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Sun Jan-29-06 01:39 PM
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| 33. that is too simplistic. |
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Mere majorities never are the final answer.
2/3s of the congress is necessary for some vote.
the president has a veto.
the VP has a vote in a tied senate.
A minority is permitted to tie up business to prevent greater wrongs and the madness of crowds.
If your position is Obama's then he simply does not understand his roll as senator. It is not to make friends and influence people, it is to protect the constitution. it means taking brave steps, rather than pandering to the right. It means taking a stand regardless of the opposition if that is what is required.
Obama is scared of his own shadow. I am thinking more often that he is way out of his league.
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| -This Obama bashing is immature, listen to what he is saying. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:14 PM |
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I listened and he is wrong. |
benburch |
Jan-29-06 01:17 PM |
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I'm listening to you, Ben |
globalvillage |
Jan-29-06 01:26 PM |
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Our enemy will do anything, procedural, factual, deceitful to win |
antifaschits |
Jan-29-06 01:35 PM |
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Alot of people here are in crash & burn mode |
William769 |
Jan-29-06 01:18 PM |
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Nope let's purget the Dino now. HE's no good. HEs done NOTHING for us |
xultar |
Jan-29-06 01:19 PM |
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I had a heart attack Xultar, you are being sarcastic. . .right. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:22 PM |
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I don't mean to put a fright on ya. But you know that's how they sound. |
xultar |
Jan-29-06 01:28 PM |
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Yup. . .this is silly. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:31 PM |
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What always shocks me is how many "liberals" and "Democrats" here on DU |
AZBlue |
Jan-29-06 08:52 PM |
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How many pukes do |
raysr |
Jan-29-06 01:20 PM |
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He can have his reasons but there is a time to shut up. He's a jr. |
henslee |
Jan-29-06 01:21 PM |
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You are trying to limit his freedom of speech as a senator? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-29-06 01:25 PM |
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Not limiting his FOS, just exercising mine. |
henslee |
Jan-29-06 01:31 PM |
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Saying Forcefully He Should Shut Up and That he doesn't have as much right |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-29-06 01:35 PM |
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The GOP Sens will always line up behind a Bush nominee |
BlueManDude |
Jan-29-06 01:22 PM |
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Kinda like "If Dean isn't the nominee... |
Gman |
Jan-29-06 01:22 PM |
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I agree with him as well. Do what we gotta do, but it is a shame. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-29-06 01:22 PM |
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Exactly |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:24 PM |
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Sucks to win on a procedural vote? |
Moochy |
Jan-29-06 01:23 PM |
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And I wish John Kerry was president as he should be since they |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jan-29-06 06:05 PM |
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The GOP did it all the time and didn't wring their hands about it |
BlueManDude |
Jan-29-06 01:24 PM |
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So now we live down to the GOP standards. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:26 PM |
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that is too simplistic. |
antifaschits |
Jan-29-06 01:39 PM |
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they need to win 7 elections in the next 24 hours to get the votes |
BlueManDude |
Jan-29-06 01:41 PM |
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And when that single mother hears the Democrats stood in the way . . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:48 PM |
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The GOP doesn't care what the WaPo or the NYT Times says |
BlueManDude |
Jan-29-06 02:19 PM |
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It's not a good position to be in, but |
globalvillage |
Jan-29-06 01:25 PM |
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thank you - filibuster is a legitimate tool against the tyranny of the |
emulatorloo |
Jan-29-06 01:31 PM |
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No one is saying the filibuster is not legitimate. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 01:36 PM |
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Keep this thread kicked-too many confusing posts on Obama's position. This |
Wordie |
Jan-29-06 01:29 PM |
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Let's talk about "procedural maneuvers" |
TahitiNut |
Jan-29-06 01:31 PM |
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Jan-29-06 01:33 PM |
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Well obviously I'd prefer to defeat Alito with an "upperdown" vote too |
PBass |
Jan-29-06 01:40 PM |
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"...over-reliance on the part of Democrats"- LOL |
depakid |
Jan-29-06 01:32 PM |
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The problem is that he is wrong |
Mass |
Jan-29-06 01:33 PM |
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It sounds pretty clear to me... |
fooj |
Jan-29-06 01:33 PM |
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"Dogpile on the rabbit! Dogpile on the rabbit!" |
mac56 |
Jan-29-06 01:35 PM |
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maybe he should act more like the junior senator that he is |
depakid |
Jan-29-06 01:40 PM |
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So he's playing both sides |
omega minimo |
Jan-29-06 01:37 PM |
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If the stakes are worth it, then it's worth using the rules to do what |
John Q. Citizen |
Jan-29-06 01:38 PM |
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I think what got many DU'ers Upset...was.."I'm not happy about it." |
KoKo01 |
Jan-29-06 05:35 PM |
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Jan-29-06 05:39 PM |
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Excellent point, olderbroder. |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-29-06 06:15 PM |
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At least ScAlito made it out of committee! That's more than we can say |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 06:02 PM |
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This is where you don't get it. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 06:07 PM |
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I know he's supporting the filibuster at the same time he talks out |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 06:21 PM |
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Again you are not paying attention to what he said and just reacting. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 06:30 PM |
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Who ever said they had enough support for the nuclear option? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 07:03 PM |
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You are too funny "Obama needs to accept that fact too" |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 07:05 PM |
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Why is that funny? You said..... |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 07:40 PM |
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It is a sign of weakness, a sign of being in the minority party. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 07:47 PM |
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yes, but that is not how he came across on This Week this morning. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 08:03 PM |
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So you did not here him say this |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 08:29 PM |
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Of course I heard that and he should have said more. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 08:44 PM |
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Who is his core constituency? |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 08:47 PM |
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The people who elected him? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 08:54 PM |
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The people of Chicago, Oak Park, Gurnee, Marion, East St. Louis, Champaign |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 09:08 PM |
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And your point is? n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 09:17 PM |
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You talk about Obama's core constituency and then the people who voted. . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 09:23 PM |
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Windy, you DO realize that some feel compelled to bash Obama? |
davsand |
Jan-29-06 08:50 PM |
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Thanks. . . |
wndycty |
Jan-29-06 08:57 PM |
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He's still wrong |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jan-29-06 06:03 PM |
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Vote in the filibuster comment poll |
olderbroder |
Jan-29-06 06:04 PM |
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It's not HOW you win |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jan-29-06 08:00 PM |
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ESPECIALLY THIS battle! It's way too important. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 08:45 PM |
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It is HOW you win as well |
Perky |
Jan-29-06 08:53 PM |
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Then perhaps Obama should have spent his 10-15 minutes of air time |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 09:07 PM |
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If this is lost, then so is the war. |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jan-29-06 11:25 PM |
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He's right. It would be a win and a loss. |
AZBlue |
Jan-29-06 08:56 PM |
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Jan-29-06 09:04 PM |
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You don't want to go there with me. TRUST ME. Do you want my list |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-29-06 09:16 PM |
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Bashing? |
Moochy |
Jan-30-06 02:29 AM |
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it's called a 55-45 majority |
dusmcj |
Jan-29-06 11:17 PM |
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Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. |
MrsGrumpy |
Jan-30-06 04:42 AM |
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