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Thu Nov-09-06 10:18 PM
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| 52. It's about Equal Rights... |
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You don't support anything but your own interests when I read your post above. I'm sorry, but, in my own opinion-not really knowing why your principal's "feelings" were the way they were, if the youth organization was anti equal rights in any form, my child wouldn't be involved.
"Hetero's have no reason to support Gays (no apostrophe)."
Yes I do. I support equal rights because it could be my son, daughter, neighbor, niece, nephew, or even your son that I am supporting. Walk a mile greblc.
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| -Do we have a chance to change attitudes toward gays? |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 06:19 PM |
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I think the most important thing to do is to convince people that being gay is not a lifestyle |
Sapere aude |
Nov-09-06 06:22 PM |
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So how do we do that? |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 06:41 PM |
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Tell them. Face to face. |
baby_mouse |
Nov-09-06 07:47 PM |
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Will they believe you ... |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 08:00 PM |
#33 |
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It may depend on how you approach it |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-09-06 10:11 PM |
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Absolutely |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-09-06 10:16 PM |
#51 |
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Bullshit. That's the most irrelevant issue in the whole shebang. |
BlooInBloo |
Nov-09-06 07:59 PM |
#32 |
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Lifestyle choice or not |
OnionPatch |
Nov-10-06 08:33 AM |
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And convince them to quit USING THE DAMNED WORD!!! |
eridani |
Nov-10-06 08:40 AM |
#126 |
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Haggard's letter to his church |
iwillalwayswonderwhy |
Nov-10-06 09:23 AM |
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only if anti-gays cannot make money off it or fear monger it |
msongs |
Nov-09-06 06:23 PM |
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But those are the leaders. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 06:48 PM |
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wasn't the issue more of hypocrisy than being gay? |
nini |
Nov-09-06 06:24 PM |
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You are absolutely right. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 06:47 PM |
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Well, look at this |
skiddlybop |
Nov-09-06 06:52 PM |
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Fascinating. Thanks for posting this! |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 06:55 PM |
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That is very interesting. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:00 PM |
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good article.. |
nini |
Nov-09-06 08:40 PM |
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I don't think so. |
RoccoR5955 |
Nov-09-06 06:26 PM |
#4 |
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I am sorry for the way they have treated you at work. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 06:55 PM |
#14 |
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From everything I have heard |
RoccoR5955 |
Nov-09-06 07:13 PM |
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Oh yeah?!?!?!?! |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:27 PM |
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Well, one can hope. |
terrya |
Nov-09-06 06:26 PM |
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I often wonder if that is us or infiltrators. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:14 PM |
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It's the word "marriage" that bothers them |
HockeyMom |
Nov-09-06 06:27 PM |
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Exactly. You're not going to see traditional Catholic or other |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 06:49 PM |
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There are probably as many, if not more, gay couples |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-09-06 09:58 PM |
#46 |
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I like your thoughts, HockeyMom. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:03 PM |
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unification contract |
sandnsea |
Nov-09-06 09:35 PM |
#44 |
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Damn straight. |
klook |
Nov-10-06 08:10 AM |
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If it's the word "marriage" that bothers them, why are they passing amendments that include banning |
readmoreoften |
Nov-10-06 05:33 PM |
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Thank you for writing this. I just think to myself, you know, |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 06:41 PM |
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I get it but I wish everyone else did. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:30 PM |
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The issue will take care of itself as old people die off |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-09-06 07:06 PM |
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It's why I usually drive on the sidewalk when I see groups of older |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 07:14 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHA.............. ..huh hehehe. ... |
zyguh |
Nov-09-06 10:02 PM |
#48 |
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I'm happy I made you laugh. I, as well, have not felt this good in |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 10:18 PM |
#53 |
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I so didnt mean to take away from this serious discussion |
zyguh |
Nov-09-06 10:48 PM |
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lol. It appeared out of place, but all of us are celebrating our victory, |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 11:01 PM |
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LOL |
Nicole |
Nov-09-06 11:01 PM |
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... |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-10-06 02:28 AM |
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Exactly, when right-wing boomers start dying it will become less of an issue. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-09-06 07:43 PM |
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I do not think gays should have to wait until all the old people die off. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:57 PM |
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Yes! |
MuseRider |
Nov-09-06 07:08 PM |
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I am glad to see others fighting the fight as well. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 08:14 PM |
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Exposure tends to eliminate irrational fears and prejudices. |
porphyrian |
Nov-09-06 07:08 PM |
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Fascinating thread (I'm only halfway through it). |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-09-06 07:20 PM |
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Sapphocrat...... |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 07:42 PM |
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... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 03:31 AM |
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This post deserves its own recommendation |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-10-06 04:00 AM |
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Thank you, BTFS! |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:20 AM |
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Sapphocrat...... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 06:13 AM |
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No worries, and no pressure. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 06:39 AM |
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Fabulous post! |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-10-06 06:14 AM |
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Thank you, tHp... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 06:41 AM |
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A Must-Read Post! |
ThomCat |
Nov-10-06 07:38 AM |
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Sapphocrat..... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 01:24 PM |
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Nice job with this Sapph. There is no question your sword is your pen! |
cboy4 |
Nov-10-06 02:22 PM |
#174 |
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I can only speculate about this from the point |
seasonedblue |
Nov-09-06 07:34 PM |
#26 |
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Well sure |
SouthernBelle82 |
Nov-09-06 07:38 PM |
#27 |
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SouthernBelle..... |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 08:13 PM |
#34 |
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Step one: Our party needs to embrace all of its members and not |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-09-06 08:23 PM |
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I could not agree any more than I already do. |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 08:33 PM |
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No |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 09:01 PM |
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Unfortunately I see it as not choosing to but having to be in your face... |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-09-06 09:21 PM |
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I've been on th recieving end of a passive agressive Gay Man... |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 10:10 PM |
#49 |
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It's about Equal Rights... |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-09-06 10:18 PM |
#52 |
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I don't disagree with you. |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 10:59 PM |
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Then contact the cub scouts and tell them you don't support discrimination. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-10-06 02:32 AM |
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I stopped my affiliation because my church waged a campaign |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-10-06 04:14 AM |
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MrsG... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:47 AM |
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Why should gay people support Middle America? |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:41 AM |
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Hey Sapph...? |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-10-06 02:33 PM |
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Personally, I wouldn't want my kids in a group that practiced exclusion |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:40 AM |
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Oh, so you judge whether a whole class deserves equal rights based on |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 10:30 PM |
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I'm playing devils advocate. |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:06 PM |
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Greblc, I'm concerned about you. In the post your structured, it |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 11:19 PM |
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If I could pass a Gay Marriage Amendment Today I would. |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:46 PM |
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No, that's not what you're doing |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:12 AM |
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Read all my posts in context not just one. |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:50 PM |
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I did -- and I still don't trust your motive in these posts |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:15 AM |
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I'm assuming you mean Boy Scouts. |
donco6 |
Nov-09-06 10:43 PM |
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His school? |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:09 PM |
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Um |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-10-06 12:58 AM |
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Here's why: because he's not the problem, the scouts' policy is. |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 08:51 AM |
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So, one principal doesn't let in the Boy Scouts and the civil rights of people |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:32 PM |
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Because your gay friends and neighbors |
sgcase |
Nov-10-06 03:09 PM |
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So you're saying, |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-09-06 10:57 PM |
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Let me answer for him: |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 11:03 PM |
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Not me, not everyone. |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:10 PM |
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Wrong |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:16 AM |
#103 |
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I disagree |
Nicole |
Nov-09-06 10:59 PM |
#62 |
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I agree. |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:17 PM |
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Thank You! This is the insightful reply... |
greblc |
Nov-09-06 11:57 PM |
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So if a black man pisses you off |
Der Blaue Engel |
Nov-10-06 12:24 AM |
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I see where your going. |
greblc |
Nov-10-06 12:38 AM |
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If the principal were black |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-10-06 01:00 AM |
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By his "logic," yes |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:17 AM |
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! |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:36 PM |
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I understand the point you're trying to make |
Der Blaue Engel |
Nov-10-06 01:19 AM |
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It's not that simple. |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 07:56 AM |
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You're absolutely correct. It's no different n/t |
cboy4 |
Nov-10-06 02:24 AM |
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So, your experience... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 04:20 AM |
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Breaking down his "logical post" like that REALLY exposes it for what it is |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:20 AM |
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Your post is AMAZING! |
ThomCat |
Nov-10-06 07:48 AM |
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Bravo. |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 07:50 AM |
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Heteros have no reason to support gays? Are you NUTS? |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 08:34 AM |
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"Heteros have no reason to support gays? Are you NUTS?" |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:51 PM |
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"Again I support Gay Marriage." |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:26 PM |
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After two years and one day, I have to say, this is one of the most |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:43 PM |
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I think Rosa Parks' actions could have been ..... |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 09:47 PM |
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Can you cite examples and define what you see as the "in your |
cboy4 |
Nov-09-06 10:01 PM |
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Read post 49 # |
greblc |
Nov-10-06 12:20 AM |
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Gay people didn't turn scouting into a hate group. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:35 AM |
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To the contrary. The principle is being fair to all the students. |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:27 AM |
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greblc...... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 05:35 PM |
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On religion... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:19 AM |
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So, let me be clear . . . |
donco6 |
Nov-09-06 10:46 PM |
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I think Marriage is the Fast Track. |
greblc |
Nov-10-06 12:25 AM |
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No, no, don! |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:23 AM |
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The "in your face attitude"? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-09-06 10:52 PM |
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Relax I'm on your side |
greblc |
Nov-10-06 12:42 AM |
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No you're not -- friends/advocates don't write posts like yours |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:26 AM |
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Now, THIS... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:24 AM |
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Agreed! |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:26 AM |
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"Would you have told MLK Jr. to stop his "in your face" tactics?" |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:24 AM |
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Nov-10-06 06:31 AM |
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"90% naked, tongue kissing his GLBT lover" |
marmar |
Nov-10-06 08:14 AM |
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It's not OK when straights do it, either |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 09:06 AM |
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Damn, that's a great post! |
ThomCat |
Nov-10-06 09:40 AM |
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"Swingvoter" huh? |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 08:46 AM |
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Nov-10-06 09:10 AM |
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Funny thing - you don't even aspire to be fair. |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:14 AM |
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Nov-10-06 09:18 AM |
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"Tight community?" |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 09:20 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-10-06 09:21 AM |
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You have some funny perceptions. I wonder if you'd shrug off inequality |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:24 AM |
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How do you know you've had more exposure than most? |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:49 PM |
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You're making shit up. I am gay and I don't know a single person who has |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:22 AM |
#145 |
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If I hear "life's not fair" one more time . . . |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 09:24 AM |
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Indeed. The point of law is to BE fair - not to compound life's inequities. |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:25 AM |
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Who's hurting which cause again? |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 03:54 PM |
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Sapphocrat..... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:02 PM |
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It had nothing to do with hetero sex practices, demgurl. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 07:57 PM |
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Sapphocrat..... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 08:05 PM |
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Thanks to you. |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 09:17 AM |
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You wouldn't be the first to make that guess. |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:42 PM |
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And yet MLK was arrested. So were others who fought for civil rights. |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:28 AM |
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Congrats! You were able to fill this post with almost every single |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 09:58 AM |
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Keyword, "almost" |
Jamastiene |
Nov-10-06 10:55 AM |
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You're a very embittered homosexual squirrel lover, Jamastiene |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 12:25 PM |
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Assless chaps!!! ASSLESS CHAPS!!! |
swimboy |
Nov-10-06 02:22 PM |
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Hey, you need to be quiet and just worry about your strap on. |
cboy4 |
Nov-10-06 02:21 PM |
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Excuse me, but you sound like someone from the 60's who argued |
cboy4 |
Nov-10-06 02:18 PM |
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OK, let's have that dialogue... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 03:09 PM |
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There is no so-called "in your face" attitude of "gay activists" |
LostinVA |
Nov-10-06 06:10 AM |
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As in most things, extremism often poisons the well water |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 06:25 AM |
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WTF? |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 08:03 AM |
#119 |
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I'm talking about winning broader support |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 08:59 AM |
#132 |
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This is just a typical RW red herring. |
donco6 |
Nov-10-06 09:13 AM |
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I'll make you a deal - I'll control the behavior of that minority of gays right |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 09:16 AM |
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See post #141 |
SwingVoter2006 |
Nov-10-06 09:20 AM |
#143 |
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Um okay |
thecorrection |
Nov-10-06 08:52 AM |
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Nov-10-06 09:15 AM |
#138 |
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So, is it you who gets to define "normality?" |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 01:54 PM |
#169 |
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But we ARE fucking normal, Blanche! We ARE FUCKING NORMAL!!! |
swimboy |
Nov-10-06 02:28 PM |
#175 |
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O.M.G. |
haruka3_2000 |
Nov-10-06 02:35 PM |
#177 |
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You get back exactly what you put out. |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-10-06 05:23 PM |
#182 |
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Education is Key |
thecorrection |
Nov-09-06 09:17 PM |
#40 |
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I really respect your perspective.... |
demgurl |
Nov-09-06 09:33 PM |
#43 |
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I'm glad this discussion is taking place |
thecorrection |
Nov-10-06 06:44 AM |
#113 |
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That is sad. |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:19 PM |
#186 |
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Yes, of course we do... |
Withywindle |
Nov-09-06 09:28 PM |
#42 |
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Surprisingly, AZ voted down the 'gay marriage' proposition |
tyedyeto |
Nov-09-06 10:49 PM |
#58 |
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Attitudes towards gays have changed over time |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-09-06 11:02 PM |
#65 |
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BTFS.... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:23 PM |
#187 |
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One would think that after so many of "darlings of the RW and Christian right |
wholetruth00 |
Nov-10-06 05:36 AM |
#95 |
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Shame on you, wholetruthOO..... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:27 PM |
#188 |
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I think the attitude change will ultimately take care of itself |
theboss |
Nov-10-06 07:57 AM |
#118 |
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the under 40 crowd - yes |
FLDem5 |
Nov-10-06 08:11 AM |
#121 |
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Of course, this is a civil rights movement.... |
Virginia Dare |
Nov-10-06 08:28 AM |
#123 |
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Of Course..... |
new_beawr |
Nov-10-06 08:42 AM |
#127 |
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give up a wedge issue? |
Alpharetta |
Nov-10-06 08:49 AM |
#129 |
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Straight WASPS will be the minority very soon. |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:35 PM |
#189 |
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As the old saying goes ... |
Akoto |
Nov-10-06 09:11 AM |
#135 |
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Get rid of all of the Jesusians... |
StraightDope |
Nov-10-06 10:17 AM |
#155 |
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StraightDope...... |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:48 PM |
#190 |
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Here's my thoughts about what might happen |
Armstead |
Nov-10-06 10:24 AM |
#156 |
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What I hope would come of this is that people would just give up on the lie |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-06 10:53 AM |
#157 |
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homophobia sickens me |
mattfromnossa |
Nov-10-06 01:54 PM |
#168 |
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When I was in high school, I had no idea what a gay was. |
hedgehog |
Nov-10-06 02:00 PM |
#170 |
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I like to think so to, but there are days on DU that just sicken me to no end. |
Kerrytravelers |
Nov-10-06 05:07 PM |
#181 |
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hedgehog, I hope you are right. |
demgurl |
Nov-10-06 07:56 PM |
#192 |
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Straight teachers, instructors, educators, this is what we can do: |
Sabriel |
Nov-10-06 07:50 PM |
#191 |
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