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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:07 PM
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43. '18% of independent voters said it raised... doubts about voting... D"
"Wasn't relevant"? When an AWOL was directly impugning the concern for soldiers of a genuine war hero, not using surrogates as two years ago? A week before a crucial election, every potential bit of ammunition against Dubya is relevant, IMO.

Apparently, voters' memories -- and media news cycles -- are much shorter than two years. Foley/Predatorgate has disappeared from the headlines, and the generic Democratic advantage over Republicans has shrunk to alarming levels, apparently in large part due to Republican exploitation of Kerry's botched punchline.

From http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-05-nati... :

"President Bush's last-ditch push for votes and Sen. John Kerry's comments that seemed to denigrate the education level of U.S. forces in Iraq have helped energize GOP voters. A Democratic advantage of 23 percentage points a month ago and 13 points two weeks ago is now down to 7.

A Pew Research Center survey released Sunday also showed that an 11-point edge for Democrats on the congressional ballot two weeks ago had narrowed to 4 points among likely voters. "It's gone from a slam-dunk for Democrats to take the House to a pretty good chance," says Andy Kohut, director of the center. ... The survey of 1,362 likely voters, taken Thursday through Sunday, has a margin of error of 3 points.

The president and the war in Iraq remain at the center of this election: 36% of likely voters saying that are casting a ballot for a candidate to send a message that they oppose Bush; 20% to send a message that they support him.

What's shifted is the determination of Republicans to vote. The Democratic advantage among registered voters was 11 points, but Republican voters were more likely to be judged as sure to go to the polls, making the edge among likely voters smaller. A month ago, the Democratic margin among registered and likely voters was identical. Bush and other Republicans have warned about the perils of electing a Democratic-controlled Congress, and they also accused Kerry of belittling U.S. troops in Iraq with comments he said were a botched joke. In the Pew survey, 84% of voters said they had heard about Kerry's remark, and 18% of independent voters said it raised serious doubts about voting for a Democrat."
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  -Mary Mapes (Dan Rather Fiasco): BUSH BASICALLY DROPPED OUT OF NAT'L GUARD SERVICE >> The Cleaner  Nov-05-06 11:32 AM   #0 
  - G.W.-The Chief Cut 'n Runner. n/t  brook   Nov-05-06 11:34 AM   #1 
  - heh or Cut and Runner in Chief.  blm   Nov-05-06 11:37 AM   #4 
     - I like "Lazy, Lawbreaking Coward"  elehhhhna   Nov-05-06 03:21 PM   #31 
  - K&R... checking out her book. See links.  speedoo   Nov-05-06 11:36 AM   #2 
  - Favorable Amazon reader reviews ALREADY are being freeped,  ProgressiveEconomist   Nov-05-06 11:50 AM   #10 
  - Thanks for the reminder to buy it. Just got my own, thank you. n/t  Judi Lynn   Nov-05-06 12:05 PM   #17 
  - He was a cut and runner even then  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-06 11:37 AM   #3 
  - And we would be eternall grateful if he did  Jack Rabbit   Nov-05-06 12:11 PM   #20 
  - this is one story i do not want to see die.  xchrom   Nov-05-06 11:39 AM   #5 
  - Why didn't John Kerry use this at his news conferences?  ProgressiveEconomist   Nov-05-06 11:42 AM   #6 
  - During the campaign Kerry challenged Bush to a debate about their service  blm   Nov-05-06 12:08 PM   #19 
     - Thanks--I didn't remember that detail about the '04 campaign. But  ProgressiveEconomist   Nov-05-06 12:38 PM   #26 
        - he went after ALL those who didn't serve who attack those who did  blm   Nov-05-06 12:58 PM   #29 
        - It wasn't relevent to what was happening  karynnj   Nov-05-06 08:45 PM   #40 
           - '18% of independent voters said it raised... doubts about voting... D"  ProgressiveEconomist   Nov-05-06 10:07 PM   #43 
              - The new Gallup numbers show Dems up 20  karynnj   Nov-06-06 09:05 AM   #70 
  - He deserted his military unit to avoid a drug test - PERIOD!  BOSSHOG   Nov-05-06 11:42 AM   #7 
  - It will take them GOINIG TO JAIL  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-06 11:44 AM   #8 
  - AWOL, UA, desertion  Ezlivin   Nov-05-06 03:39 PM   #32 
  - Yep  symbolman   Nov-05-06 05:22 PM   #36 
  - The "test" involved a physician looking for damage in the nasal passages  TheBorealAvenger   Nov-06-06 06:23 AM   #48 
     - I think there was probably more to the drug test--such as urinalysis, for  No Exit   Nov-06-06 07:03 AM   #53 
     - I know urine tests for "drugs" were used by the 1980s  TheBorealAvenger   Nov-06-06 07:29 AM   #57 
        - Cocaine does show up in the  BOSSHOG   Nov-06-06 07:56 AM   #63 
           - Operation Golden Flow  MindPilot   Nov-06-06 09:00 AM   #69 
     - Simple Urine test  symbolman   Nov-06-06 03:30 PM   #76 
  - Absolutely right, Bosshog!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 07:50 AM   #62 
     - Thanks teammate  BOSSHOG   Nov-06-06 07:58 AM   #64 
     - Just read the timeline!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 08:22 AM   #67 
     - SEE THIS DIARY DEBUNKING THE "ALLEGATIONS!!"  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 08:21 AM   #66 
        - Great work!  NewYorkerfromMass   Nov-06-06 09:43 AM   #72 
           - The CBS Suspension Order represents a Real Order That WAS Written!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 03:00 PM   #75 
              - Marion Knox proved this  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 03:53 PM   #77 
                 - A question of "Framing"  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 04:54 PM   #78 
  - Would you have a link to the full interview, or were you transcribing? NT  MADem   Nov-05-06 11:50 AM   #9 
  - The Deserter-in-Chief? I kinda like that.  kestrel91316   Nov-05-06 11:53 AM   #11 
  - Liar! You can't just "drop out" of service nm  texpatriot2004   Nov-05-06 11:57 AM   #12 
  - bush did. look at the facts nm  seabeyond   Nov-05-06 12:35 PM   #25 
     - No, he's a deserter or AWOL or some other such thing but  texpatriot2004   Nov-05-06 12:50 PM   #27 
        - i think that is hte point of maple. he was allowed to drop out,,,, and yes  seabeyond   Nov-05-06 12:56 PM   #28 
           - ;-) I am sure that we are. So, he's the fortunate son who gets to  texpatriot2004   Nov-05-06 05:08 PM   #34 
  - "underground railroad" lol  Fuzz   Nov-05-06 11:58 AM   #13 
  - She's wrong. The secretary confirmed the content but disclaimed the actual document  cryingshame   Nov-05-06 12:00 PM   #14 
  - We still don't know the whole story on this  OzarkDem   Nov-05-06 12:05 PM   #15 
  - There's no way those documents were recent forgeries  starroute   Nov-05-06 12:26 PM   #21 
  - exactly n/t  28erl   Nov-05-06 12:28 PM   #22 
  - Please, let us know your objections in detail....  Bridget Burke   Nov-06-06 06:50 AM   #49 
  - Sorry, but I will believe Mapes over "Buckhead" of Freerepublic.  No Exit   Nov-06-06 07:11 AM   #55 
  - The fact * went AWOL is big, What He Did While he was AWOL is Bigger  Blackhatjack   Nov-05-06 12:05 PM   #16 
  - I wondered why the "ghetto youth" he'd helped back then....  Bridget Burke   Nov-06-06 06:52 AM   #50 
  - Apr 2005 - Mapes and Rather received the Peabody Award  truedelphi   Nov-05-06 12:05 PM   #18 
  - "Exist it did. I know. I used it." Thanks for pointing that out.  eppur_se_muova   Nov-05-06 03:05 PM   #30 
     - Some geek of a guy runs a virtual museum of  truedelphi   Nov-05-06 07:02 PM   #37 
     - But, would TANG have a MICOM or other  Virginian   Nov-06-06 12:36 AM   #44 
        - IBM Executive typewriters had Proportional Spacing....  Bridget Burke   Nov-06-06 07:01 AM   #51 
           - I used those machines, also  kskiska   Nov-06-06 09:20 AM   #71 
  - K&R  TacticalPeek   Nov-05-06 12:30 PM   #23 
  - America! Don't focus on the fonts, focus on the words and what they mean!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 07:39 AM   #60 
     - PLEASE READ THIS TIMELINE!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 07:43 AM   #61 
  - George "Cut and Run" Bush  SpiralHawk   Nov-05-06 12:31 PM   #24 
  - TTT n/t  Blue_Tires   Nov-05-06 04:11 PM   #33 
  - I was in the USAF during the time Bush  symbolman   Nov-05-06 05:16 PM   #35 
  - The RWing and their Corp, Media Moguls decided  Disturbed   Nov-05-06 07:11 PM   #38 
  - some research about those typewriters  DemReadingDU   Nov-05-06 08:26 PM   #39 
     - So Rather lost his job because some wingnut falsely claimed forgery?  Virginian   Nov-06-06 12:59 AM   #45 
     - Excellent!  symbolman   Nov-06-06 04:01 AM   #46 
  - Uh (before I read the thread) why is it a "FIASCO"? n/t  UTUSN   Nov-05-06 08:59 PM   #41 
  - Time to resurrect his original DU name: AWOL  Stephanie   Nov-05-06 09:03 PM   #42 
  - k&r  FernBell   Nov-06-06 05:15 AM   #47 
  - Mapes must read my Diary: the Bush Miltary History Project!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 07:01 AM   #52 
  - THE CBS MEMOS REPRESENT FEDERAL DOCUMENTS!!!  exlrrp   Nov-06-06 07:33 AM   #59 
  - Molly Ivins wrote about the "underground railroad" as well...  Triana   Nov-06-06 07:07 AM   #54 
  - just watched some rethug  frogcycle   Nov-06-06 07:19 AM   #56 
  - And the "retarts" that were drafted for special units that took high casualties  TheBorealAvenger   Nov-06-06 07:31 AM   #58 
  - 1972 - the year mandatory drug testing became part of flight physical.  DemoTex   Nov-06-06 08:07 AM   #65 
  - Showing up for duty was "mandatory"  NewYorkerfromMass   Nov-06-06 10:34 AM   #74 
  - little boots is still a deserter from the ANG....  emald   Nov-06-06 08:43 AM   #68 
  - Transvestite = Women as Bush = Man  TwentyFive   Nov-06-06 10:19 AM   #73 
  - Looks like Bush cut and run from the guard back in '72  WI_DEM   Nov-06-06 04:57 PM   #79 
 

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