| 160. That sounds like extenuating circumstances to me. |
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Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 10:08 PM by impeachdubya
Although I agree, 8 years sounds like an awful lot.
I'm sure the law has gotten tougher, but I knew people back in the day who had 2 DUIs in Illinois and got what they used to call "Supervision"- which meant, really nothing. No suspension, nothing.
Lesson #1 there, probably, is "don't act like a prick to the Judge".
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| -Build more prisons |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 08:28 PM |
#0 |
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Schwarzenegger shows Americans aren't paying close enough attention. |
Democrats_win |
Nov-09-06 08:33 PM |
#1 |
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Are they slick or what? |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 08:51 PM |
#3 |
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The CCPOA |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 08:37 PM |
#2 |
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Critical Resistance |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:00 PM |
#4 |
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He threatens to take over state system -- demands meeting with Schwarzenegger |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:13 PM |
#5 |
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Tales of threats at state prison hearings |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:16 PM |
#6 |
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30,000 dues-paying members reward, punish lawmakers |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:19 PM |
#7 |
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The corruption in California's prison system is revealed |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:25 PM |
#8 |
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My brother is currently on a 8 year sentence for a DUI. |
EdwardM |
Nov-09-06 09:28 PM |
#9 |
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That's the MADD nannys... |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:43 PM |
#11 |
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Way Too Many Non-Violent Drug Offenders TOO |
Wiley50 |
Nov-10-06 05:04 PM |
#113 |
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It sounds like your brother is exactly where he belongs... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-09-06 11:36 PM |
#25 |
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Did he kill anyone? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:03 AM |
#37 |
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No he didn't kill or injure anyone. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 01:28 AM |
#42 |
| -
While I agree drunk driving can be dangerous. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:34 AM |
#44 |
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He's in jail for endangering others.... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 02:19 PM |
#57 |
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Do you have the law on that? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 03:13 PM |
#61 |
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I know a guy in in a trailer park here who got 5 years because... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 03:24 PM |
#63 |
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That guy should not have got 5 years. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 03:45 PM |
#69 |
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The guy lost his home anyways... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 04:02 PM |
#72 |
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Can we at least agree that 8 years in prison is EXCESSIVE? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-10-06 03:39 PM |
#67 |
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Why, first thing that comes to my mind is that he is a multiple offender... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 03:55 PM |
#71 |
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Yeah it was his second offense. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:08 PM |
#74 |
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Because he did it again? |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 04:12 PM |
#76 |
| -
Harsher? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:21 PM |
#77 |
| -
Look, I have absolutely no sympathy for the guy... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 04:40 PM |
#89 |
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Who said anything about sympathy? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:48 PM |
#101 |
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I don't think I'm wrong... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 04:59 PM |
#110 |
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If he got 2 or 3 years |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 05:08 PM |
#115 |
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Considering that you used Draconian, that's actually ironic given my screenname... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 05:31 PM |
#120 |
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Did you ever consider this: |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-10-06 08:35 PM |
#146 |
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I'm a big pusher for public transit, from light rail, to busses, anything like that... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 08:43 PM |
#149 |
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I ain't getting in anything controlled by a computer |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-10-06 08:51 PM |
#150 |
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So your saying there shouldn't be any punishments against bad behavior? |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 10:41 PM |
#164 |
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I'm against any further expansion of law enforcement, |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-10-06 11:01 PM |
#168 |
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You seem to confuse Alcoholism(a disease), with Drunk Driving(a dumb decision)... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 11:15 PM |
#170 |
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I don't see transport as a non-basic need. |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-11-06 10:16 AM |
#177 |
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Actually, when I still drank, I thought computer-controlled bumper cars were the answer. |
impeachdubya |
Nov-11-06 12:17 AM |
#174 |
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Alternatively, it's your screenname that might be ironic. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-11-06 10:24 AM |
#180 |
| -
How about this, in the case of crimes that endanger others... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 04:55 PM |
#108 |
| -
Authoritarian Personality |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 05:00 PM |
#111 |
| -
Ha, that's a laugh... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 05:14 PM |
#116 |
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Fair enough... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 05:35 PM |
#121 |
| -
The problem is this, first, you seem to be under the assumption... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 06:10 PM |
#127 |
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there SHOULD be a "war against drunk-driving"... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 06:14 PM |
#128 |
| -
You'd be hard pressed to find anyone more socially libertarian than me |
impeachdubya |
Nov-10-06 08:37 PM |
#147 |
| -
what a dumb-ass... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:34 PM |
#82 |
| -
Surely he had other prior convictions, then? |
piedmont |
Nov-10-06 04:42 PM |
#91 |
| -
Is your brother in Illinois as well? |
impeachdubya |
Nov-10-06 08:41 PM |
#148 |
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He pissed off the judge. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 09:13 PM |
#151 |
| -
having been struck by an uninsured motorist... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 09:28 PM |
#154 |
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There's something he's not telling you |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 09:35 PM |
#156 |
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If there is, then I don't know what it is. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 10:00 PM |
#158 |
| -
Understood. But the sentence seemed so out of bounds... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 10:07 PM |
#159 |
| -
Yeah reading that has made me wonder. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 10:11 PM |
#161 |
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Could be. The first person to talk to would be his lawyer. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 10:27 PM |
#162 |
| -
You mean his horrible public defender? |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 10:45 PM |
#165 |
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Or the horrible public defender's supervisor. Someone. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 11:35 PM |
#171 |
| -
That sounds like extenuating circumstances to me. |
impeachdubya |
Nov-10-06 10:08 PM |
#160 |
| -
not for a repeat offender... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:46 PM |
# |
| -
And maybe it won't. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:53 PM |
#106 |
| -
That's a dumb argument, and you know it... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 05:02 PM |
#112 |
| -
Have you lived a perfect life? |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 01:28 AM |
#41 |
| -
i'll bet he thinks twice about drinking and driving when he gets out. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 11:20 AM |
#48 |
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I think you should get 8 years in prison for speeding. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 02:43 PM |
#60 |
| -
And cell phone use. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 03:17 PM |
#62 |
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i agree with that one 100% |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:35 PM |
#83 |
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Me too... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 04:43 PM |
#94 |
| -
i only "speed" when i'm going along with traffic. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:32 PM |
#80 |
| -
So you're part of a gang, are ya? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:35 PM |
#84 |
| -
"gang"??? |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:39 PM |
#88 |
| -
I know, The Expressway Traffic Gang... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:56 PM |
#109 |
| -
Did you EVER drive after smoking pot? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 05:49 PM |
#123 |
| -
nope. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 06:09 PM |
#126 |
| -
That's no excuse |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:39 PM |
#87 |
| -
um...you don't go to jail for 8 years for keeping up with traffic... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:41 PM |
#90 |
| -
Thats not the question |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:43 PM |
#92 |
| -
because he needs to learn a lesson. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:44 PM |
#95 |
| -
Yeah you can go fuck yourself. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:45 PM |
#96 |
| -
and cellblock B can go fuck your brother... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:47 PM |
#100 |
| -
Rape is an appropriate punishment for a driving offense, QuestionAll? |
asthmaticeog |
Nov-11-06 10:37 AM |
#181 |
| -
Really showing his true colors |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-12-06 12:32 PM |
#190 |
| -
And no I think I dont think it is alright for him to drive drunk |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:46 PM |
#97 |
| -
the kind of Democrat who abhors repeat offenders... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:49 PM |
#102 |
| -
Thats not the question. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:50 PM |
#103 |
| -
that's the opinion i have of low-life drunkard drivers. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:52 PM |
#105 |
| -
Do you think Edward Kennedy needs to go to prison? |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:55 PM |
#107 |
| -
I don't condone rape in prison, in fact, I believe it should be punished, mercilessly... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 05:23 PM |
#117 |
| -
Yes thanks. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 06:58 PM |
#131 |
| -
I don't really disagree with Questionall, at least in general, just that he seems to lack tact... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 07:20 PM |
#136 |
| -
Yes, My brother is a severe alcoholic |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 07:29 PM |
#138 |
| -
Why didn't they just take away his license? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-11-06 10:20 AM |
#179 |
| -
Then they would drive without a license |
Feron |
Nov-11-06 11:19 PM |
#185 |
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I agree for jail for repeat DUIs IF it involves driving without a license. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-12-06 08:37 AM |
#187 |
| -
Advocating felony assault is "lacking tact"? |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-12-06 12:34 PM |
#191 |
| -
Mm, would prison guards troll here? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 08:33 PM |
#145 |
| -
I've met a couple of open ones |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-12-06 12:35 PM |
#192 |
| -
Well, I've been bashing the hell out of their leadership... |
madmusic |
Nov-12-06 03:14 PM |
#194 |
| -
was he caught and convicted of drunk driving? |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 06:06 PM |
#125 |
| -
No he wasn't convicted. |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 07:09 PM |
#134 |
| -
had he been convicted of drunk driving for a 2nd time- |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 09:20 PM |
#152 |
| -
by the by - do you think all cars should have a breath analyzer in them |
The Straight Story |
Nov-10-06 05:04 PM |
#114 |
| -
for those already convicted of a dui- DEFINITELY |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 06:03 PM |
#124 |
| -
unfortunately that doesn't work |
Feron |
Nov-11-06 11:22 PM |
#186 |
| -
The kind that jacks off to Nancy Grace pictures? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 08:31 PM |
#144 |
| -
And no I think I dont think it is alright for him to drive drunk |
EdwardM |
Nov-10-06 04:46 PM |
#98 |
| -
That reasoning can be used to justify the following: |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-10-06 03:38 PM |
#65 |
| -
what a stupid post! |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:43 PM |
#93 |
| -
Listen to him, CommiePinkoDirtbag. He's apparently an expert on stupid posts. |
asthmaticeog |
Nov-11-06 10:40 AM |
#182 |
| -
They should throw your ass in jail |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-10-06 03:42 PM |
#68 |
| -
what you say doesn't mean shit. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 04:37 PM |
#86 |
| -
When someone dies because you're in a hurry, |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-10-06 07:22 PM |
#137 |
| -
i've never killed anyone because i'm in a hurry- |
QuestionAll |
Nov-10-06 09:22 PM |
#153 |
| -
Most drunk drivers never killed anyone because they were |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-10-06 11:06 PM |
#169 |
| -
"speeding" and keeping up with traffic are two completely different things... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-11-06 09:31 AM |
#176 |
| -
Not true at all. |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-11-06 10:20 AM |
#178 |
| -
i never accused you of driving drunk- |
QuestionAll |
Nov-12-06 11:17 AM |
#188 |
| -
I don't understand swaggering moralists |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-12-06 12:28 PM |
#189 |
| -
well, i've never promoted "zero-tolerance" anything... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-12-06 03:06 PM |
#193 |
| -
Well, you promoted 8 years... |
madmusic |
Nov-12-06 03:18 PM |
#195 |
| -
you're obviously mistaken... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-12-06 06:25 PM |
#196 |
| -
And that's zero tolerance... look it up. |
madmusic |
Nov-12-06 08:13 PM |
#197 |
| -
what of what i've said is: "zero tolerance"? |
QuestionAll |
Nov-12-06 09:23 PM |
#198 |
| -
What does sympathy have to do with it? |
madmusic |
Nov-12-06 09:40 PM |
#199 |
| -
so...you can't answer the question...i'll try again- |
QuestionAll |
Nov-13-06 10:21 AM |
#200 |
| -
My husband and I were almost killed by a drunk driver |
bleedingheart |
Nov-10-06 04:07 PM |
#73 |
| -
That could be... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:12 PM |
#75 |
| -
I think she deserved a year in prison |
bleedingheart |
Nov-10-06 04:47 PM |
#99 |
| -
I think that even the sentence you suggested is too light. |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 05:37 PM |
#122 |
| -
No offense, but responsible drinkers are RESPONSIBLE... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 02:23 PM |
#58 |
| -
A police state party! |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 03:29 PM |
#64 |
| -
I did mention that we had to fight him right? |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 03:39 PM |
#66 |
| -
Best wishes to your brother |
Ferret Mike |
Nov-10-06 05:29 PM |
#118 |
| -
Personally, I haven't had a ticket in almost 5 years, for any moving violation... |
Solon |
Nov-10-06 10:52 PM |
#166 |
| -
"A" DUI? |
Balbus |
Nov-10-06 04:37 PM |
#85 |
| -
lol! what # was this one? alternatively: how dark is his skin? |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-10-06 04:51 PM |
#104 |
| -
What state was he convicted in? |
tammywammy |
Nov-10-06 06:24 PM |
#129 |
| -
Is there more to the story? |
dapper |
Nov-10-06 08:06 PM |
#143 |
| -
How many did it take to get there? Did he hurt somebody? |
LeftyMom |
Nov-10-06 10:56 PM |
#167 |
| -
adds $1 billion a year in new costs to already out-of-control prison budgets |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:38 PM |
#10 |
| -
Why I Quit the Prison System |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 09:50 PM |
#12 |
| -
Strong Arm of the Law |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 10:11 PM |
#13 |
| -
Is anyone reading these? LOL. |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 10:11 PM |
#14 |
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I am ...n/t |
dougkeenan |
Nov-09-06 10:40 PM |
#16 |
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Cool, of course talking to myself isn't all that bad anyway. |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 10:43 PM |
#17 |
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I am, too. |
gulfcoastliberal |
Nov-09-06 11:53 PM |
#29 |
| -
I'm pro union as well. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 12:04 AM |
#31 |
| -
Very interesting. |
IMModerate |
Nov-10-06 01:34 AM |
#45 |
| -
Schwarzenegger And Angelides Have Abandoned Reform And Learned To Love The Powerful Prison |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 10:23 PM |
#15 |
| -
The Politics of Super-Incarceration |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 10:45 PM |
#18 |
| -
Schwarzenegger's crime-time bid |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 10:51 PM |
#19 |
| -
the same victim activists who had been ripping Schwarzenegger |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:02 PM |
#20 |
| -
A Modern Modest Proposal |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:12 PM |
#21 |
| -
A prison boom fueled by parolees |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:26 PM |
#22 |
| -
prison guards kill inmates at a rate 1135 times above the national average |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:29 PM |
#23 |
| -
repeal the three-strikes law, and legalize pot... |
QuestionAll |
Nov-09-06 11:32 PM |
#24 |
| -
Something tells me you owe the state a few years in prison. |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:37 PM |
#27 |
| -
the state’s powerful prison guards union, showed Schwarzenegger with an 11-point lead. |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:36 PM |
#26 |
| -
Defending Justice is an Activist Resource Kit that helps progressive activists understand and resist |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:46 PM |
#28 |
| -
Why We Focus on the Right, the State, and the System |
madmusic |
Nov-09-06 11:54 PM |
#30 |
| -
Which side are you on, boys? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 12:16 AM |
#32 |
| -
The Social Construction of Drug Scares |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 12:19 AM |
#33 |
| -
THE STATE OF MIND OF CALIFORNIA VOTERS IN 1993 AND 1994 |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 12:38 AM |
#34 |
| -
What a racquet-pleaing to keep the bucks flowing to the prison corporations...Arnold will agree.... |
GreenTea |
Nov-10-06 12:48 AM |
#35 |
| -
Fear sells. Just ask Karl Rove |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 12:57 AM |
#36 |
| -
Prison Guard Union Too Powerful |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:09 AM |
#38 |
| -
Why is that one of the ONLY union recognized among republicans? |
LaPera |
Nov-10-06 01:25 AM |
#40 |
| -
You mean, why do they think it is a "good" union rather than liberal? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:40 AM |
#47 |
| -
What some freepers say... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:22 AM |
#39 |
| -
What other freepers say... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:31 AM |
#43 |
| -
Criminal Neglect |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:36 AM |
#46 |
| -
Prison guards union launches TV attack on Schwarzenegger reforms |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:29 PM |
#49 |
| -
Lawsuits drive prison operations in California |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:34 PM |
#50 |
| -
Prison watchdog wants Schwarzenegger aides to testify under oath |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:37 PM |
#51 |
| -
Legalize illicit drugs |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 01:41 PM |
#52 |
| -
Agree, or at least make them a civil, public health issue... |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 02:41 PM |
#59 |
| -
The pandering pair - When all else fails, build more prisons |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:42 PM |
#53 |
| -
Governor has a mixed record on prison reform |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 01:58 PM |
#54 |
| -
Crooks With Self-Esteem |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 02:05 PM |
#55 |
| -
'Prison Yard Bully' Poses Election Year Puzzle For Schwarzenegger |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 02:15 PM |
#56 |
| -
What a waste |
sweetheart |
Nov-10-06 03:46 PM |
#70 |
| -
Should one union be on control of elections? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:28 PM |
#79 |
| -
California prisons are about torture |
sweetheart |
Nov-10-06 07:01 PM |
#132 |
| -
They are like the mortician who owns the bar at the top of the mountain. |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 07:31 PM |
#140 |
| -
Arnold Likely to Maintain Power: But can he win? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:25 PM |
#78 |
| -
Schwarzenegger administration seems to have abandoned attempts at prison reform |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 04:34 PM |
#81 |
| -
Release non-violent offenders |
Ferret Mike |
Nov-10-06 05:30 PM |
#119 |
| -
sorry, self-delete |
spoony |
Nov-10-06 06:34 PM |
#130 |
| -
Report slams governor on prisons |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 07:05 PM |
#133 |
| -
Ex-guard to be state's lead negotiator with prison guards association |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 07:11 PM |
#135 |
| -
If you read these, do you think the union controls CA politics? |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 07:29 PM |
#139 |
| -
A crazy ruling on a crazy deal |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 07:37 PM |
#141 |
| -
Bermúdez case underscores deeper malaise in Capitol politics |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 07:41 PM |
#142 |
| -
Release all marijuana offenders |
martymar64 |
Nov-10-06 09:34 PM |
#155 |
| -
But, then, there'd be Jambands everywhere! |
impeachdubya |
Nov-10-06 10:31 PM |
#163 |
| -
Those are some mean looking mug shots! |
madmusic |
Nov-10-06 11:40 PM |
#172 |
| -
I agree. Even 1% of California's prison population is a large number. |
impeachdubya |
Nov-11-06 12:16 AM |
#173 |
| -
Here's a solution! |
bluedigger |
Nov-10-06 09:49 PM |
#157 |
| -
We need a better prison system, not more prisons |
Ayesha |
Nov-11-06 01:51 AM |
#175 |
| -
The CCPOA might call you a moonbat liberal. Not "tough on crime." |
madmusic |
Nov-11-06 12:02 PM |
#184 |
| -
"beverly hills thats where i wanta be" |
sweetheart |
Nov-11-06 10:42 AM |
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