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Response to Reply #33
38. while it isn't a complete rape, it is still a violation
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 12:45 AM by GloriaSmith
discrediting the trauma and crime of an attempted rape is like saying that a mugging didn't really happen since there was no money in your wallet.

on edit: I don't think you are discrediting the trauma and crime of an attempted rape. My response was meant for a different post. :)
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  -"If I were raped today, I would not report it " lwfern  Oct-27-06 10:04 PM   #0 
  - one of the most enduring, painful lies about women is that.....  WindRavenX   Oct-27-06 10:09 PM   #1 
  - But you (or whoever's story this is)  SheilaT   Oct-27-06 10:15 PM   #2 
  - So....you don't think that attempted rape is a crime?  readmoreoften   Oct-27-06 10:17 PM   #4 
  - Attempted rape is not exactly the same as rape.  SheilaT   Oct-28-06 12:20 AM   #29 
     - There is nothing missing from this story. What are you talking about...  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:29 AM   #32 
     - I think everyone here can agree  lwfern   Oct-28-06 12:30 AM   #33 
     - while it isn't a complete rape, it is still a violation  GloriaSmith   Oct-28-06 12:41 AM   #38 
     - Absolutely.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:57 AM   #43 
        - holy CRAP!  GloriaSmith   Oct-28-06 01:10 AM   #48 
        - I didn't feel anything.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 01:15 AM   #50 
           - I've read about the numbness factor...a self defense mechanism, right?  GloriaSmith   Oct-28-06 02:04 AM   #60 
              - Assholes. In the plural. Probably a lot.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 02:25 AM   #63 
                 - I hate Kitty Genovese syndrome.  seawolf   Oct-31-06 12:55 PM   #100 
        - I've been in a similar situation and my therapist  Jamastiene   Oct-28-06 04:57 AM   #71 
     - Yeah, so I guess  Bassic   Oct-28-06 09:41 AM   #77 
     - Smokes, beer, some rough foreplay  LostinVA   Oct-29-06 07:19 AM   #85 
        - Every time I read comments like that here  Bassic   Oct-29-06 09:00 AM   #88 
           - I know...  LostinVA   Oct-29-06 10:37 AM   #89 
     - I guess I was going from the original  SheilaT   Oct-28-06 10:51 PM   #80 
        - I know that's a hard thing to admit  lwfern   Oct-28-06 11:11 PM   #81 
     - "Attempted" Means The Woman Escaped  REP   Oct-28-06 04:41 AM   #67 
     - Attempted rape is assault.  Lindacooks   Oct-29-06 01:16 AM   #82 
     - Actually, it can be a lot worse emotionally.  Ms. Toad   Oct-31-06 06:19 PM   #110 
        - Thanks for adding your thoughts here  lwfern   Oct-31-06 07:20 PM   #111 
  - How bad does it have to be?  Warpy   Oct-27-06 10:44 PM   #6 
  - Uhm, it is still sexual assault under the law.  Jamastiene   Oct-28-06 04:53 AM   #69 
  - In very few circumstances would I report a rape to police.  readmoreoften   Oct-27-06 10:16 PM   #3 
  - Yep, I've seen the system, too  lwfern   Oct-27-06 10:25 PM   #5 
  - How many women are missing across America who were last seen  hedgehog   Oct-27-06 10:46 PM   #7 
  - I was sexually assaulted in a hotel after a networking convention.  readmoreoften   Oct-27-06 11:06 PM   #10 
     - I'll bet 3/5 of female DUers have been assaulted  alittlelark   Oct-27-06 11:24 PM   #16 
        - My partner is the only women I've ever met who hasn't been raped/molested  readmoreoften   Oct-27-06 11:44 PM   # 
        - She may have been assaulted as well....  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 12:01 AM   #23 
           - Well, my girlfriend isn't lying to me. We've been together for almost 4 years.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:05 AM   #25 
              - I was just stating a statistically likely hypothesis.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 12:14 AM   #28 
        - I was never raped or molested  malaise   Oct-28-06 04:44 AM   #68 
           - neither were any of my siblings, cousins or close friends.  LostinVA   Oct-29-06 07:21 AM   #86 
  - Well I was raped a long time ago....  demgurl   Oct-27-06 10:53 PM   #8 
  - I'm sorry that happened to you.  lwfern   Oct-27-06 11:08 PM   #11 
     - Thank you for your kind words.  demgurl   Oct-29-06 08:58 AM   #87 
        - I had a uncle with arm around me incident too and when I told my  donsu   Oct-29-06 11:13 AM   #90 
           - I'm glad your mother believed you and was supportive  lwfern   Oct-29-06 03:05 PM   #92 
           - Wow!!!!!!  demgurl   Oct-30-06 07:58 PM   #96 
  - in my mind...rape...  stillcool47   Oct-27-06 11:03 PM   #9 
  - I won't go to the police, but I'll tell you what... I'll give a running list  readmoreoften   Oct-27-06 11:11 PM   #12 
  - That's Not a Guarantee  REP   Oct-27-06 11:50 PM   #20 
  - I'm sorry for your struggle.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:31 AM   #34 
     - Not a Struggle, Exactly  REP   Oct-28-06 04:35 AM   #66 
  - Interestingly...  susanna   Oct-29-06 01:44 AM   #83 
  - This is normal  AlienGirl   Oct-27-06 11:16 PM   #14 
     - ah...the power of words  stillcool47   Oct-27-06 11:39 PM   #17 
        - You're welcome, I have read a lot about the effects of trauma  AlienGirl   Oct-27-06 11:46 PM   #19 
           - the hardest part for me..  stillcool47   Oct-28-06 12:09 AM   #27 
              - Understanding the abusers as something other than monsters is really, really hard  AlienGirl   Oct-28-06 12:22 AM   #31 
                 - Sometimes it's good to keep them monsters.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:37 AM   #36 
  - Reporting it to the police will give you a much better result down the road.  alittlelark   Oct-27-06 11:14 PM   #13 
  - It's not so much "scared"  lwfern   Oct-27-06 11:17 PM   #15 
     - The victim will do much better down the road if she/he reports  alittlelark   Oct-27-06 11:58 PM   #22 
        - The people I know that tried using the system  lwfern   Oct-28-06 12:03 AM   #24 
           - It is degrading and horrifying.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 12:20 AM   #30 
              - I guess it's perspective - I'd be helping them get evidence and  donsu   Oct-29-06 11:18 AM   #91 
                 - Then you haven't been there.  alittlelark   Oct-29-06 09:44 PM   #94 
                    - no I haven't been there but I do know I would be in a rage to get the  donsu   Oct-30-06 10:58 AM   #95 
                       - You seem to be missing the point.  alittlelark   Oct-31-06 12:32 AM   #98 
                          - I've never thought a ob-gyn exam was bad - what's bad about it?  donsu   Oct-31-06 12:40 PM   #99 
                             - Uh, no profile.... are you a female?  alittlelark   Nov-01-06 01:05 AM   #112 
                                - yes I'm a woman and I've produced 2 babies and nurtured them to  donsu   Nov-01-06 12:04 PM   #113 
  - The "blame the victim" mentality is very much alive even today  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Oct-27-06 11:44 PM   #18 
  - I probably couldn't sit on a rape jury  krispos42   Oct-27-06 11:58 PM   #21 
  - You are one of the 20% or so of men who 'get it'.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 12:09 AM   #26 
  - Not to be picky, but that's runs a little counter to this thread.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:35 AM   #35 
  - I'll stick w/ personality disorders.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 12:47 AM   #39 
     - What do you mean, get ahold of the situation?  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 12:55 AM   #42 
     - I took that to mean if you are in a relationship  lwfern   Oct-28-06 01:09 AM   #47 
     - 'rape-proof' not possible.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 01:34 AM   #53 
        - I have been in numerous situations where I was assaulted.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 02:30 AM   #64 
     - What Shit!!  bobbolink   Oct-30-06 08:05 PM   #97 
  - Damn, it's only 20%?  krispos42   Oct-28-06 12:40 AM   #37 
  - 'Perpetual victims' need to enroll in Aikido.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 12:51 AM   #40 
  - Honest questions:  CarbonDate   Oct-28-06 12:53 AM   #41 
     - My guess would be  lwfern   Oct-28-06 12:58 AM   #44 
     - I don't typically run with misogynists.  CarbonDate   Oct-28-06 01:38 AM   #54 
        - If you're in the military  lwfern   Oct-28-06 01:46 AM   #56 
     - I described it as a 'male issue'  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 01:02 AM   #45 
        - I don't see it as a left/right issue  lwfern   Oct-28-06 01:05 AM   #46 
        - I don't see it as one either.  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 01:15 AM   #49 
        - Did you notice that I didn't dispute it?  CarbonDate   Oct-28-06 01:18 AM   #51 
           - one of the first things to learn  lwfern   Oct-28-06 01:32 AM   #52 
           - Thank you for your understanding.  CarbonDate   Oct-28-06 01:44 AM   #55 
           - Do you laugh at jokes w/ females as the crux?  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 01:53 AM   #57 
           - I'm trying to answer your first question....  CarbonDate   Oct-28-06 02:21 AM   #61 
           - I just noticed that you have no profile...  alittlelark   Oct-28-06 01:54 AM   #59 
              - No, I don't.  CarbonDate   Oct-28-06 02:22 AM   #62 
  - Rape is on par with attempt murder  Pavulon   Oct-28-06 09:39 AM   #76 
  - It is a violent assault. Deadly self-defense force is legal  krispos42   Oct-28-06 11:51 AM   #78 
  - I was on a rape jury. What an education  stanwyck   Oct-31-06 03:58 PM   #107 
     - That's incredibly disturbing.  lwfern   Oct-31-06 04:43 PM   #108 
     - In two words: Self protection  Ms. Toad   Oct-31-06 06:15 PM   #109 
  - I applaud her for speaking up  The Brethren   Oct-28-06 01:53 AM   #58 
  - Ghosts of the Duke case?  kgfnally   Oct-28-06 02:31 AM   #65 
  - I don't think we'll ever actually know what happened ...  etherealtruth   Oct-28-06 06:00 AM   #73 
  - I suspect the case is heading for dismissal...  NorthernSpy   Oct-31-06 02:18 PM   #105 
  - I can understand the sentinment  Red Right and BLUE   Oct-28-06 04:54 AM   #70 
  - If I think I'm going to be raped by the system, there's no way I'm reporting.  readmoreoften   Oct-28-06 05:15 AM   #72 
     - I don't like cops any more than other people who are wary of them  Red Right and BLUE   Oct-28-06 07:11 AM   #74 
     - The stranger rape that I know of  lwfern   Oct-28-06 09:34 AM   #75 
  - I would never report it  lukasahero   Oct-28-06 02:31 PM   #79 
  - Threads like this make me feel terrible.  Evoman   Oct-29-06 03:29 AM   #84 
  - I wouldn't report either, cuz I'd be dead.  bobbolink   Oct-29-06 03:08 PM   #93 
  - Sorry, but that's a stupid choice.  seawolf   Oct-31-06 01:07 PM   #101 
     - While I'm not arguing  bloom   Oct-31-06 01:44 PM   #103 
        - Leverage is not an issue here.  seawolf   Oct-31-06 03:27 PM   #106 
  - I was almost date-raped in 1969 (fortunately, I got away from him),  Daphne08   Oct-31-06 01:16 PM   #102 
  - Just what the hell does she WANT? Automatic conviction of the accused?  NorthernSpy   Oct-31-06 02:00 PM   #104 
 

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