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Fri Nov-10-06 11:19 AM
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| 2. Independant doesn't necessarily mean "moderate" |
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If independants agree with the Democratic agenda, then we can move full steam ahead with no worries.
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| -We won in '06 because we won the center |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:15 AM |
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We won because people were angry at the Bush agenda. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:17 AM |
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I disagree... look at the closeness of some of these races... |
ShaneGR |
Nov-10-06 11:19 AM |
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Harold Ford ran as a conservative and lost. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:22 AM |
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Ford wasn't convincing, and they CRUCIFIED Tammy |
warrens |
Nov-10-06 11:28 AM |
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When Tammy was attacked personally |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:53 AM |
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Precisely |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:12 PM |
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Virginia could very well be a swing state in 08' |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 11:31 AM |
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You make good points. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:55 AM |
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That's the key |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:06 PM |
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Responses |
ShaneGR |
Nov-10-06 11:40 AM |
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Populism works in tennessee |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:50 AM |
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You're right! |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-10-06 11:59 AM |
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IMO, those votes would have made up the 3% difference |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:03 PM |
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Agree |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-10-06 12:16 PM |
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And not Democratic votes either |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:20 PM |
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I believe it was Malloy who said, |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-10-06 12:24 PM |
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Yep - it's the old "devil you know" mantra that people stick to |
TornadoTN |
Nov-10-06 12:32 PM |
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Webb ran as a conservative and won the Senate for us. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-10-06 12:44 PM |
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I agree we won because of unrest over the war and Bush |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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I Don't Know What A Progressive Agenda Is... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-10-06 11:31 AM |
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that number doesn't mean much. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 12:00 PM |
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Independant doesn't necessarily mean "moderate" |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-10-06 11:19 AM |
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Good point. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 11:23 AM |
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We won the independents, not the center |
rocknation |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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Then Why Does 45% Of The Electorate Define Themselves As Moderate? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-10-06 11:36 AM |
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Because "moderate" is a feel good word that not many want to reject |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-10-06 12:00 PM |
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A majority of the public hold liberal positions on issues. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 12:02 PM |
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Can you be specific? |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 12:11 PM |
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1st, the environment |
Radical Activist |
Nov-10-06 12:27 PM |
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Moderate = not beholden to the extremes of the spectrum! |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 12:08 PM |
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The Independents are the center or are orthogonal (Libertarian) |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-10-06 12:46 PM |
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That's true but by and large I think many indepenents are |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:26 AM |
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Most independants are Libertarians? |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-10-06 12:01 PM |
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A third of Evangelicals voted Dem. They aren't center n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-10-06 11:20 AM |
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Dean said that on Daily Show. Would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the poll that info |
cryingshame |
Nov-10-06 11:22 AM |
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The Electorate Is 21% Liberal 35% Conservative And 42% Moderate |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-10-06 11:28 AM |
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I'm at work and can't really get involved in a big search now, but... |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-10-06 12:04 PM |
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And will we keep them in '08? nobody's is saying we shouldn't |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:28 AM |
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71%-24%-4% |
ShaneGR |
Nov-10-06 11:43 AM |
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That isn't up much from past years. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-10-06 12:02 PM |
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There is no "center." So how do we pursue a strong progressive agenda... |
ClassWarrior |
Nov-10-06 11:21 AM |
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ok, good points, not the center but swing voters. |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:33 AM |
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Saying "there is no center" is Rovian doom-think. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-10-06 12:47 PM |
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I agree with Atrios - I just don't know what that *means*.... |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-10-06 11:21 AM |
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See post #5. Lakoff says we should speak to the so-called "center"... |
ClassWarrior |
Nov-10-06 11:22 AM |
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With a populist message |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-06 11:24 AM |
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Indeed and what is so radical about that? |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-10-06 11:29 AM |
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Who said it was? |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-06 11:34 AM |
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I think I agree with you here. |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-10-06 11:45 AM |
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Yes |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-06 11:55 AM |
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If it was indeed the center then why did Chafee lose? |
gatorboy |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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But RI is the most democratic state in the country and Bush had |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:31 AM |
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I think you're just not giving the Dem campaign enough credit is all. |
gatorboy |
Nov-10-06 02:21 PM |
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we won because people weren't as scared... |
Actionman |
Nov-10-06 11:25 AM |
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expose the credit card bill |
sweetheart |
Nov-10-06 11:27 AM |
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Exactly. You win if your message appeals to both the center and the left |
Selatius |
Nov-10-06 11:29 AM |
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We were the liberals AND the conservatives AND the libertarians |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 11:29 AM |
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We won because we were the pretty blond in the room... |
txaslftist |
Nov-10-06 11:33 AM |
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In effect they defeated themselves |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:36 AM |
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It was a repudiation of the republican party by the center |
mmonk |
Nov-10-06 11:35 AM |
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That's only one factor in our winning, so the statement is false. |
porphyrian |
Nov-10-06 11:43 AM |
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I agree. |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Nov-10-06 11:52 AM |
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Tell that to Harold Ford. Progressives won the day. Centerists ARE radical. |
WA98296 |
Nov-10-06 11:54 AM |
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Exactly |
depakid |
Nov-10-06 11:57 AM |
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We won because Dean exploited the implosion of the GOP. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-10-06 11:54 AM |
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Ok--I agree. |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-06 11:56 AM |
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Dean is the new Rove |
treestar |
Nov-10-06 12:22 PM |
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ModerateProgressive could be a non-issue for now if we just |
higher class |
Nov-10-06 12:00 PM |
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Thanks, WI_DEM! |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 12:03 PM |
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Ending the war in Iraq is certainly of vital importance.... |
Bridget Burke |
Nov-10-06 12:14 PM |
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IA I would say the only mandate is to do things like |
treestar |
Nov-10-06 12:20 PM |
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By creating and supporting legislation |
TayTay |
Nov-10-06 12:06 PM |
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The center is one reason. |
H2O Man |
Nov-10-06 12:10 PM |
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Yes, WE won the Center. |
Bridget Burke |
Nov-10-06 12:17 PM |
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I agree |
DemCam |
Nov-10-06 12:42 PM |
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No, the repukes LOST the center; we can't count on that happening |
HardRocker05 |
Nov-10-06 01:51 PM |
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The only people |
not_a_robot |
Nov-10-06 03:43 PM |
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