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381. Cheney's Junta is in a panic. Agents provocateur are an old trick
Look back to the Nixon days. 'The Man' would use provocateurs to create excuse for shutting down a lot of peace activist groups. Lots of those old Nixon days faces in Cheney's Junta now and they are threatened by the growing mass of people who are learning the truth. DU has been a VERY integral part of that movement and the education of America.

DU is a threat to Cheney.

DemoTex posted a thread asking DU HAM operators to post their calls and frequencies. He, and many of us have seen that a threat to DU was coming down the pike. It is a VERY important thread. Consider that a shutdown of the web, or a lot of sites that deal with exposing the Cheney Junta, would be a real problem for protecting America from the criminals in power.

Go to the thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Copy down the call numbers and frequencies your DU pals broadcast on. Dust off any short wave receiver you have. It could be very important in the very near future. We have to stay connected and keep people informed.

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  -We think you should be aware that the Secret Service contacted us today. Skinner  Oct-26-06 01:43 PM   #0 
  - Thanks for the information.  SmokingJacket   Oct-26-06 01:45 PM   #1 
  - As I said above, they were banned last week.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 01:50 PM   #14 
  - Well done, moderators!  The Backlash Cometh   Oct-26-06 01:53 PM   #25 
  - I believe the term is "agents provocateur"  Tin Man   Oct-26-06 05:29 PM   #289 
  - It could be a setup all along..  Tellurian   Oct-27-06 04:00 AM   #409 
  - The could be employees of the  ikojo   Oct-26-06 07:56 PM   #338 
     - A Hindu killed Gandhi. A jew Killed Rabin.  liberaldemocrat7   Oct-26-06 09:17 PM   #359 
        - Interesting subject line, there  krkaufman   Oct-27-06 02:00 AM   #401 
        - Dude whats up with that coin?  Fud   Oct-31-06 04:00 AM   #460 
  - Exactly....why else put something like that on DU?  Old and In the Way   Oct-26-06 01:52 PM   #19 
  - "personal threats de jour on RW posting sites"  JRob   Oct-26-06 03:23 PM   #186 
  - And if they were trolls, F' em.  Qutzupalotl   Oct-26-06 01:53 PM   #24 
  - Everyone is entitled to that kind of protection  Susang   Oct-26-06 02:23 PM   #86 
     - But if they were deliberately abusing their anonymity to harm DU?  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 02:44 PM   # 
     - I'll go along with that  KevinJ   Oct-26-06 03:04 PM   #162 
     - I agree. It's more likely they were RW's intending to tar us with the  mistertrickster   Oct-26-06 05:35 PM   #294 
        - There's free speech, there's courtesy, and there's transparency...  badgerpup   Oct-26-06 06:57 PM   #321 
     - First they came...  w4rma   Oct-26-06 04:26 PM   #233 
     - And when they came for...  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 05:01 PM   #259 
     - They didn't have a subpeona in the first place  Susang   Oct-26-06 05:44 PM   #300 
     - It seems that you and I agree about the PRINCIPLEs involved...  dicksteele   Oct-26-06 11:06 PM   #377 
     - It is not about the trools deserving squat. It is about all of us having  mom cat   Oct-26-06 05:46 PM   #302 
        - Hear, Hear!  bigbrother05   Oct-26-06 09:32 PM   #360 
           - Hear hear for Skinner. Stand and fight!  mom cat   Oct-27-06 07:05 AM   #416 
     - I'm sitting here  truth2power   Oct-26-06 04:38 PM   #238 
     - Thanks, I appreciate that  Susang   Oct-26-06 05:29 PM   #288 
     - It isn't just about protecting them. It's about protecting us.  IanDB1   Oct-26-06 04:48 PM   #244 
     - First they came for the freepers, and I didn't speak up, because...  Infomaniac   Oct-26-06 05:04 PM   #262 
     - #5!!! hysterical! i laughed out loud. thanks. n/t  orleans   Oct-27-06 12:05 AM   #393 
     - This is exactly right.  John Gauger   Oct-27-06 06:03 PM   #453 
     - So all those Hi Agent Mike post were real!!!  dogday   Oct-26-06 04:51 PM   #247 
     - Hee....  Dorian Gray   Oct-26-06 11:54 PM   #390 
     - (but how do we know his name is really mike?)  orleans   Oct-27-06 12:01 AM   #392 
        - His name's Mike now  John Gauger   Oct-27-06 06:09 PM   #454 
     - Absolutely right.  John Gauger   Oct-26-06 05:32 PM   #292 
     - Threatening POTUS is serious - What the Federal Statute says  AikidoSoul   Oct-26-06 07:52 PM   #336 
        - Exactly - I'm not sure Skinner should risk his ass for a couple of freepers.  suziedemocrat   Oct-26-06 08:04 PM   #341 
        - Don't worry about us or about Democratic Underground. We'll be fine.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 08:13 PM   #346 
        - Rights? I'm not so sure there are all that many rights left to  olafvikingr   Oct-27-06 08:09 AM   #420 
        - An individual is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law  LastLiberal in PalmSprings   Oct-26-06 11:53 PM   #389 
        - Innocent until proven -- not arguing against that at all  AikidoSoul   Oct-27-06 08:59 AM   #428 
        - I never said it wasn't a crime.  John Gauger   Oct-27-06 05:25 PM   #452 
     - No one is free to threaten the president. nt  Qutzupalotl   Oct-26-06 05:59 PM   #307 
        - Perhaps you should read this  Susang   Oct-26-06 06:02 PM   #309 
        - Understood.  Qutzupalotl   Oct-26-06 06:14 PM   #316 
           - so long as the subpoena is not overly broad  bushmeat   Oct-26-06 10:06 PM   #361 
        - right. look at that 14 year old girl the fbi hauled out of class a couple  orleans   Oct-27-06 12:08 AM   #394 
  - Enemy Combatants?  vapidave   Oct-27-06 01:17 PM   #442 
  - Thank you  Drum   Oct-26-06 01:46 PM   #2 
  - Thank you for the information. While we dislike Bush and his policies  WI_DEM   Oct-26-06 01:46 PM   #3 
  - Myself I like frog marched to the Hague  wakeme2008   Oct-26-06 01:49 PM   #12 
  - I wonder how many  Donailin   Oct-26-06 10:22 PM   #363 
  - I agree, there's no justice in something like that. We need to be able to  petepillow   Oct-26-06 01:59 PM   #38 
  - I would like him to be personally embarrassed  demwing   Oct-26-06 02:10 PM   # 
  - The LAST thing I'd ever want is his assassination. He'd be a martyr.  TahitiNut   Oct-26-06 02:12 PM   #63 
     - I think that fill about Jr getting shot went over the board also.  rodeodance   Oct-26-06 05:06 PM   #265 
        - "JR getting shot"? Dallas? "Who shot JR?"  TahitiNut   Oct-26-06 05:10 PM   #271 
  - Thank you for standing up for the privacy of your members  Solly Mack   Oct-26-06 01:46 PM   #4 
  - Thanks for sharing, Skinner. I'm just surprised  babylonsister   Oct-26-06 01:47 PM   #5 
  - Likely already have. First they sneak n'peak, then they ask.  leveymg   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   #141 
  - That's a good take.  hunter   Oct-26-06 03:07 PM   #167 
  - Exactly.  leveymg   Oct-26-06 03:18 PM   #180 
     - Grand Jury?  Sasha Undercover   Oct-26-06 07:21 PM   #325 
  - but this is a public forum  Retrograde   Oct-26-06 04:25 PM   #230 
     - It's perfectly legal for Officer Mike to read the site. This is like a newspaper,  leveymg   Oct-26-06 05:12 PM   #273 
  - (kestrel wondering when Skinner and Elad are going to  kestrel91316   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   #142 
  - Thanks very much for this information  BOSSHOG   Oct-26-06 01:47 PM   #6 
  - Excellent point. I was wondering if anyone would address that.  Virginian   Oct-27-06 01:50 AM   #400 
  - Is there any chance thay they could compel you to hand over info  Bonobo   Oct-26-06 01:48 PM   #7 
  - Thanks for the info, your security and your reminder  riderinthestorm   Oct-26-06 01:49 PM   #8 
  - We knew the government was monitoring DU.  ThomCat   Oct-26-06 01:49 PM   #9 
  - Government Monitoring? It's just as likely some Freeper read the crap and informed  cryingshame   Oct-26-06 01:53 PM   #22 
  - Rather some freeper POSTED the crap, then alerted  robbedvoter   Oct-26-06 02:03 PM   #48 
  - Absolutely, they post inflammatory remarks and then feed them to Rush  blm   Oct-26-06 02:37 PM   #118 
  - Well, anyone who cherrypicks anonymous posts on a board with 100,000 people...  Fighting Irish   Oct-27-06 02:12 AM   #403 
  - Thats what I was thinking  nam78_two   Oct-26-06 02:55 PM   #149 
  - That's what I think happened, too  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 04:04 PM   #224 
  - Yes that did happen  Fud   Oct-28-06 07:02 AM   #456 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-26-06 03:11 PM   #177 
  - Exactly  brentspeak   Oct-26-06 04:43 PM   #240 
  - Of course they are. The FBI had files and photos during the late 60's of anti-war  CLW   Oct-26-06 07:51 PM   #335 
  - They don't need to "monitor" one particular web site.  LibInTexas   Oct-26-06 08:36 PM   #353 
  - Thanks Skinner  Swede   Oct-26-06 01:49 PM   #10 
  - What was the method in which they were made aware of the posts?  Blue-Jay   Oct-26-06 01:49 PM   #11 
  - I'm guessing it was the later. n/t  cat_girl25   Oct-26-06 01:56 PM   #31 
  - More Than Likely, Some Repub Lurker Alerted On It. But That Is A  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-26-06 01:56 PM   #32 
     - It wasn't a deflection. Merely curiousity.  Blue-Jay   Oct-26-06 02:07 PM   #53 
     - Questions are not deflections  Susang   Oct-26-06 02:25 PM   #93 
  - How very scary...I do appreciate your stand on this issue.  angstlessk   Oct-26-06 01:50 PM   #13 
  - You are taking the best possible approach, all things considered.  bobthedrummer   Oct-26-06 01:51 PM   #15 
  - Thanks For The Heads Up And Reminders To Post Responsibly.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-26-06 01:51 PM   #16 
  - Agreed! could not have said it better myself!  lisainmilo   Oct-27-06 01:23 AM   #396 
  - Well said, but MindCrime?  ItNerd4life   Oct-27-06 03:49 PM   #448 
     - It's The Name Of An Amazing Queensryche Album.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-27-06 04:07 PM   #451 
  - Thanks Skinner.  sinkingfeeling   Oct-26-06 01:51 PM   #17 
  - Thanks...........  KoKo01   Oct-26-06 01:52 PM   #18 
  - They must monitor this site pretty closely  DoYouEverWonder   Oct-26-06 01:52 PM   #20 
  - I think someone tipped them off in this instance  nam78_two   Oct-26-06 03:46 PM   #211 
     - I hope you sent the links  DoYouEverWonder   Oct-26-06 03:58 PM   #221 
     - I think the Freepers posted these messages themselves  StephenB48   Oct-26-06 04:32 PM   #234 
  - I think you should give them what they are asking for.  cat_girl25   Oct-26-06 01:52 PM   #21 
  - No, no, no, please. There's good reasons for doing it right.  BuyingThyme   Oct-26-06 03:08 PM   #172 
  - K&R  lpbk2713   Oct-26-06 01:53 PM   #23 
  - Thank you for letting us know, Skinner..........  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-26-06 01:53 PM   #26 
  - so nsa is watching us all???  pwb   Oct-26-06 01:54 PM   #27 
  - Thanks, Skinner  ceile   Oct-26-06 01:54 PM   #28 
  - If Your Lawyers Need Help...  CorpGovActivist   Oct-26-06 01:55 PM   #29 
  - Thank you Skinner!  Kadie   Oct-26-06 01:55 PM   #30 
  - Wow  DesertedRose   Oct-26-06 01:56 PM   #33 
  - Excellent idea. So EVERYONE can see it for the duration.  calimary   Oct-26-06 04:48 PM   #243 
  - Many thanks to you for how you are handling this  swimboy   Oct-26-06 01:57 PM   #34 
  - Thank you for the information. It's good to know this.  Jack Rabbit   Oct-26-06 01:57 PM   #35 
  - Fair Trial  Throwing Stones   Oct-26-06 02:17 PM   #74 
  - I wouldn't  Jack Rabbit   Oct-26-06 03:03 PM   #161 
  - No thanks-thats the logic used on the right side of the aisle  nam78_two   Oct-26-06 03:07 PM   #166 
     - yes, but  Throwing Stones   Oct-26-06 07:07 PM   #324 
  - Thanks for the heads up and your policy.  thingfisher   Oct-26-06 02:20 PM   #78 
  - Thank you for your diligence and honesty n/t  solara   Oct-26-06 01:58 PM   #36 
  - Thank you for posting this, Skinner.  Penndems   Oct-26-06 01:58 PM   #37 
  - Thanks Skinner. And as Joey Lawrence said on Saved by the Bell:  readmoreoften   Oct-26-06 02:00 PM   #39 
  - Yeah, that wasn't saved by the bell...  YellowRubberDuckie   Oct-26-06 05:19 PM   #283 
  - Awww, agent Mike IS reading our posts.  mainegreen   Oct-26-06 02:00 PM   #40 
  - Just what I was thinking  supernova   Oct-26-06 02:03 PM   #46 
  - Hi, Agent Mike  wryter2000   Oct-26-06 02:59 PM   # 
  - I hope they don't read my Lounge posts.  undeterred   Oct-26-06 02:07 PM   #52 
     - I wonder how they take any of us seriously after reading  mutley_r_us   Oct-26-06 02:08 PM   #55 
        - I wonder what kind of bath toys the Secret Service people use?  undeterred   Oct-26-06 02:17 PM   #73 
        - Actually, I wanted to know what they think of kudzu.  mutley_r_us   Oct-26-06 06:07 PM   #312 
           - They're bullish on it  mycritters2   Oct-26-06 06:21 PM   #318 
        - I wonder if they have any cat  ikojo   Oct-26-06 07:59 PM   #339 
           - I wonder if their cats wear dark suits and sunglasses  mycritters2   Oct-27-06 10:51 AM   #437 
  - thanks for telling us.  alyce douglas   Oct-26-06 02:01 PM   #41 
  - Thank you for reminding us to be vigilant  datadiva   Oct-26-06 02:02 PM   #42 
  - Skinner, thank you so much for posting this. (Questions)  BuyingThyme   Oct-26-06 02:02 PM   #43 
  - To be honest, I don't know how much information they will ask for.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:12 PM   #62 
     - I would argue that vast majority of (post) data in your database  BuyingThyme   Oct-26-06 02:24 PM   #89 
     - Technically yes.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:27 PM   #97 
     - That's what you deserve credit for more than anything.  Justice Is Comin   Oct-26-06 02:36 PM   #115 
     - LOL. If they knew how much some of us are on here they'd know  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 04:57 PM   #254 
     - Glad to hear THAT  laylah   Oct-26-06 05:53 PM   #304 
  - But did they make a donation?  matcom   Oct-26-06 02:03 PM   #44 
  - When we get to Gitmo, I dibs the top bunk.  Generic Other   Oct-26-06 08:16 PM   #348 
  - whew.  leftofthedial   Oct-26-06 02:03 PM   #45 
  - Thank all of you, Skinner  ninkasi   Oct-26-06 02:03 PM   #47 
  - It's nice to know someone in the Federal Government knows about  William769   Oct-26-06 02:03 PM   #49 
  - Thank you Skinner  supernova   Oct-26-06 02:04 PM   #50 
  - Thank you  Buttercup McToots   Oct-26-06 02:09 PM   #56 
  - Thanks Skinner  Debi   Oct-26-06 02:06 PM   #51 
  - We intend to let you know if we get a subpoena or subpoenas.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:16 PM   #72 
     - Thanks again, Skinner!  Debi   Oct-26-06 02:23 PM   #85 
     - Remember: the ACLU is your friend. (NT)  Tesha   Oct-26-06 02:27 PM   #95 
        - Yes, is the ACLU aware of this???  alyce douglas   Oct-26-06 02:31 PM   #103 
           - There's probably no cause for action yet, but after the subpoenas arrive...  Tesha   Oct-26-06 02:43 PM   #131 
  - Thanks for the heads up Skinner.  BlueStorm   Oct-26-06 02:08 PM   #54 
  - Human? Let's not get carried away here.  NCevilDUer   Oct-26-06 02:44 PM   #133 
     - Ok I guess I could go with that. n/t  BlueStorm   Oct-26-06 02:55 PM   #150 
     - Hey - don't blame the Neadertals  hedgehog   Oct-26-06 06:08 PM   #313 
  - Keep up the good work!  NewInNewJ.   Oct-26-06 02:10 PM   #57 
  - I Think I Saw The Posts In Question.  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-26-06 02:10 PM   #58 
  - a set-up to create problems perhaps?  marions ghost   Oct-26-06 02:28 PM   #99 
  - I'm Not Speaking To The Subpoena...  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-26-06 02:37 PM   # 
     - OK I understand  marions ghost   Oct-26-06 02:42 PM   #129 
  - Perhaps they were plants??  kentuck   Oct-26-06 02:54 PM   #148 
  - Threatening ANYBODY is inappropriate. There's only enough law enforcement  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:06 PM   #264 
  - Do you need to collect a legal fund?  necso   Oct-26-06 02:11 PM   #59 
  - At this point our "legal fund" is our regular operating expenses.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:24 PM   #87 
     - If you DO need to set one up, I'm sure we'll all be happy to pitch in.  kestrel91316   Oct-26-06 02:56 PM   #152 
     - Yep. Just let us know.  cat_girl25   Oct-26-06 03:05 PM   #164 
     - I'm torn. It's for DU & rights etc. but why not out the freeps or nuts if  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:07 PM   #266 
     - Definitely. I'd sell my grandmother if she was still alive  magellan   Oct-26-06 08:14 PM   #347 
     - Rugh ro. Where's grovel bot?  lonestarnot   Oct-27-06 09:08 AM   #429 
        - woops  lonestarnot   Oct-27-06 09:10 AM   #430 
  - Thank you, Skinner. You are handling this very well.  SeattleGirl   Oct-26-06 02:12 PM   #60 
  - Thank you!  spuddonna   Oct-26-06 02:12 PM   #61 
  - A responsible and professional approach, as always.  Longhorn   Oct-26-06 02:13 PM   #64 
  - Frightening really. Does the SS monitor Free Republic?  gully   Oct-26-06 02:14 PM   #65 
  - I'm sure they are well aware of FR and are regular members there.  kestrel91316   Oct-26-06 02:57 PM   #154 
  - LOL  gully   Oct-26-06 03:38 PM   #202 
  - I'm not at liberty to discuss where I came by the information  JulieRB   Oct-26-06 03:07 PM   #169 
     - Yes, they are.  cat_girl25   Oct-26-06 04:01 PM   #222 
        - Hell, Jessee Helms mad a direct thinly veiled threat  StephenB48   Oct-26-06 04:43 PM   #241 
           - Hell, I don't consider it thinly-veiled  LostinVA   Oct-26-06 04:58 PM   #256 
  - Thanks for keeping us informed. A question...  MrCoffee   Oct-26-06 02:14 PM   #66 
  - Our intention is to keep you informed.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:25 PM   #92 
     - Thank you, Sir. I am deeply grateful to have such committed Admins and  MrCoffee   Oct-26-06 02:28 PM   #98 
  - Good grief.  Lex   Oct-26-06 02:14 PM   #67 
  - How depressing.  Straight Shooter   Oct-26-06 02:15 PM   #68 
  - Remember all the threats made on Pres Clinton over at freerepublic.com  Lex   Oct-26-06 02:19 PM   #77 
  - I'll take that bet.  Richardo   Oct-26-06 02:22 PM   #83 
  - I'll agree  Lex   Oct-26-06 02:25 PM   #90 
  - Indeed. A Secret Service agent is a close friend of my family.  blondeatlast   Oct-26-06 10:27 PM   #365 
  - I'd be willing to bet that they do  Penndems   Oct-26-06 02:32 PM   #105 
  - Or The People That Cheered  AnnieBW   Oct-26-06 07:31 PM   #330 
  - I want to know how they know this?  originalpckelly   Oct-26-06 02:20 PM   #79 
  - Hmmmmm.......  kestrel91316   Oct-26-06 03:05 PM   #163 
  - How do you know they're "monitoring" DU?  jmowreader   Oct-26-06 03:57 PM   #220 
  - It's their job to take orders from the President  Canuckistanian   Oct-26-06 04:26 PM   #232 
  - They're not really protecting the president so much as their fellow agents  IanDB1   Oct-26-06 05:28 PM   #287 
  - Yeah, you thought they were only monitoring "foreigners", huh...  kentuck   Oct-26-06 10:30 PM   #367 
  - I recall hearing al Qaeda members were communicating via sports boards  Fighting Irish   Oct-27-06 02:27 AM   #405 
  - It Should Also Piss You Off  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-26-06 02:20 PM   #81 
  - Yes, that makes me angry, too. Throwing a stink bomb to get attention.  Straight Shooter   Oct-26-06 02:37 PM   #119 
  - On the other hand, it could get Skinner on Countdown with Keith Olbermann  IanDB1   Oct-26-06 05:29 PM   #290 
  - And to think the real threat is in the White House.  Gregorian   Oct-26-06 02:22 PM   #84 
  - You and I both know this:  kestrel91316   Oct-26-06 02:59 PM   #159 
  - Yep. Watch DU get labeled in the MSM as a Terrorist site.  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:09 PM   #269 
  - There's no way to know what anyone with vicious intentions might do.  napi21   Oct-26-06 08:11 PM   #345 
     - Anyone who has serious intentions of assassination is not going to post them.  Straight Shooter   Oct-27-06 01:15 AM   #395 
  - Thanks, Skinner! The protocol I'd expect from Admins. (n/t)  jarab   Oct-26-06 02:15 PM   #69 
  - "The Secret Service has informed us that they intend to get subpoenas...  Scurrilous   Oct-26-06 02:16 PM   #70 
  - Sorry You have to go through that  Throwing Stones   Oct-26-06 02:24 PM   #88 
     - At this point we do not know.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:35 PM   #112 
  - Thank you  ismnotwasm   Oct-26-06 02:16 PM   #71 
  - I have thought much the same.  murielm99   Oct-26-06 02:38 PM   #121 
     - For some reason, I keep getting letters of appeal from  StephenB48   Oct-26-06 04:50 PM   #246 
  - Thanks for letting us know.  Kerrytravelers   Oct-26-06 02:18 PM   #75 
  - But, has the DEA contacted you??  progressoid   Oct-26-06 02:19 PM   #76 
  - Thank you , DU, for taking a principled stand.  keepCAblue   Oct-26-06 02:20 PM   #80 
  - Exactly. When's the SS going to investigate Ann Coulter for threatening to poison the Supreme Court  E-Z-B   Oct-26-06 03:35 PM   #201 
  - Thanks for the info ....  etherealtruth   Oct-26-06 02:22 PM   #82 
  - Oh Brother  ProfessorGAC   Oct-26-06 02:25 PM   #91 
  - I Agree In Part And Disagree In Part...  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-26-06 02:33 PM   #108 
  - Fair Enough  ProfessorGAC   Oct-26-06 02:37 PM   #117 
  - Here's an experience I'm familiar with a few years ago re. SS  KoKo01   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   #143 
  - Thanks for sticking up for privacy.  demgurl   Oct-26-06 02:27 PM   #94 
  - Thank you for letting us know.  brook   Oct-26-06 02:27 PM   #96 
  - Thanks for the heads up and your policy.  Disturbed   Oct-26-06 02:44 PM   #132 
  - They are just doing their jobs.  tinfoilinfor2005   Oct-26-06 02:29 PM   #100 
  - Yes, they are just doing their jobs.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:38 PM   #123 
  - Plus, aren't they the ones who jump in FRONT of the Prez if soemthing  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:12 PM   #274 
  - Hey now, just because we've been visited by the SS  Th1onein   Oct-26-06 03:34 PM   #200 
  - I appreciate the way you handled this  Susang   Oct-26-06 02:30 PM   #101 
  - Thanks for letting us know and protecting our  cally   Oct-26-06 02:30 PM   #102 
  - Wow. Thanks, Skinner.  Midlodemocrat   Oct-26-06 02:31 PM   #104 
  - While we're at it could we stop all Ann coulter threads?  Skink   Oct-26-06 02:33 PM   #106 
  - Maybe the Feds should hire our mods.  sfexpat2000   Oct-26-06 02:33 PM   #107 
  - LOL! Hell, that may be why they monitor DU!  blondeatlast   Oct-26-06 10:33 PM   #368 
  - IMHO this should be stickied to the top. nt  Rosemary2205   Oct-26-06 02:33 PM   #109 
  - a question, Skinner, just out of curiosity....  mike_c   Oct-26-06 02:33 PM   #110 
  - This is a touchy subject.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:43 PM   #130 
  - That's what I suspect, and that's pretty goddamn stupid of those disruptors  Strawman   Oct-26-06 03:28 PM   #193 
  - Well, until now I was shrugging off the idea of being monitored.  Sugar Smack   Oct-26-06 02:34 PM   #111 
  - Thank you for the information ...  meegbear   Oct-26-06 02:35 PM   #113 
  - Intimidation, at the very least, by the US Government.  kentuck   Oct-26-06 02:36 PM   #114 
  - See Post #143....it may be, just "bidness as usual." n/t  KoKo01   Oct-26-06 04:58 PM   #255 
  - Great job as usual  grizmaster   Oct-26-06 02:36 PM   #116 
  - Thanks for the FYI.  mmonk   Oct-26-06 02:38 PM   #120 
  - I LOVE President Bush, I always have, I always will, forever & ever  Philosoraptor   Oct-26-06 02:38 PM   #122 
  - He's such a CLASSY GUY.  Sugar Smack   Oct-26-06 02:39 PM   #125 
  - I pray for him daily, really  Philosoraptor   Oct-26-06 02:40 PM   #127 
  - I pray for him several times daily.  smoogatz   Oct-26-06 02:48 PM   #136 
     - lmao  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:15 PM   #278 
        - I'm not even planning to see the new movie "Death of a President"...  Radio_Lady   Oct-26-06 10:47 PM   #372 
           - That movie makes me a little nervous.  nytemare   Oct-29-06 01:44 PM   #459 
  - Photographic proof (not photoshopped). Check out his fly & Putin's face.  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:14 PM   #277 
     - Everybody in the pic is laughing they all know  AikidoSoul   Oct-26-06 08:27 PM   #351 
  - I want the bushturd and all the members of his crime family  leftofthedial   Oct-26-06 04:54 PM   #250 
  - The single most important thing DU must do here.  SlipperySlope   Oct-26-06 02:39 PM   #124 
  - We will continue to log IP addresses.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:46 PM   #134 
  - Depends on how you use them  SlipperySlope   Oct-26-06 04:59 PM   #257 
     - Yes, it puts me to my libertarian nature on such things.  sweetheart   Oct-26-06 06:55 PM   #320 
  - Thanks, Skinner, for protecting us! Now back the regularly scheduled revolution.  madmusic   Oct-26-06 08:49 PM   #356 
  - If one is so overly worried about protecting one's privacy, one shouldn't  MrsGrumpy   Oct-27-06 12:40 PM   #440 
  - An interesting dilemma, I have to say.  smoogatz   Oct-26-06 02:40 PM   #126 
  - Thanks for the info Skinner. This needs to be on the front page...  truebrit71   Oct-26-06 02:41 PM   #128 
  - That's kind of what I was thinking.  mmonk   Oct-26-06 02:46 PM   #135 
  - I intend to continue to post and support jokes about Bush.  kestrel91316   Oct-26-06 02:48 PM   #137 
  - Post all the jokes you want, but...  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:52 PM   #146 
     - I fail to see the "humor" in that kind of joking  deutsey   Oct-26-06 03:40 PM   #207 
  - Thanks for the way you are handling this, Skinner.  greatauntoftriplets   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   #138 
  - Yoiks and thanks  nam78_two   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   # 
  - self delete-dupe/nt  nam78_two   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   #139 
  - Thanks  wryter2000   Oct-26-06 02:50 PM   #140 
  - May this be short-lived.  FLDem5   Oct-26-06 02:51 PM   #144 
  - This needs to be kicked back to the top and kept there.  hedgehog   Oct-26-06 02:51 PM   #145 
  - I'm not sure if I've seen this answered....  trumad   Oct-26-06 02:52 PM   #147 
  - I don't feel qualified to answer that.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 02:55 PM   #151 
  - Let me qualify this next question by saying you guys know I love ya....  trumad   Oct-26-06 03:07 PM   #168 
  - A fair question, Trumad...  kentuck   Oct-26-06 02:58 PM   #155 
  - ..another question...how long were the posts up for? If it was a short time...  truebrit71   Oct-26-06 03:07 PM   #171 
  - probably some goober teen in his mom's basement.  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:16 PM   #279 
  - I trust your judgement.  Bleachers7   Oct-26-06 02:56 PM   #153 
  - Friendly Reminder  The empressof all   Oct-26-06 02:58 PM   #156 
  - I seconded this one  petersond   Oct-26-06 03:25 PM   #190 
     - Thirded!  Prag   Oct-26-06 04:02 PM   #223 
  - Thanks Skinner.....  DeSwiss   Oct-26-06 02:59 PM   #157 
  - 1984  BlueJac   Oct-26-06 02:59 PM   #158 
  - Should this thread or your OP be pinned?  Gormy Cuss   Oct-26-06 03:01 PM   #160 
  - One question I'd have is whether these posts were real threats. Sometimes  kath   Oct-26-06 03:05 PM   #165 
  - GIven the nut cases who've taken pot shots at Presidents in recent  hedgehog   Oct-26-06 03:09 PM   #174 
     - Then there's the idiot who shot Reagan. His parents are friends of GWHB.  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 05:18 PM   #282 
  - Did they contact you by phone and are you certain they were SS?  kentuck   Oct-26-06 03:07 PM   #170 
  - They contacted us by phone. And fax.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 03:10 PM   #176 
  - Thank you, Skinner, admins and mods  JulieRB   Oct-26-06 03:08 PM   #173 
  - Don't you have to be elected president to get SS protection?  rug   Oct-26-06 03:10 PM   #175 
  - A salient and considerable point indeed.  byronius   Oct-26-06 03:38 PM   #203 
  - Thanks for this info n/t  malaise   Oct-26-06 03:12 PM   #178 
  - Thank you Skinner  JitterbugPerfume   Oct-26-06 03:14 PM   #179 
  - Thanks Skinner  ArmchairMeme   Oct-26-06 03:18 PM   #181 
  - YIKES! At first I was afraid it was my remarks about Limbaugh...  Carni   Oct-26-06 03:19 PM   #182 
  - I wouldn't worry about remarks  mmonk   Oct-26-06 03:28 PM   #192 
     - That we know of anyway!  Carni   Oct-26-06 03:41 PM   #209 
  - Yeeeeesh! What a nuisance for you. And now we see...  TygrBright   Oct-26-06 03:19 PM   #183 
  - Whoa....  wicket   Oct-26-06 03:20 PM   #184 
  - Is it possible that they could seize DU's computers and shut it down  The Straight Story   Oct-26-06 03:20 PM   #185 
  - That isn't going to happen.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 03:30 PM   #194 
  - Thanks, Skinner!  OzarkDem   Oct-26-06 03:24 PM   #187 
  - Thanks for the heads up... and this environment.  JRob   Oct-26-06 03:24 PM   #188 
  - Thanks for telling us, I appreciate it. nt  TheGoldenRule   Oct-26-06 03:25 PM   #189 
  - Thanks for informing us and I'm very glad they were banned.  DemExpat   Oct-26-06 03:25 PM   #191 
  - note to self ...  dweller   Oct-26-06 03:31 PM   #195 
  - Ha Ha  Buttercup McToots   Oct-26-06 03:50 PM   #215 
  - Following the rules of civil conduct is just so -- us.  byronius   Oct-26-06 03:33 PM   #196 
  - Now... When are they going to come down on Hannity for his Pelosi threats?  Prag   Oct-26-06 03:33 PM   #197 
  - Leader Pelosi's security is handled by the Capitol Police  Penndems   Oct-26-06 05:04 PM   #261 
     - He let loose with a tirade the other day...  Prag   Oct-26-06 05:12 PM   #275 
        - Hannity might have said it, but whether he gets away with it is another matter  Penndems   Oct-26-06 05:17 PM   #281 
  - The Parlock technique strikes again?  Bluebear   Oct-26-06 03:33 PM   #198 
  - wow  cwydro   Oct-26-06 03:33 PM   #199 
  - I say if they are trolls, out them  fishnfla   Oct-26-06 03:38 PM   #204 
  - Is this causing y'all much stress?  TahitiNut   Oct-26-06 03:39 PM   #205 
  - Thanks for letting us know. nt  emdee   Oct-26-06 03:40 PM   #206 
  - Franly, I'm a bit surprised it took 'this' long. If this creates a lot of legal  karlrschneider   Oct-26-06 03:41 PM   #208 
  - You know, I don't really feel much sympathy for the two being investigated.  LoZoccolo   Oct-26-06 03:44 PM   #210 
  - I'm glad that the Secret Service is doing its job.  missb   Oct-26-06 03:46 PM   #212 
  - Good going Admins!  Q3JR4   Oct-26-06 03:46 PM   #213 
  - Are they just chasing info on those two people, or ...  Akoto   Oct-26-06 03:47 PM   #214 
  - They just want info on those two people.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 03:53 PM   #218 
  - Sorry to Say  itcfish   Oct-26-06 03:52 PM   #216 
  - They'll find that they were fuckin REPUBLICAN FREEPERS posting  xultar   Oct-26-06 03:52 PM   #217 
  - Rec# 100!!!! I'm glad they contacted you...  elehhhhna   Oct-26-06 03:57 PM   #219 
  - By the way, is DOJ Patrick Fitzgerald on the case?  cat_girl25   Oct-26-06 04:06 PM   #225 
  - Thanks, Skinner  me b zola   Oct-26-06 04:10 PM   #226 
  - Thank you for your vigilance, Skinner. Oh, hey...  IntravenousDemilo   Oct-26-06 04:10 PM   #227 
  - Absolutely the correct approach.  endarkenment   Oct-26-06 04:19 PM   #228 
  - I've tiptoed up to that line myself...  civildisoBDence   Oct-26-06 04:19 PM   #229 
  - Thank you for taking such good care of us DU'ers Skinner.  Dem2theMax   Oct-26-06 04:25 PM   #231 
  - If the mods weren't overwhelmed dealing with pointless flame wars...  IanDB1   Oct-27-06 06:09 AM   #412 
  - Thank you.  reyd reid reed   Oct-26-06 04:32 PM   #235 
  - I agree with how you are handling it.  Jim4Wes   Oct-26-06 04:34 PM   #236 
  - Interesting  johnnie   Oct-26-06 04:38 PM   #237 
  - I am guessing here  Jim4Wes   Oct-26-06 04:45 PM   #242 
     - Yeah  johnnie   Oct-26-06 04:49 PM   #245 
     - That is what happened-they are crowing about it on a couple of RW sites  nam78_two   Oct-26-06 04:53 PM   #249 
  - Thank you for keeping us informed, Skinner. n/t  myrna minx   Oct-26-06 04:42 PM   #239 
  - Should DU protect people who are clearly breaking the law?  cassiepriam   Oct-26-06 04:52 PM   #248 
  - This is not a case of protecting lawbreakers.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 05:27 PM   #285 
  - Thank you for the clarification, yes you are right.  cassiepriam   Oct-26-06 05:44 PM   #301 
  - Thomas Paine's take on protecting those with whom we bitterly disagree.  BleedingHeartPatriot   Oct-26-06 07:21 PM   #326 
  - Thanks for keeping us informed, Skinner, & for standing on principle.  Vidar   Oct-27-06 01:37 AM   #399 
  - authorities should  marions ghost   Oct-26-06 06:13 PM   #314 
  - Damn....they were convicted already. Skinner how did you miss  Lochloosa   Oct-27-06 06:17 AM   #413 
     - Threating to harm anyone is clearly against the law and very serious,  cassiepriam   Oct-27-06 06:31 AM   #414 
        - I think you need to keep in mind...  Skinner   Oct-27-06 08:21 AM   #421 
  - Hope you said High to Agent Mike for us  dkofos   Oct-26-06 04:55 PM   #251 
  - Thanks for the info Skinner  skygazer   Oct-26-06 04:56 PM   #252 
  - Thanx Skinner...  windbreeze   Oct-26-06 04:57 PM   #253 
  - What if the SS sent the trolls here to cause reason to search?  L0oniX   Oct-26-06 04:59 PM   #258 
  - I've got a question for you Dave, but it's about your little doggy pic.....  A HERETIC I AM   Oct-26-06 05:02 PM   #260 
  - Agent Mike ALREADY KNOWS who those posters were.  MethuenProgressive   Oct-26-06 05:05 PM   #263 
  - I heard that Clinton had Skinner in his sights in 1993, but didn't take the shot. n/t  IanDB1   Oct-26-06 05:08 PM   #268 
  - I think you've handled this perfectly, Skinner  mvd   Oct-26-06 05:08 PM   #267 
  - Skinner, this thread has taught me an important lesson that is missing  brer cat   Oct-26-06 05:10 PM   #270 
  - I had some Secre Service personnel show up at my place of work a few years ago  derby378   Oct-26-06 05:12 PM   #272 
  - Skinner - I have a question on a related topic.  Finnfan   Oct-26-06 05:13 PM   #276 
  - Discussion of the film is fine, and is of course permitted.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 05:33 PM   #293 
  - Are you able to post the specific comments that were of concern to  Last Stand   Oct-26-06 05:53 PM   #305 
     - I don't think that is necessary.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 07:43 PM   #333 
  - Actually be careful how you word your statements in regards to this  pooja   Oct-26-06 08:05 PM   #342 
  - Finnfan, just as an aside, this movie is going into limited release on  Radio_Lady   Oct-26-06 11:00 PM   #374 
  - From Newmarket Films regarding "Death of a President"...  Radio_Lady   Oct-26-06 11:05 PM   #376 
  - I saw the promo last night, and looked at this thread just to see  bullwinkle428   Oct-27-06 08:31 AM   #426 
  - It's the Secret Service's job  Raine   Oct-26-06 05:17 PM   #280 
  - Thanks. And have they arrested Coulter or others who advocate  wiley   Oct-26-06 05:25 PM   #284 
  - Holy smokes!  guinivere   Oct-26-06 05:28 PM   #286 
  - thanks, Skinner.  ulysses   Oct-26-06 05:30 PM   #291 
  - Didn't take em long. New rules means they get to do whatever they  Rex   Oct-26-06 05:37 PM   #295 
  - So it took six weeks for them to find out that that idiot in Wisconsin was  Nickster   Oct-26-06 05:38 PM   #296 
  - Thanks for letting us know, Skinner.  Pithlet   Oct-26-06 05:40 PM   #297 
  - I appreciate your professionalism, Skinner.  Tatiana   Oct-26-06 05:44 PM   #298 
  - Big time.  Orsino   Oct-28-06 09:12 AM   #457 
  - If it turns out to be intentional  KT2000   Oct-26-06 05:44 PM   #299 
  - Interesting idea. Do any of the lawyers on DU have an opinion  theothersnippywshrub   Oct-26-06 06:47 PM   #319 
     - Good question. Hope one of DU's lawyers answers.  mmonk   Oct-26-06 07:27 PM   #329 
     - I must say  Jcrowley   Oct-26-06 08:53 PM   #357 
  - K&R n/t  rainbow4321   Oct-26-06 05:47 PM   #303 
  - Thanks for this information, Skinner.  democrank   Oct-26-06 05:53 PM   #306 
  - SS is NOT reading every post on DU, here's what they do:  MethuenProgressive   Oct-26-06 06:02 PM   #308 
  - Rule #1: Get it in writing.  SalmonChantedEvening   Oct-26-06 06:05 PM   #310 
  - they did the same to "little green footballs"  madrchsod   Oct-26-06 06:07 PM   #311 
  - I see trolls here being highly provocative. Some of this is probably  autorank   Oct-26-06 06:14 PM   #315 
  - Many of us have posted that we want this President and his  Cleita   Oct-26-06 06:17 PM   #317 
  - That is fine.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 07:47 PM   #334 
  - Thanks for letting us know.  bigwillq   Oct-26-06 06:58 PM   #322 
  - Thanks for standing up for our rights guys!  Lone_Star_Dem   Oct-26-06 07:04 PM   #323 
  - As long as you don't tell them about Operation "X" - were good to go  Mr_Spock   Oct-26-06 07:22 PM   #327 
  - I hope everyone understands the seriousness of this...  kentuck   Oct-26-06 07:24 PM   #328 
  - all the more reason to hit that "ALERT" button. it not only saves the  AZDemDist6   Oct-26-06 07:33 PM   #331 
  - I'm grateful for Mods & Admins responding to our Alerts  eleny   Oct-26-06 07:43 PM   #332 
  - Question from a foreigner  Nihil   Oct-26-06 07:54 PM   #337 
  - This is not a case of cultural differences or misunderstanding.  Skinner   Oct-26-06 08:07 PM   #343 
     - OK  Nihil   Oct-26-06 08:39 PM   #354 
     - Then that proves it was a freeper...  jannyk   Oct-27-06 02:12 AM   #402 
  - ODD -- This site does not seem like the place...  Mike Nelson   Oct-26-06 08:03 PM   #340 
  - Nobody... NOBODY will deprive me of the opportunity to see Bush do the perp walk  IanDB1   Oct-26-06 09:15 PM   #358 
  - Thank you.  StellaBlue   Oct-26-06 08:07 PM   #344 
  - Thanks for this  Synnical   Oct-26-06 08:21 PM   #349 
  - Personal Threats To The President is WRONG..However..  GOPS Worst Fear   Oct-26-06 08:22 PM   #350 
  - Randi said yesterday that the U.S. is now ranked 53rd!!!  bullwinkle428   Oct-26-06 10:35 PM   #370 
  - This title keeps popping up here in GD and it catches my eye every time  Mr_Spock   Oct-26-06 08:28 PM   #352 
  - I didn't see those threads,  seasonedblue   Oct-26-06 08:46 PM   #355 
  - I'm voting for planted. I can't believe any real DUer would be that  Raster   Oct-26-06 10:14 PM   #362 
  - is is still legal to call him a smarmy, murderous bastard?  bedazzled   Oct-26-06 10:24 PM   #364 
  - Who? n/t  Erika   Oct-26-06 11:24 PM   #382 
  - Remember that dissent is patriotic!  Hailtothechimp   Oct-26-06 10:29 PM   #366 
  - Oh, I don't think so - it's just the Secret Service doing their job  Laurab   Oct-26-06 11:48 PM   #386 
     - I think that Laurab is correct.  Skinner   Oct-27-06 08:27 AM   #422 
  - Thanks for the heads up, Skinner.  DinahMoeHum   Oct-26-06 10:34 PM   #369 
  - Wisely and well-handled as usual. And a big kudo to the Mods  blondeatlast   Oct-26-06 10:38 PM   #371 
  - Thanks Skinner  symbolman   Oct-26-06 10:51 PM   #373 
  - Just trying to figure this out...  Piscis Austrinus   Oct-26-06 11:03 PM   #375 
  - Okay, but you haven't answered the REALLY IMPORTANT question yet....  crispini   Oct-26-06 11:07 PM   #378 
  - LOL  proud patriot   Oct-26-06 11:12 PM   #379 
  - Neither was named Mike. (nt)  Skinner   Oct-27-06 08:29 AM   #423 
  - Is this like the W bots tracing the 14 year old girl for threats?  Erika   Oct-26-06 11:21 PM   #380 
  - Cheney's Junta is in a panic. Agents provocateur are an old trick  havocmom   Oct-26-06 11:22 PM   #381 
  - DU is a threat to the GOP false reality  Erika   Oct-26-06 11:31 PM   #383 
     - False Reality is their hide out. Cheney's Junta is full of criminals  havocmom   Oct-26-06 11:40 PM   #385 
  - k&r'd; no one should be diluted; these are very serious times indeed for our nation...  bridgit   Oct-26-06 11:37 PM   #384 
  - Thanks, Skinner.  Octafish   Oct-26-06 11:48 PM   #387 
  - Unless they threaten to Kill or bomb  Bitwit1234   Oct-26-06 11:52 PM   #388 
  - stay strong, friend  pitohui   Oct-26-06 11:56 PM   #391 
  - Thanks Skinner, but if they show up again  kster   Oct-27-06 01:25 AM   #397 
  - One question: Is advocating that the President be impeached,  petgoat   Oct-27-06 01:27 AM   #398 
  - That is fine. (nt)  Skinner   Oct-27-06 08:30 AM   #424 
  - Parallel to the Card Carrying ACLU meme  Kali   Oct-27-06 02:17 AM   #404 
  - It's not "moran" -- you guys keep spelling MORON wrong  AikidoSoul   Oct-27-06 03:18 PM   #445 
     - ahem....  Kali   Oct-27-06 03:39 PM   #446 
     - Hamburger  Ptah   Oct-27-06 03:44 PM   #447 
  - Thanks for filling us in, and a couple questions  Fighting Irish   Oct-27-06 02:42 AM   #406 
  - We keep a record of most -- but not all -- deleted posts. (nt)  Skinner   Oct-27-06 08:32 AM   #427 
  - Already made it into the Wikipedia article where a homeland security agent works!  RadiDem   Oct-27-06 03:16 AM   #407 
  - I'm wondering  radfringe   Oct-27-06 03:33 AM   #408 
  - I applaud Skinner for taking this stand, it just dawned on me...  AntiFascist   Oct-27-06 04:11 AM   #410 
  - Good for you, David.  6000eliot   Oct-27-06 04:21 AM   #411 
  - the secret service came to my door in august 2001...  QuestionAll   Oct-27-06 06:40 AM   #415 
  - In no way was what you wrote a threat - this is exactly the sort of situation  kath   Oct-27-06 09:47 AM   #432 
     - Kath... you're not getting it ...  AikidoSoul   Oct-27-06 03:49 PM   #449 
  - Were they Secret Service or KGWB agents?  wizstars   Oct-27-06 07:55 AM   #417 
  - DU's response to this are the reason I continue to support DU  graywarrior   Oct-27-06 08:06 AM   #418 
  - Thank you Skinner  terrya   Oct-27-06 08:08 AM   #419 
  - Thanks for telling us about this. We appreciate being informed! nt  atommom   Oct-27-06 08:31 AM   #425 
  - Yikes Skinner! We won't let them waterboard ye.  lonestarnot   Oct-27-06 09:16 AM   #431 
  - Hats off to DU  dailykoff   Oct-27-06 10:21 AM   #433 
  - welcome to amerika! where we pay people to spy on us!  NotGivingUp   Oct-27-06 10:43 AM   #434 
  - I don't have anything further to add really  shadowknows69   Oct-27-06 10:46 AM   #435 
  - If they ever ask you for my information...  VelmaD   Oct-27-06 10:46 AM   #436 
  - With respect to the current Resident  edwardlindy   Oct-27-06 11:03 AM   #438 
  - Ha , I just got booted from FR for telling them off about their post on us.  wecandoitthistime   Oct-27-06 11:12 AM   #439 
  - Yes.  Hepburn   Oct-27-06 01:39 PM   #444 
  - VERY SAD to see my tax money squandered like this.  survivor999   Oct-27-06 01:16 PM   #441 
  - What a waste of time  Alcibiades   Oct-27-06 01:26 PM   #443 
  - Thank you for posting Skinner. What are they afraid of?  shance   Oct-27-06 04:04 PM   #450 
  - Gee Whiz Skinner! I would never advocate harming anyone.  Joan_Alpern   Oct-28-06 06:46 AM   #455 
  - Thank you DU  upi402   Oct-28-06 01:00 PM   #458 
 

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