill |
sweetheart |
Nov-10-06 11:27 AM |
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Exactly. You win if your message appeals to both the center and the left |
Selatius |
Nov-10-06 11:29 AM |
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We were the liberals AND the conservatives AND the libertarians |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 11:29 AM |
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We won because we were the pretty blond in the room... |
txaslftist |
Nov-10-06 11:33 AM |
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In effect they defeated themselves |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:36 AM |
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It was a repudiation of the republican party by the center |
mmonk |
Nov-10-06 11:35 AM |
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That's only one factor in our winning, so the statement is false. |
porphyrian |
Nov-10-06 11:43 AM |
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I agree. |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Nov-10-06 11:52 AM |
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Tell that to Harold Ford. Progressives won the day. Centerists ARE radical. |
WA98296 |
Nov-10-06 11:54 AM |
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Exactly |
depakid |
Nov-10-06 11:57 AM |
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We won because Dean exploited the implosion of the GOP. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-10-06 11:54 AM |
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Ok--I agree. |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:56 AM |
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Dean is the new Rove |
treestar |
Nov-10-06 12:22 PM |
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ModerateProgressive could be a non-issue for now if we just |
higher class |
Nov-10-06 12:00 PM |
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Thanks, WI_DEM! |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 12:03 PM |
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Ending the war in Iraq is certainly of vital importance.... |
Bridget Burke |
Nov-10-06 12:14 PM |
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IA I would say the only mandate is to do things like |
treestar |
Nov-10-06 12:20 PM |
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By creating and supporting legislation |
TayTay |
Nov-10-06 12:06 PM |
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The center is one reason. |
H2O Man |
Nov-10-06 12:10 PM |
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Yes, WE won the Center. |
Bridget Burke |
Nov-10-06 12:17 PM |
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I agree |
DemCam |
Nov-10-06 12:42 PM |
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No, the repukes LOST the center; we can't count on that happening |
HardRocker05 |
Nov-10-06 01:51 PM |
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The only people |
not_a_robot |
Nov-10-06 03:43 PM |
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