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Reply #33: Read this before you jump to conclusions about "incest" [View All]

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33. Read this before you jump to conclusions about "incest"
ABSTRACT: Child rearing practices in the the Telugu-speaking people of India include behaviors of touching and kissing the penis. The meaning of these customs is not erotic or sexual, but if engaged in in America would most likely be misconstrued and the parents suspected of child sexual abuse. This example illustrates the importance of transcultural issues in assessing the meaning of genital gestures and practices.

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume3/j3_4_4.htm

I am not saying Webb had this in mind, but there may be something else going on here than appears at first glance.
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  Drudge is smearing Webb on his site right now: underage sex scenes in novels Herman Munster  Oct-26-06 08:04 PM   #0 
   Not a "love story", but underage incest...  DesertRat   Oct-26-06 08:06 PM   #1 
   let's see -- someone on du has a list  xchrom   Oct-26-06 08:07 PM   #2 
   Now also don't forget  SouthernBelle82   Oct-26-06 08:41 PM   #39 
   Scooter Libby  karynnj   Oct-26-06 08:45 PM   #49 
   Here it is  Bleachers7   Oct-26-06 09:04 PM   #74 
      cool -- thank you!  xchrom   Oct-26-06 10:33 PM   #125 
   I dont get it  olkaz   Oct-26-06 08:08 PM   #3 
   You have to wonder who vets these candidates  enough already   Oct-26-06 08:57 PM   #62 
      Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-26-06 10:06 PM   #98 
      I often wonder the same thing.  John Gauger   Oct-26-06 10:26 PM   #119 
         Dean was our best chance at victory  enough already   Oct-26-06 10:58 PM   #132 
   That scene is a "love story"?! Oy.  WinkyDink   Oct-26-06 08:08 PM   #4 
   It just doesnt seem possible that nobody could have noticed this up until now.... nm  olkaz   Oct-26-06 08:13 PM   #8 
      see post #16  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:19 PM   #19 
   What kind of book is that?  John Gauger   Oct-26-06 08:09 PM   #5 
   it's about Vietnam  MattNC   Oct-26-06 08:13 PM   #7 
      Didn't Webb serve?  Rockstone   Oct-26-06 08:29 PM   #27 
         yepp  MattNC   Oct-26-06 08:34 PM   #32 
   boy they really are digging, aren't they. i smell DESPERATION.  greeneyedboy   Oct-26-06 08:12 PM   #6 
   Maybe "desperate", but it's going to work  enough already   Oct-26-06 08:59 PM   #64 
      *yawn*  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:07 PM   #100 
      TOO SUBTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 10:10 PM   #106 
      Come on, a softer touch, something like this:  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:28 PM   #121 
   Add it to Scooter Libby's book about the Japanese girl  joemurphy   Oct-26-06 08:14 PM   #9 
   I never heard about that one!  DesertRat   Oct-26-06 08:15 PM   #10 
   Here ya go.  joemurphy   Oct-26-06 08:19 PM   #17 
   The problem with that is...  Dick Diver   Oct-26-06 08:19 PM   #18 
      I wasn't attempting to formulate strategy for Webb  joemurphy   Oct-26-06 08:56 PM   #61 
      Webb hasn't doen it either -- but good try  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:08 PM   #101 
   Well, that's fiction. Allen got his real life jollies by sticking  joemurphy   Oct-26-06 08:16 PM   #11 
   IT'S FICTION!  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 08:16 PM   #12 
   Have you ever read Lynn Cheney's book?  John Gauger   Oct-26-06 08:26 PM   #23 
   Thank you.  cali   Oct-26-06 08:44 PM   #48 
   Whatever it is, I don't feel comfortable with it  itsrobert   Oct-26-06 08:17 PM   #13 
   You don't feel comfortable with FICTION?  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 08:18 PM   #14 
   I don't feel comfortable with an incest relationship  itsrobert   Oct-26-06 08:19 PM   #20 
   There's quite a bit of incest being described in the Bible, you know. NT  NYCGirl   Oct-26-06 08:29 PM   #26 
   Not "quite a bit", and not parent/young child, and not New T.  WinkyDink   Oct-26-06 08:33 PM   #31 
      really? What exactly was that hungover Noah so pissed at his son for?  FLDem5   Oct-26-06 08:38 PM   #35 
      Lot's horny daughters?  John Gauger   Oct-26-06 10:18 PM   #113 
      Still it's in the Bible  SouthernBelle82   Oct-26-06 08:44 PM   #47 
   Isn't this book about a different culture than ours?  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 08:40 PM   #38 
   see post #33 -- and this:  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:43 PM   #45 
      Remember the outcry over Elian's grandmothers?  kskiska   Oct-26-06 10:45 PM   #127 
         it's a big and diverse world....  flowomo   Oct-26-06 10:57 PM   #130 
   So don't read it  SouthernBelle82   Oct-26-06 08:42 PM   #43 
   Did someone force you to read incest novels lately?  Mountainman   Oct-26-06 08:50 PM   # 
   are you so sure this scene is about incest?  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:52 PM   #58 
   Good grief -- it's not  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:09 PM   #102 
   I think it is a problem BECAUSE it's fiction  The Straight Story   Oct-26-06 08:29 PM   #25 
      Yes, and George Lucas secretly wants to rule the galaxy. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Oct-26-06 09:23 PM   #89 
   The damage is now done & Webb will lose an election he should have won.  Nozebro   Oct-26-06 08:20 PM   #21 
   Agreed. And no "But he/she did it, too!" argument is going to cut it.  WinkyDink   Oct-26-06 08:31 PM   #28 
   Drudge is smearing by not giving context  Bleachers7   Oct-26-06 09:05 PM   #78 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-26-06 08:55 PM   #60 
   Hahahaha --  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:09 PM   #104 
   regardless of how we feel, this is a deal breaker if it gets out there......  PaDem   Oct-26-06 09:11 PM   #84 
   Matt who?  Jack Rabbit   Oct-26-06 08:18 PM   #15 
   freepers were writing about this more than a week ago....  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:19 PM   #16 
   Cited story from "Right Wing News" has the same image Drudge uses...  Junkdrawer   Oct-26-06 08:24 PM   #22 
      yes, and it provides more context for the scene....  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:28 PM   #24 
         Isn't it a Vietnamese man kissing his son's penis?  Junkdrawer   Oct-26-06 08:31 PM   #30 
            content seems to indicate that... and see post #33....  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:36 PM   #34 
            Any Vietnamese out there?  marshall   Oct-26-06 10:31 PM   #124 
   This is bad.  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 08:31 PM   #29 
   BULLSHIT. This is a sign of sheer desperation by Macaca-boy.  jefferson_dem   Oct-26-06 08:39 PM   #36 
   But  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 08:42 PM   #42 
   Obviously. Your point? What exactly are you suggesting about NJ?  jefferson_dem   Oct-26-06 08:48 PM   #51 
   Just that  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 09:03 PM   #70 
   We're not part of the Bible Belt..Northern Virginia is progressive, the  autorank   Oct-26-06 09:42 PM   #93 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-26-06 09:13 PM   #85 
   concerned are you? Awful quick to write Webb off there.  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-26-06 08:41 PM   #40 
   I really hope I'm wrong.  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 08:43 PM   #46 
   Yeah, sure you do n/t  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 08:51 PM   #57 
   Why are you being mean?  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 09:04 PM   #76 
      Why are you being OBVIOUS?  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 10:18 PM   #114 
         Excuse me  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 10:45 PM   #128 
            No, I'll not excuse you in THIS lifetime. There is no EXCUSE for it.  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 10:55 PM   #129 
               WHAT are you talking about?  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 11:03 PM   #134 
                  Next time you make puppets, WASH them socks first!  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 11:14 PM   #135 
   I agree. It will not go over well. eom  Mojorabbit   Oct-26-06 09:03 PM   #72 
   Suuuuure  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:10 PM   #105 
   Concerned, yeah that's the ticket  wicket   Oct-26-06 08:50 PM   #55 
      yes, so much concern here of late, so many "Concerned" and "Worried"  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-26-06 09:02 PM   #69 
         I know, I'm just all choked up with their "concern"  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:11 PM   #107 
   Funny, you don't SOUND like you "hate to say it".  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 10:15 PM   #109 
      Because you can hear how I sound?  cautiouslywaiting   Oct-26-06 10:29 PM   #122 
         Loud and clear. The bridge above you acts as a natural amplifier.  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 10:57 PM   #131 
            LOL!  btmlndfrmr   Oct-26-06 11:02 PM   #133 
   Read this before you jump to conclusions about "incest"  flowomo   Oct-26-06 08:35 PM   #33 
   Oh good grief  SouthernBelle82   Oct-26-06 08:40 PM   #37 
   Exactly  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 08:42 PM   #41 
   Another weak strategy  Rockstone   Oct-26-06 08:46 PM   #50 
      It does not presuppose anything of the kind  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 08:49 PM   #53 
      I agree with you on everything  Rockstone   Oct-26-06 09:01 PM   #67 
      And the POV  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 09:04 PM   #73 
      "Mentally ill Southern Baptists" are the people voting in this election  enough already   Oct-26-06 09:06 PM   #79 
         naah  Rockstone   Oct-26-06 09:22 PM   #88 
         Isn't it curfew time at LU?  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:11 PM   #108 
      Yeah, and I see a bunch of low posting scumbags stirring up the pot!  trumad   Oct-26-06 08:50 PM   #56 
      Yuppers... and some pretty transparent ones, too  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:15 PM   #110 
      How do you propose Webb supporters like us counter this smear then?  jefferson_dem   Oct-26-06 09:00 PM   #65 
         post 73  Rockstone   Oct-26-06 09:24 PM   #90 
   DOOOMMMMED!1!111!1  Beetwasher   Oct-26-06 08:43 PM   #44 
   Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-26-06 08:48 PM   #52 
   Indeed. We need to be on the watch for the old "! to 1" keystrokes.  jefferson_dem   Oct-26-06 08:50 PM   #54 
   Yeah  Beetwasher   Oct-26-06 08:52 PM   #59 
   The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Drudge the almighty wants it that way  Bumblebee   Oct-26-06 09:04 PM   #75 
   Bingo, Beet -- and not even very "good" trolls  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:16 PM   #111 
   IT'S NOT A SEX SCENE - IT'S ABOUT CULTURE CLASHES....  Junkdrawer   Oct-26-06 08:58 PM   #63 
   Exactly  ruggerson   Oct-26-06 09:00 PM   #66 
      Yeah  Rockstone   Oct-26-06 09:07 PM   #81 
   The book got a great review from the right wing WASHINGTON TIMES!  NYCGirl   Oct-26-06 09:02 PM   #68 
   Use that Amazon link and do a search for penis...  rosebud57   Oct-26-06 09:13 PM   #86 
      And? NT  NYCGirl   Oct-26-06 09:18 PM   #87 
   I'm surprised by some of the people here who are jumping to  Connie_Corleone   Oct-26-06 09:03 PM   #71 
   see posts 33 and 61  flowomo   Oct-26-06 09:05 PM   #77 
   Their combined thread count equals around 50  trumad   Oct-26-06 09:07 PM   #82 
      Except for one  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:17 PM   #112 
         Ooh, me? nt  Marie26   Oct-26-06 10:20 PM   #116 
            No! Not you, silly  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 10:24 PM   #117 
   nice ring and run.  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-26-06 09:07 PM   #80 
   it doesn't matter... the story is out and would have been discussed  flowomo   Oct-26-06 09:08 PM   #83 
   I can't believe how many "Concerned Trollz" there are here today  NavyDavy   Oct-26-06 09:27 PM   #91 
   Compare and contrast to Lynne Cheney's writings.....  WestSeattle2   Oct-26-06 09:40 PM   #92 
   Very provocative OP with no opinion stated. Here's the appropriate opinion.  autorank   Oct-26-06 09:44 PM   #94 
   I think he does have issues w/women.  Marie26   Oct-26-06 09:53 PM   #95 
   What's that got to do with this?  trumad   Oct-26-06 10:07 PM   #99 
      The book  Marie26   Oct-26-06 10:29 PM   #123 
   Will Bill O'Reilly get jealous?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Oct-26-06 09:56 PM   #96 
   Post from FreeRepublic: Ever read Scooter Libby's book, or Lynne Cheney's for that matter?  w4rma   Oct-26-06 09:56 PM   #97 
   What about the other excerpts about women? nt  Marie26   Oct-26-06 10:18 PM   #115 
      I have seen no context on that outside of Drudge's lies. (nt)  w4rma   Oct-26-06 10:26 PM   #120 
         I guess you could use Amazon  Marie26   Oct-26-06 10:34 PM   #126 
   ***DEBUNKED***  Catchawave   Oct-26-06 10:09 PM   #103 
   120 something responses to your hit and run post and not 1 other from you....  doublethink   Oct-26-06 10:26 PM   #118 
   Locking.  pintoDU Moderator   Oct-26-06 11:22 PM   #136 
 

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